curious duck
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- Jul 14, 2025
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Recently I started being a bit obsessed about ad fraud. How a supposedly 100 billion dollar fraud is barely talked about and known.
Anyway, I keep reading how they use selenium base and residential proxy to cover their track. But something makes 0 sense to me. Most of web traffic is web yet no guide about how to do ad fraud mentions how to emulate mobile.
Once, to run a simple like WhatsApp I got instantly detected and rejected because I used an emulator (BlueStacks). So I don't believe using emulator would work. Even if website can't access every thing they can extremely easily access plugins, screen resolution and others and probably determine emulators (if they keep having Sam fingerprint etc.).
So either fraudster are very advanced (good emulator quality/VM/real devices) and very strictly respect the number of models of each device, right number of 4g vs wifi etc. Which I find incredibly hard to believe as it would be costly buying each device physically or fully emulate perfectly everything.
Either ad networks do not check for that ? I mean obviously u can modify user agents but it's incredibly easy to detect (u have to spoof everything to be coherent such as font, width/height, device characteristics etc.) and I found literally 0 project to turn Selenium into something spoofing perfectly Android or iOS.
So I'm extremely lost here.
And I won't even talk about Spotify. This makes 0 sense to me. Most people use phones so you'd have to spoof phones to be realistic. Spotify literally OWN their own app so they can so easily detect fakes. So either u buy a massive farm of real devices with 4g proxy (very costly) either u don't do it. Don't tell me 100% computer traffic doesn't get detected lol
Anyway, I keep reading how they use selenium base and residential proxy to cover their track. But something makes 0 sense to me. Most of web traffic is web yet no guide about how to do ad fraud mentions how to emulate mobile.
Once, to run a simple like WhatsApp I got instantly detected and rejected because I used an emulator (BlueStacks). So I don't believe using emulator would work. Even if website can't access every thing they can extremely easily access plugins, screen resolution and others and probably determine emulators (if they keep having Sam fingerprint etc.).
So either fraudster are very advanced (good emulator quality/VM/real devices) and very strictly respect the number of models of each device, right number of 4g vs wifi etc. Which I find incredibly hard to believe as it would be costly buying each device physically or fully emulate perfectly everything.
Either ad networks do not check for that ? I mean obviously u can modify user agents but it's incredibly easy to detect (u have to spoof everything to be coherent such as font, width/height, device characteristics etc.) and I found literally 0 project to turn Selenium into something spoofing perfectly Android or iOS.
So I'm extremely lost here.
And I won't even talk about Spotify. This makes 0 sense to me. Most people use phones so you'd have to spoof phones to be realistic. Spotify literally OWN their own app so they can so easily detect fakes. So either u buy a massive farm of real devices with 4g proxy (very costly) either u don't do it. Don't tell me 100% computer traffic doesn't get detected lol