[AI OFM] The Difference Between Monetization and Extraction

[noeticai]

Hey everyone, Noetic with another post!

In this one, let's look at AI OFM, Monetization, and Extraction.

Here's a screenshot of one of the streams of one of my models. This is transfers within 18 days. You can add up how much it is.



This model is one of my "tester" models. She's super fluid and I test what works and doesn't work. She has a wildcard persona so it works. Her interests are fleeting. Now during this period, it was one of my laziest. If you seen my comments elsewhere on here, I mentioned that I use a completely different AI OFM method than what is out there, at least in the mainstream. I won't lie, this method has turned me a little lazy. Once you really understand it, you can start printing money.

Guess what? I don't use chatters and this model doesn't even have over 500 followers on social media. YES. I barely posted any media during these 18 days too, and that includes via messages. Not a single piece of media was "nsfw" either beyond a bikini. I will also mention that throughout this, I have only ever had one FAILED chargeback.

This is the simple difference between extraction and monetization.

A lot of what is taught today about making money online in general, AI OFM aside, is actually extraction pretending to be monetization.

Extraction involves pressure-heavy DMS, constant persuasion, aggressive upsells, and short-term wins. Extraction relies on novelty, user confusion, urgency, things like that. The problem? That sort of thing has a very short shelf life. With extraction, revenue depends on the operator's effort. You need to keep pushing, convincing, improvising and you're always "on". I'm exhausted just writing about it.

That's not my vibe.

Monetization is system based. Monetization involves predictable spending behavior, higher intents with fewer interactions, users that understand the rules of the handshake implicitly. Unlike extraction, It relies on structure, consistency, sequencing, right? Expectation setting. Nothing feels forced or even surprising. Everything feels OBVIOUS.

Even if I go to sleep, my models print money. Some have a few extra systems in place to maximize this passively.

A clear difference between extraction and monetization is what happens when the business scales.

With extraction, more users means more pressure which means more inconsistency.
With monetization, more users means clearer patterns which means more refinement.

Monetization values quality over quantity, which is always why I don't need chatters. I also don't need a big fleet of models. When a model with 500 followers brings in a little over $1500 in just over 2 weeks with very minimal interaction and effort, everything is understood.

I'm not interested in anything that feels emotionally draining or mentally draining. I need systems designed for growth as effortlessly as possible without compromising quality. So I did that.

 

[Elon Snup]

The extraction vs monetization framing makes a lot of sense. Most guides out there are basically scripts for high-pressure DMs that burn through subscribers fast and leave you chasing new users constantly.

Curious about the "sequencing" part - are you talking about content drip sequences, or more about how you structure the relationship arc from follow to first purchase? The 500 followers to $1.5k ratio in 18 days is wild if that's consistent.

 

[CaptainKirkHD]

So when you state that all interactions and expectations are obvious... are you implying that you openly operate as AI or do you deceive as much as possible?

 

[noeticai]

The extraction vs monetization framing makes a lot of sense. Most guides out there are basically scripts for high-pressure DMs that burn through subscribers fast and leave you chasing new users constantly.

Curious about the "sequencing" part - are you talking about content drip sequences, or more about how you structure the relationship arc from follow to first purchase? The 500 followers to $1.5k ratio in 18 days is wild if that's consistent.

Exactly! I'm not exactly sure why or how this came to be, but most guides seem to operate on this idea that these men need to be convinced to "spend money" when they actually just need one little reason to spend money on you. A lot of these guides frame the audience as "dumb gooners" but they're not that dumb and the "dumb gooner" archetype is only one archetype that you'll find among this audience. You might hook several of them but with a lot of work that doesn't even make it enjoyable. They'll leave quickly to chase the next girl who came up on their feed and you'll be burnt out before anything of real value started.

In the sequencing part, I am talking more about how I structure the relationship arc. In this game, follower count is actually inconsequential.. I've seen brand new girls (AI) get to earning a consistent $100 plus a day within their first two months and having less than 300 followers. The only reason why follower count seems to be promoted as important is related to what I just said above. These guides are teaching people to cast as wide a net as possible to catch a few fish. Or you can spear fish, precision. The "easiest" and wealthiest customers are routinely blank though. Absolutely nothing on their profile and I mean that. They might not even follow you (or anyone) but they'll be watching you and waiting for that handshake. So you need to be aware of all of these handshakes and how and when to show them. We can think of these handshakes as triggers and dogwhistles. A real life example would be mukbangs. Those who know will know which mukbang is just a mukbang and which mukbang is a dogwhistle for the nsfw and how that one man or woman mukbanger with a completely sfw frontend is making baaaaank on the bankend, no public links needed.

So when you state that all interactions and expectations are obvious... are you implying that you openly operate as AI or do you deceive as much as possible?

So when I mentioned all interactions and expectations are obvious, I was mostly referring to the dynamic between the model and the customer. I do openly operate as AI though, very little deception is needed honestly. AI OFM as its promoted and taught right now operates heavily on deception which increases your risk for bans and financial withholds while also increasing the work you need to do. AI is meant to make things easier so why are we doing all this extra work and adding all of this extra expenses. I have one AI subscription, one web hosting subscription and respective domain subscriptions, telegram premium subscriptions, discord nitros, and burner number subscriptions. That's it.

