izm
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yes america's in a crisis because on unprofessional cpa companies, and rest of the world isn't in a crisis.
CPA Scammer Busted on Tape
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yes america's in a crisis because on unprofessional cpa companies, and rest of the world isn't in a crisis.
I still wonder about the legal ramifications of recording someone without their permission.......I live in Florida, so I will have to check further on it.
Why would any professional company want to work with them?
I looked on their blog and "ruck" comes across a little unpolished.....not sure if the use of "shitty" in a post that is supposed to be corporate in nature, "really seals the deal" with potential clients.
Do you really think that a big corporation that is insurance related, for example, would find their videos and blog posts professional?
If they think so.......they need to think again.
Honestly, I am not sure what they are trying to do with their videos....get some interest and drive some traffic to their videos, I guess.
But really, who would want to work with them or even care to be interviewed by them?
Unprofessional douche bags.
They are providing great lessons on how NOT to do business, IMHO.
Why would any professional company want to work with them?
I looked on their blog and "ruck" comes across a little unpolished.....not sure if the use of "shitty" in a post that is supposed to be corporate in nature, "really seals the deal" with potential clients.
Do you really think that a big corporation that is insurance related, for example, would find their videos and blog posts professional?
If they think so.......they need to think again.
Honestly, I am not sure what they are trying to do with their videos....get some interest and drive some traffic to their videos, I guess.
But really, who would want to work with them or even care to be interviewed by them?
Unprofessional douche bags.
They are providing great lessons on how NOT to do business, IMHO.
Well, well, well.......here is what I turned up in a quick search on the subject (which is the way that I thought it was).....
"Florida Recording Law
Note: This page covers information specific to Florida. For general information concerning the use of recording devices see the Recording Phone Calls, Conversations, Meetings and Hearings section of this guide.
Florida Wiretapping Law
Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. See Fla. Stat. ch. 934.03. Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.
Consult The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press's Can We Tape?: Florida for more information on Florida wiretapping law."
Perhaps they should have consulted with an attorney BEFORE they pulled these stunts.............
On the surface, it appears that they may have broken the Florida Wiretapping Laws......
1. The people on the phone calls are NOT warned that they are being recorded (as far as we can tell).
2. It is NOT a public place, in the least.
3. They did NOT receive nor ask for the applicants permission to record them, either in audio or video form.
Looks like a huge Legal problem for them.
I don't see anyway that they are NOT breaking the Florida Wiretapping Laws......
They better hope that they don't get reported to the Florida States Attorney General..........
Stupid, I say.
"Florida Recording Law
Note: This page covers information specific to Florida. For general information concerning the use of recording devices see the Recording Phone Calls, Conversations, Meetings and Hearings section of this guide.
Florida Wiretapping Law
Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. See Fla. Stat. ch. 934.03. Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.
Consult The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press's Can We Tape?: Florida for more information on Florida wiretapping law."
Perhaps they should have consulted with an attorney BEFORE they pulled these stunts.............
On the surface, it appears that they may have broken the Florida Wiretapping Laws......
1. The people on the phone calls are NOT warned that they are being recorded (as far as we can tell).
2. It is NOT a public place, in the least.
3. They did NOT receive nor ask for the applicants permission to record them, either in audio or video form.
Looks like a huge Legal problem for them.
I don't see anyway that they are NOT breaking the Florida Wiretapping Laws......
They better hope that they don't get reported to the Florida States Attorney General..........
Stupid, I say.
stackbread123
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IZM, you could ask Niche1 about that remote villages in Florida thing. But I can promise you there are some remote villages here in Mississippi.
Those guys are a##holes, and pay on time or not I'll never work with them.
Those guys are a##holes, and pay on time or not I'll never work with them.
stackbread123
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I agree with that..
The Scarlet Pimp
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After watching that video I can't help wondering...
If *I* signed up with them, would they do the same thing to me???
That's a reason right there NOT to join them!
If *I* signed up with them, would they do the same thing to me???
That's a reason right there NOT to join them!
"(4)(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b), whoever violates subsection (1) is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 934.41.
(b) If the offense is a first offense under paragraph (a) and is not for any tortious or illegal purpose or for purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage or private commercial gain, and the wire or electronic communication with respect to which the offense under paragraph (a) was committed is a radio communication that is not scrambled, encrypted, or transmitted using modulation techniques the essential parameters of which have been withheld from the public with the intention of preserving the privacy of such communication, then:
1. If the communication is not the radio portion of a cellular telephone communication, a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit, a public land mobile radio service communication, or a paging service communication, and the conduct is not that described in subparagraph (2)(h)7., the person committing the offense is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
2. If the communication is the radio portion of a cellular telephone communication, a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit, a public land mobile radio service communication, or a paging service communication, the person committing the offense is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.--s. 3, ch. 69-17; s. 1163, ch. 71-136; ss. 2, 3, ch. 74-249; s. 249, ch. 77-104; s. 1, ch. 78-376; s. 187, ch. 79-164; s. 2, ch. 80-27; s. 1, ch. 87-301; s. 2, ch. 88-184; s. 2, ch. 89-269; s. 1582, ch. 97-102; s. 18, ch. 99-168; ss. 7, 9, ch. 2000-369; s. 2, ch. 2002-72.
