- Jul 13, 2024
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So, I was taking a look at BHW Marketplace and we have some new threads, especifically about AWS accounts.
Those are high ticket products, they can cost from $800 up to $13k. I would considere them as ''high-risk'' products, because they can be very profitable for potential scammers, all you need to do is upgrade your BHW account ($147 per year) and you are entitled to start selling those high ticket products (as long as you have 1 to delivery to mods).
Those new threads are already receiving attention and unfortunately, for bad reasons. There are already some members complaining about delays and scams. More than one member. Positive reviews are often from members with locked accounts (you can't see their past posts). It's suspicious and concerning, you don't see this kind of reaction in the first page of most BSTs on BHW.
But for now, they are not scammers, I'm not accusing anyone. Maybe they are victims of competitors with shady practices, trying to create fake reviews.
But this kind of item should definitely have additional measures for security reasons, more than just a one-time verification to see if they really have accounts to delivery. Not only AWS accounts, actually any kind of service or item above $1k.
Some examples:
1) Membership Cost: This was already discussed and suggested before, I really believe that the Jr VIP subscription should be compatible with the cost of your services. $147 as a fixed amount is not so fair. If your services cost no more than $100, like an ebook, SMS panel with cheap likes, reddit accounts without karma, etc - you could even pay less than $147. But for those products, they should pay like $1000 per year or even more. Those are very expensive items, it doesn't make sense to be allowed to sell a website that costs $30k, an account that costs $13k or a domain that costs $20k and only pay a $147 fee. It's too much profitable for potential scammers, not in vain they repeatdely create new accounts to keep scamming people with those expensive products.
2) Preventive locks: those sensible services thread should be locked more easily. There are already some potential victims. There are already some complains. Why wait for a proved scam? Lock their thread and only unlock it after an investigation. No need for a dispute resolution or bans, just a conversation or private with the accuser (potential victim) to see if it's a fake review or if this is really a victim of a scam with evidences. If it's a competitor trying to abuse the system, give warnings to those accounts posting fake reviews and delete their comments. Conduct further investigation to punish the competitor with multi-accounts gaming the forum.
3) Warning: put a warning at the top of those BSTs with items that cost thousands of dollars. A text indicating ''This is a high-ticket item, please, procedure with caution, prioritize conversation only on BHW and use an Escrow system.''
4) Telegram: ok, for cheap items sellers should be allowed to still use Telegram, because there are many buyers who are crazily impatient and prefer to use that shit, I don't know why, but okay. But for expensive items? Above $1k? Forbid Telegram. 100% conversation only on BHW. Sellers are not allowed to move the conversation to any other social media, it doesn't matter if it's Fiverr chat, Telegram, Whatsapp, Xvideos comments, whatever, only allow sellers to use BHW DM system.
5) High-Risk Policy: I've already suggested this several times. BHW should create its own High-Risk policy, like PayPal and Stripe have. If a BST has too many problems, several disputes (like that Donald Duck Agency that was recently banned), if there are too many bad reviews, if there are too many complains, simply downgrade the member. You don't need to ban him. Just downgrade and refund him, lock the thread and send a message stating (in fancy words): sorry bro, but your service sucks, your business model is not compatible with BHW rules, we don't support this kind of high-risk business, it's too much risk, there are many complains, many problems, take your money back, you can still be a member here, but go sell somewhere else, you are too troublesome. That's what payment processors do all the time, actually they just kick our asses, but BHW can just downgrade and refund the problematic member (and this case applies not only for expensive, but also cheap products - anyone who is amateur enough to saturate our mods with so many problems).
The final suggestion, would be obviously force everybody who is selling expensive items to use an Escrow system. But this was already suggested several times, waiting for BHW Marketplace 2.0, until there, those other suggested recommendations can be useful to prevent scammers, put some valid security measures to avoid issues, because we are talking about thousands of dollars, in some countries this can take years to be saved and a victim of this kind of scam could really got fucked
Those are high ticket products, they can cost from $800 up to $13k. I would considere them as ''high-risk'' products, because they can be very profitable for potential scammers, all you need to do is upgrade your BHW account ($147 per year) and you are entitled to start selling those high ticket products (as long as you have 1 to delivery to mods).
Those new threads are already receiving attention and unfortunately, for bad reasons. There are already some members complaining about delays and scams. More than one member. Positive reviews are often from members with locked accounts (you can't see their past posts). It's suspicious and concerning, you don't see this kind of reaction in the first page of most BSTs on BHW.
But for now, they are not scammers, I'm not accusing anyone. Maybe they are victims of competitors with shady practices, trying to create fake reviews.
But this kind of item should definitely have additional measures for security reasons, more than just a one-time verification to see if they really have accounts to delivery. Not only AWS accounts, actually any kind of service or item above $1k.
Some examples:
1) Membership Cost: This was already discussed and suggested before, I really believe that the Jr VIP subscription should be compatible with the cost of your services. $147 as a fixed amount is not so fair. If your services cost no more than $100, like an ebook, SMS panel with cheap likes, reddit accounts without karma, etc - you could even pay less than $147. But for those products, they should pay like $1000 per year or even more. Those are very expensive items, it doesn't make sense to be allowed to sell a website that costs $30k, an account that costs $13k or a domain that costs $20k and only pay a $147 fee. It's too much profitable for potential scammers, not in vain they repeatdely create new accounts to keep scamming people with those expensive products.
2) Preventive locks: those sensible services thread should be locked more easily. There are already some potential victims. There are already some complains. Why wait for a proved scam? Lock their thread and only unlock it after an investigation. No need for a dispute resolution or bans, just a conversation or private with the accuser (potential victim) to see if it's a fake review or if this is really a victim of a scam with evidences. If it's a competitor trying to abuse the system, give warnings to those accounts posting fake reviews and delete their comments. Conduct further investigation to punish the competitor with multi-accounts gaming the forum.
3) Warning: put a warning at the top of those BSTs with items that cost thousands of dollars. A text indicating ''This is a high-ticket item, please, procedure with caution, prioritize conversation only on BHW and use an Escrow system.''
4) Telegram: ok, for cheap items sellers should be allowed to still use Telegram, because there are many buyers who are crazily impatient and prefer to use that shit, I don't know why, but okay. But for expensive items? Above $1k? Forbid Telegram. 100% conversation only on BHW. Sellers are not allowed to move the conversation to any other social media, it doesn't matter if it's Fiverr chat, Telegram, Whatsapp, Xvideos comments, whatever, only allow sellers to use BHW DM system.
5) High-Risk Policy: I've already suggested this several times. BHW should create its own High-Risk policy, like PayPal and Stripe have. If a BST has too many problems, several disputes (like that Donald Duck Agency that was recently banned), if there are too many bad reviews, if there are too many complains, simply downgrade the member. You don't need to ban him. Just downgrade and refund him, lock the thread and send a message stating (in fancy words): sorry bro, but your service sucks, your business model is not compatible with BHW rules, we don't support this kind of high-risk business, it's too much risk, there are many complains, many problems, take your money back, you can still be a member here, but go sell somewhere else, you are too troublesome. That's what payment processors do all the time, actually they just kick our asses, but BHW can just downgrade and refund the problematic member (and this case applies not only for expensive, but also cheap products - anyone who is amateur enough to saturate our mods with so many problems).
The final suggestion, would be obviously force everybody who is selling expensive items to use an Escrow system. But this was already suggested several times, waiting for BHW Marketplace 2.0, until there, those other suggested recommendations can be useful to prevent scammers, put some valid security measures to avoid issues, because we are talking about thousands of dollars, in some countries this can take years to be saved and a victim of this kind of scam could really got fucked
