want to start my own streaming farm

Quick reality check before you dive in:

**The setup:**
- Physical phones (used Samsungs, $30-50 each) beat emulators for account survival
- Each phone needs its own residential proxy or mobile data - shared datacenter proxies get flagged instantly
- Need aged accounts (2+ months old) - fresh accounts get shadowbanned within days
- Account creation itself is a whole operation (phone verification, email warming, etc.)

**Platform comparison for 2026:**
- **Spotify:** Heavily cracked down. Detection is aggressive. Most farms see 30-50% account loss per month.
- **Apple Music:** Better payouts per stream, harder to get bulk accounts (Apple ID creation is painful)
- **Tidal/Deezer:** Lower payouts but detection is softer. Easier to scale.

**Starting small (under $500):**
1. Get 5-10 used phones
2. 10-20 aged accounts per phone
3. Residential proxy pool ($50-100/month minimum)
4. Stream rotation software (plenty of APKs floating around)
5. Test for 2 weeks before scaling

**ROI reality:**
- Expect $0.003-0.004 per stream (Spotify)
- 100 accounts x 500 streams/day = $150-200/month IF accounts survive
- Most beginners lose money in months 1-2 learning what works

Start with a small test batch. Don't buy 100 phones day one.
 
Great thread, thanks for sharing the reality check. I've been considering setting up a streaming farm on Spotify as well, but the 30-50% account loss per month is a bit concerning. Can anyone share their experience with Apple Music and the process of creating bulk Apple IDs? Is it really as painful as mentioned, and are the better payouts per stream worth the extra hassle?
 
@rolandoflores Apple is pain not because of payout but because of the ID pipeline - Apple ID creation at scale needs clean device fingerprint + legit phone verification, you can't just spin emails + proxies like Spotify

Most people choke on SMS + device trust flags, you basically need real iOS devices cycling sessions or solid antidetect that actually mimics iCloud traffic.

Payout is better per stream but account velocity is slower, so your cashflow depends on survival rate not raw RPM. If you can't control the account creation stack in-house, Apple will nuke you faster than Spotify tbh.
 
Quick reality check before you dive in:

**The setup:**
- Physical phones (used Samsungs, $30-50 each) beat emulators for account survival
- Each phone needs its own residential proxy or mobile data - shared datacenter proxies get flagged instantly
- Need aged accounts (2+ months old) - fresh accounts get shadowbanned within days
- Account creation itself is a whole operation (phone verification, email warming, etc.)

**Platform comparison for 2026:**
- **Spotify:** Heavily cracked down. Detection is aggressive. Most farms see 30-50% account loss per month.
- **Apple Music:** Better payouts per stream, harder to get bulk accounts (Apple ID creation is painful)
- **Tidal/Deezer:** Lower payouts but detection is softer. Easier to scale.

**Starting small (under $500):**
1. Get 5-10 used phones
2. 10-20 aged accounts per phone
3. Residential proxy pool ($50-100/month minimum)
4. Stream rotation software (plenty of APKs floating around)
5. Test for 2 weeks before scaling

**ROI reality:**
- Expect $0.003-0.004 per stream (Spotify)
- 100 accounts x 500 streams/day = $150-200/month IF accounts survive
- Most beginners lose money in months 1-2 learning what works

Start with a small test batch. Don't buy 100 phones day one.
wow nice data.

based on those numbers, not worth it
 
Quick reality check before you dive in:

**The setup:**
- Physical phones (used Samsungs, $30-50 each) beat emulators for account survival
- Each phone needs its own residential proxy or mobile data - shared datacenter proxies get flagged instantly
- Need aged accounts (2+ months old) - fresh accounts get shadowbanned within days
- Account creation itself is a whole operation (phone verification, email warming, etc.)

**Platform comparison for 2026:**
- **Spotify:** Heavily cracked down. Detection is aggressive. Most farms see 30-50% account loss per month.
- **Apple Music:** Better payouts per stream, harder to get bulk accounts (Apple ID creation is painful)
- **Tidal/Deezer:** Lower payouts but detection is softer. Easier to scale.

**Starting small (under $500):**
1. Get 5-10 used phones
2. 10-20 aged accounts per phone
3. Residential proxy pool ($50-100/month minimum)
4. Stream rotation software (plenty of APKs floating around)
5. Test for 2 weeks before scaling

**ROI reality:**
- Expect $0.003-0.004 per stream (Spotify)
- 100 accounts x 500 streams/day = $150-200/month IF accounts survive
- Most beginners lose money in months 1-2 learning what works

Start with a small test batch. Don't buy 100 phones day one.
Thanks, it’s really helpful. I am looking to setup my farm. Your valuable knowledge will definitely help me.
 
Build a lot of artists first and than go for other platforms like Apple and TIdal. What Trueplayer said is very helpful. Creating solid Apple Accounts is key and you will need to care of them.
I am currently sitting at around 20K from Apple alone (per month) and if you know what you do, its works like a charm :D
 
Can somone explain what I’m going to stream where can I find the music I’m going to stream, and how do I keep the stream going? this part I can’t figure out
 
Are you guys using any software or platform to allow create bulk accounts?

Its really best to create the accounts yourself! Those are really one of your two most important assets (the other beeing the artist). Dont risk them by saving 5 minutes of your time.

Can somone explain what I’m going to stream where can I find the music I’m going to stream, and how do I keep the stream going? this part I can’t figure out

So basically you dont know anything yet :D I sent you a DM.

Starting require having many phone to start with register of different/many profiles to use for streaming in long term using the app, it is an easier tasking with spamming option which certain traffics on upload records/music.

What do you man by tasking with spamming option?

We can create Apple IDs in large quantities, but it doesn't seem to be of much use.

Well, they are if you stream Apple Music. Which you should, since they pay 4 times more than Spotify!
 
@rolandoflores Apple is pain not because of payout but because of the ID pipeline - Apple ID creation at scale needs clean device fingerprint + legit phone verification, you can't just spin emails + proxies like Spotify

Most people choke on SMS + device trust flags, you basically need real iOS devices cycling sessions or solid antidetect that actually mimics iCloud traffic.

Payout is better per stream but account velocity is slower, so your cashflow depends on survival rate not raw RPM. If you can't control the account creation stack in-house, Apple will nuke you faster than Spotify tbh.
great info ty
 
great info ty

I am running 400 apple accounts since 4 yeas and none of them was/is mimicing ios systems. Indeed Apple ID heath needs some work, but you dont need to do anything on ios and if they reach a certain age they become almost invincible.
 
I am running 400 apple accounts since 4 yeas and none of them was/is mimicing ios systems. Indeed Apple ID heath needs some work, but you dont need to do anything on ios and if they reach a certain age they become almost invincible.
I don’t understand, you run Apple accounts without mimicing iOS systems?
 
Trying to run a “streaming farm” on platforms like Spotify or Apple Music is risky and against their terms, so instead of chasing bans and losses, you’re far better off building real streams by uploading music, growing playlists, and promoting content legitimately.
 
Make sure you are doing it from a country whose police dosnt care about stream farms
 
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