1Note.--Repealed by s. 1, ch. 89-86."
That does not look good for them, does it?
They had better take down all of those videos and posts........or better yet, just leave it all up, until some pissed off "denied for approval" person calls the Florida States Attorneys Office and complains...
You know, arrogance can really get you into trouble. It appears that is where these guys are going......I mean think about it.....how many people did they record, how many videos were posted, and so on.......each COULD be a separate count of wiretapping under the Florida statutes.......
And in some cases, it appears that each count could be a felony.
Again, I am not an attorney, but it sure looks like trouble on the surface. It appears that in Florida, you don't have to prove damages for the criminal aspect of the statute to hold true.....i.e., it doesn't matter if you hurt someone or not by your actions, it is a crime in and of itself to do what they have done. You simply can NOT record someone's conversation without permission. Of course they even took it one step further, they VIDEOED themselves (with full face profile and voices) committing what appears to be either felony or misdemeanors.........talk about making it easy for the prosecutor. How much easier does it get..........person records their act and then distributes it all over the internet.......man.....
The civil lawsuits could happen if those people could prove that they were somehow damaged by the actions of these ass-clowns.
Wow!
Looks like they have been "approved for felony", yeah I know it is lame, but I had to......Karma is a bitch.
(b) If the offense is a first offense under paragraph (a) and is not for any tortious or illegal purpose or for purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage or private commercial gain, and the wire or electronic communication with respect to which the offense under paragraph (a) was committed is a radio communication that is not scrambled, encrypted, or transmitted using modulation techniques the essential parameters of which have been withheld from the public with the intention of preserving the privacy of such communication, then:
1. If the communication is not the radio portion of a cellular telephone communication, a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit, a public land mobile radio service communication, or a paging service communication, and the conduct is not that described in subparagraph (2)(h)7., the person committing the offense is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
2. If the communication is the radio portion of a cellular telephone communication, a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit, a public land mobile radio service communication, or a paging service communication, the person committing the offense is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.--s. 3, ch. 69-17; s. 1163, ch. 71-136; ss. 2, 3, ch. 74-249; s. 249, ch. 77-104; s. 1, ch. 78-376; s. 187, ch. 79-164; s. 2, ch. 80-27; s. 1, ch. 87-301; s. 2, ch. 88-184; s. 2, ch. 89-269; s. 1582, ch. 97-102; s. 18, ch. 99-168; ss. 7, 9, ch. 2000-369; s. 2, ch. 2002-72.
1Note.--Repealed by s. 1, ch. 89-86."
That does not look good for them, does it?
They had better take down all of those videos and posts........or better yet, just leave it all up, until some pissed off "denied for approval" person calls the Florida States Attorneys Office and complains...
You know, arrogance can really get you into trouble. It appears that is where these guys are going......I mean think about it.....how many people did they record, how many videos were posted, and so on.......each COULD be a separate count of wiretapping under the Florida statutes.......
And in some cases, it appears that each count could be a felony.
Again, I am not an attorney, but it sure looks like trouble on the surface. It appears that in Florida, you don't have to prove damages for the criminal aspect of the statute to hold true.....i.e., it doesn't matter if you hurt someone or not by your actions, it is a crime in and of itself to do what they have done. You simply can NOT record someone's conversation without permission. Of course they even took it one step further, they VIDEOED themselves (with full face profile and voices) committing what appears to be either felony or misdemeanors.........talk about making it easy for the prosecutor. How much easier does it get..........person records their act and then distributes it all over the internet.......man.....
The civil lawsuits could happen if those people could prove that they were somehow damaged by the actions of these ass-clowns.
Wow!
Looks like they have been "approved for felony", yeah I know it is lame, but I had to......Karma is a bitch.
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BENNY8877
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Really who hasn't lied about their experience to get a job? Sure, the first guy had no idea what he was talking about but they should have just denied him on the spot.
Imagine going in for a go to McDonalds for an interview and the manager asks you a series of questions and then after realizing that you aren't qualified dunks your head in the toilet and slaps a "kick me" sign on your back. Then as you walk out to the dining area yells, "Hey everybody looks at this idiot!"
A little over dramatic I know but that's me.
It was funny though.
Imagine going in for a go to McDonalds for an interview and the manager asks you a series of questions and then after realizing that you aren't qualified dunks your head in the toilet and slaps a "kick me" sign on your back. Then as you walk out to the dining area yells, "Hey everybody looks at this idiot!"
A little over dramatic I know but that's me.
It was funny though.
izm
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you need qualifications for mcdonalds?
The Scarlet Pimp
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mikie46
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I signed up months ago and was not treated this way however what i will tell you is that after seeing these videos they can kiss my business goodbye. Lets have a bit of class here people. Because what i just witnessed are a bunch of losers with absolutely no class to speak off.
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