paypal shakedown on vccs!
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apekillape
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- Dec 13, 2007
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My "real" account was opened with a vcc, still no problems yet. Of course, having said that out loud will probably cause a super-jinx, but whatever.
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This REALLY PISSES me OFF. How has this happened so seamlessly on the internet?
First of all you go and create the means to SUPPLY the majority of the products on the internet, then you go and buy the means to deliver the FINANCE.
There is NO WAY IN HELL this would have happened in a country with corporate governance.
First of all you go and create the means to SUPPLY the majority of the products on the internet, then you go and buy the means to deliver the FINANCE.
There is NO WAY IN HELL this would have happened in a country with corporate governance.
ya...i know...sounds like friggin autocracy!!
guess its coz paypal has no serious competition really....
scubaslick
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- Aug 23, 2007
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m'kay....
So you're angry that they're so good at corporate capitalism that they can create a monopoly, yet advocating corporate governance.
Do you mean by corporate governance "stronger government intervention in the actions of corporations to prevent such monopolies?"
So you're angry that they're so good at corporate capitalism that they can create a monopoly, yet advocating corporate governance.
Do you mean by corporate governance "stronger government intervention in the actions of corporations to prevent such monopolies?"
Uptownbulker
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- Oct 21, 2007
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Guys....................................
If you have a PayPal account, NEVER use the same bank account, email address, CC, physical address, mailing address or phone number on a second account!
The PP software will link your accounts in only seconds.
If you have PP acounts A and B, NEVER use both accounts to send or receive money from person C. Again PP willlink your accounts.
PP has a lot of trouble linking by IP, especially through something like AOL as AOL ex basically one big proxy.
If you have a static IP things get more difficult as you MUST use proxies but if your PP account is based, say in Atlanta, Ga and you go into it through a proxy based in Saskatchewan, Canada, you can have a problem.
Never use any single bit of info more than once and only on one account.
Completely new info is required for subsequent accounts and always be ready to re-confirm your accounts with a new CC, be that CC a VCC or a "hard" card.
If you have a PayPal account, NEVER use the same bank account, email address, CC, physical address, mailing address or phone number on a second account!
The PP software will link your accounts in only seconds.
If you have PP acounts A and B, NEVER use both accounts to send or receive money from person C. Again PP willlink your accounts.
PP has a lot of trouble linking by IP, especially through something like AOL as AOL ex basically one big proxy.
If you have a static IP things get more difficult as you MUST use proxies but if your PP account is based, say in Atlanta, Ga and you go into it through a proxy based in Saskatchewan, Canada, you can have a problem.
Never use any single bit of info more than once and only on one account.
Completely new info is required for subsequent accounts and always be ready to re-confirm your accounts with a new CC, be that CC a VCC or a "hard" card.
da buck
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- Feb 24, 2008
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Is using a VCC against their TOS? Maybe you can call them and tell them the card you used is expired and you don't have it anymore? Every once in a while you can get a person that is somewhat sympathetic. Don't try using the online support though because it is worthless.
Uptownbulker
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- Oct 21, 2007
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Pardon my ignorance here, people but I got a thing going on in my head and maybe you can help me out.
Everyone wants a PayPal account.
Everyone knows what PayPal is; a punitive money transfer service which sets its own rules and can, under its Terms Of Sevice, do whatever the Hell it wants, when it wants and to whom it wants!
Did you know that if you get a few chargebacks and PP gets nervous, PayPal can and will ACH your bank account or hit your card for up to THREE TIMES the total amounts of your chargebacks?
Did you know that about 90% of what Blackhatters do can easily be construed to be in violation of the TOS of PayPal and as the resut PP can shut down you account and pretty much hold your money until YOU satisfy them that there is nothing shady gong on?
EVERYONE wants a PayPal account and then EVERYONE screams and yells when PP fucks them!
There is Moneybookers, AlertPay, Google Checkout; there are dozens of other payment services out there, so why is everyone in LOVE with PayPal when they know the risks of dealing with them?
Fuck a bunch of PayPal!
Use something else and if your customer doesn't like it, you then know that in all likelihood your customer wants to use PayPal so that the customer can FUCK you later on down the line!
Fuck a bunch of PayPal!
Everyone wants a PayPal account.
Everyone knows what PayPal is; a punitive money transfer service which sets its own rules and can, under its Terms Of Sevice, do whatever the Hell it wants, when it wants and to whom it wants!
Did you know that if you get a few chargebacks and PP gets nervous, PayPal can and will ACH your bank account or hit your card for up to THREE TIMES the total amounts of your chargebacks?
Did you know that about 90% of what Blackhatters do can easily be construed to be in violation of the TOS of PayPal and as the resut PP can shut down you account and pretty much hold your money until YOU satisfy them that there is nothing shady gong on?
EVERYONE wants a PayPal account and then EVERYONE screams and yells when PP fucks them!
There is Moneybookers, AlertPay, Google Checkout; there are dozens of other payment services out there, so why is everyone in LOVE with PayPal when they know the risks of dealing with them?
Fuck a bunch of PayPal!
Use something else and if your customer doesn't like it, you then know that in all likelihood your customer wants to use PayPal so that the customer can FUCK you later on down the line!
Fuck a bunch of PayPal!
themagician
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adambrumwell
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- Nov 18, 2008
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Paypal really sucks. I got limited with lot of money i had 0 customer complaints against me. i provided a service but big brother paypal took all my money home