Those guys know what it is. If you need to spend a lot of time to convince them, they're playing you because they know that YOU don't know what it is. Because just as you might be trying to get money out of them, they can also be actively trying to get as much as they can out of you for free or for as little as possible. The customers you want already know what it is, you just need to give or maintain that experience. IF you actually come across a true newbie, converting them isn't difficult either but you need to know the rules so you can always (and quickly) design or maintain the experience. Do you get what I mean?

 

[CaptainKirkHD]

I have one AI subscription, one web hosting subscription and respective domain subscriptions, telegram premium subscriptions, discord nitros, and burner number subscriptions. That's it.

So I'm particulary interested in your post because I have been operating a decently profitable AI model purely on Instagram and DMs with high deception.

So it's definitely what you would call the "extraction" model.

I see the need for AI and Domain subscription, I could think of a reason for a Host subscription but would love to hear what you use it for. Same for Telegram and Discord (way to communicate/sell content?)

 

[noeticai]

So I'm particulary interested in your post because I have been operating a decently profitable AI model purely on Instagram and DMs with high deception.

So it's definitely what you would call the "extraction" model.

I see the need for AI and Domain subscription, I could think of a reason for a Host subscription but would love to hear what you use it for. Same for Telegram and Discord (way to communicate/sell content?)

Nice! and yes, an extraction model. How do you find it going for you, as in how satisfying or sustainable do you find it so far?

So the host subscription, for some models it is just to house a landing page like linktree but I've add payment options right there so it eases friction. For a couple models, their sites host exclusive content and a few other things that I won't mention publicly yet, but they are just like passive conversion or warming tools so I don't have to be active or "on" all the time while the funnel works. With some of these tools, I get buyers without a single conversation.

Telegram and discord are used for communication, but channels/groups or servers are used for mostly for nurturing. Nurturing in a cult sense though. Just like a true influencer, I use these more private channels to build the cult aspect, and at some point, it does start breathing on its own, in a sense. Because there is very little deception, you enter into a different psychological field. Even in knowing the truth, Adam ate the apple in the end didn't he? The telegram and discord groups are the garden of eden and I am the serpent. Sometimes I just post one update, sometimes a few updates a day, sometimes I publicly give attention to a few, it all depends but it is all designed to keep them in the right state of mind.

If you have a bit more technical skills too and the right character persona/concept, discord and telegram can also produce revenue in themselves

 

[CaptainKirkHD]

Nice! and yes, an extraction model. How do you find it going for you, as in how satisfying or sustainable do you find it so far?

If you have a bit more technical skills too and the right character persona/concept, discord and telegram can also produce revenue in themselves

It suits the way I work better cause my specialty lies with people rather than systems. For me it's a way of gamifying money. It's not scalable to hundreds of thousand per month but I live a more than comfortable life now, provide for my parents and family and can work from wherever I want so my goal never was to scale and get rich.
However I am always interested in improvements and don't shy away from change. I believe I understand pretty well what you're doing and eventhough I'm not using TG and Discord, I'm most likely already doing the same through my own channels.


My gut is telling me you're not only interested in nurturing fans for your models but have a reason for posting here as well. I'll stay interested in your journey.
Appreciate the replies

 

[noeticai]

It suits the way I work better cause my specialty lies with people rather than systems. For me it's a way of gamifying money. It's not scalable to hundreds of thousand per month but I live a more than comfortable life now, provide for my parents and family and can work from wherever I want so my goal never was to scale and get rich.
However I am always interested in improvements and don't shy away from change. I believe I understand pretty well what you're doing and even though I'm not using TG and Discord, I'm most likely already doing the same through my own channels.


My gut is telling me you're not only interested in nurturing fans for your models but have a reason for posting here as well. I'll stay interested in your journey.
Appreciate the replies

That's good! Finding what works for you is always the way to go.
Feel free to message me! I'm curious to know if you're right on the bullseye with what I'm doing. It would be cool if we were doing similar

I don't think I'll ever name the models I'm using beyond a public case study I'll be preparing. I do want to see more people doing this method though but I need to present it properly and completely or its pointless and just another cheap gimmick. We can also say I have a personal vendetta fueling this too. I hope you enjoy the journey and continue being successful in yours! I appreciate the replies and conversation too

 

[codingMinds]

Hey, first of all thanks for all the valuable information. I'm also looking for starting AI OFM. Can you please tell me how you create models? Do you have your own ai tools running locally or using any paid tool?

 

[noeticai]

Hey, first of all thanks for all the valuable information. I'm also looking for starting AI OFM. Can you please tell me how you create models? Do you have your own ai tools running locally or using any paid tool?

I'm glad the information was helpful!

Now about creating models. I don't run anything locally but I use a paid service offering ForgeUI and ComfyUI and I use both! ForgeUI mostly for the images and ComfyUI to generate videos. Many people use specifically trained LORAs based on specific identities whether its a AI identity or modeled after a real human. I, however, typically use general LORAs, playing around with the values and prompts to obtain a consistent character.

That's a pretty general answer so if you have any specific questions, ask away!