How to rank on Google forbidden niche?

[jyciap11]

Hey guys, since last year I noticed that some niche (for example hack for mobile game niche) are banned after some days on Google. I tried with 10 websites in 3-4 months, every time I got posts indexed, traffic start and suddenly disappear from serp and started the deindexing.
I tried to post with/without AI, more or less posts daily, tried without GSC, with some signals or without, the end is the same, de-rank and de-index.

Any tips? This kind of websites rank good in the past.

I tried with parasite and works fine, so the problem is only with the new domains and not for the content, I think.

 

[tazarbm]

it sounds like one of those google efforts to get rid of everyone except for the big guns.

I'm curious, do you see any other small / new / non-corporate type of website in top 10 for this type of keyword? Because if you don't, I think there's nothing you can do as a lone / small entity to rank for those. But if there are sites like yours it's probably a matter of authority and / or other SEO tricks, in which case using quality expired / non-dropped domains with decent authority (30+ DR) might work (of course, also don't forget the usual garbage that google loves: "quality" content, structured data, etc.)

 

[jyciap11]

it sounds like one of those google efforts to get rid of everyone except for the big guns.

I'm curious, do you see any other small / new / non-corporate type of website in top 10 for this type of keyword? Because if you don't, I think there's nothing you can do as a lone / small entity to rank for those. But if there are sites like yours it's probably a matter of authority and / or other SEO tricks, in which case using quality expired / non-dropped domains with decent authority (30+ DR) might work (of course, also don't forget the usual garbage that google loves: "quality" content, structured data, etc.)

Yes, my websites BEFORE september 2024 are still ranked (with low DR, one websites mine has 0 DR lol), AFTER september 2024 all my NEW websites are gone after few days. Infact, in serps, actually you can see only websites before september 2024 for hack game niche.

 

[tazarbm]

Yes, my websites BEFORE september 2024 are still ranked (with low DR, one websites mine has 0 DR lol), AFTER september 2024 all my NEW websites are gone after few days. Infact, in serps, actually you can see only websites before september 2024 for hack game niche.

hmm, that's interesting....

Are your sites hosted on the same IP / server? Maybe google knows that you own all of these sites (or, rather, domain names) and they want to keep only 1 website per IP / server / person, per niche, in their index (just speculating here, but with google this might very well be true, you never know until you test it)...

Try ranking a website whose domain is purchased elsewhere than where you would normally buy it, and the website is hosted somewhere else too. And, obviously, register the domain name with totally different credentials too (different geolocation / address, different payment method, different name and phone number, different email address, etc), I am curious to know the outcome of this as it seems like google knows it's you churning up all of those websites and they're not OK with it...

 

[jyciap11]

hmm, that's interesting....

Are your sites hosted on the same IP / server? Maybe google knows that you own all of these sites (or, rather, domain names) and they want to keep only 1 website per IP / server / person, per niche, in their index (just speculating here, but with google this might very well be true, you never know until you test it)...

Try ranking a website whose domain is purchased elsewhere than where you would normally buy it, and the website is hosted somewhere else too. And, obviously, register the domain name with totally different credentials too (different geolocation / address, different payment method, different name and phone number, different email address, etc), I am curious to know the outcome of this as it seems like google knows it's you churning up all of those websites and they're not OK with it...

I've already tried. I bought domains from different providers and hosted them individually on dedicated hosting with clean IPs. Yet I was always hit. I tried adding cloudflare to mask the dns but I was hit anyway.

 

[tazarbm]

I've already tried. I bought domains from different providers and hosted them individually on dedicated hosting with clean IPs. Yet I was always hit. I tried adding cloudflare to mask the dns but I was hit anyway.

yes, but did you use different name, address, and payment method (credit card / Paypal ID, for example)? Because, you know, google knows pretty much everything these days

 

[jyciap11]

yes, but did you use different name, address, and payment method (credit card / Paypal ID, for example)? Because, you know, google knows pretty much everything these days

Nope, I have whois in every account (namecheap, namesilo, spaceship etc.) and I used virtual cards every time.

 

[tazarbm]

Nope, I have whois in every account (namecheap, namesilo, spaceship etc.) and I used virtual cards every time.

whois blocks people from knowing you, it doesn't block google. All of these big companies (and Spaceship, therefore Namecheap since Spaceship is their branch) all share YOUR data with each other. Data (information) is the new currency, and you can bet your ass that the mobsters up top always have plenty of it, about everyone...

Anyway, I don't know what else it could be if that's not it. Did you check whether any new domains (as in, registered this year) rank in top 10 for those keywords?

Because you said that parasites do rank for those keywords, so it sounds like google are either having a YOU (as in, you, personally) problem, or a fresh domains in this niche problem. I can't see what else could be the problem...

 

[jyciap11]

whois blocks people from knowing you, it doesn't block google. All of these big companies (and Spaceship, therefore Namecheap since Spaceship is their branch) all share YOUR data with each other. Data (information) is the new currency, and you can bet your ass that the mobsters up top always have plenty of it, about everyone...

Anyway, I don't know what else it could be if that's not it. Did you check whether any new domains (as in, registered this year) rank in top 10 for those keywords?

Because you said that parasites do rank for those keywords, so it sounds like google are either having a YOU (as in, you, personally) problem, or a fresh domains in this niche problem. I can't see what else could be the problem...

No, there are no new domains unfortunately, this is what makes me think that Google is penalizing new sites in this niche. I also tried to make domains under wordpress.com (for example mydomain.wordpress.com) and Google indexed 2 posts (instead of 6). The other 4 was deindexed. I think that Google has released an update that targets these "borderline" websites, but still leaves the "big ones" alone. As I was telling you, I'm doing parasite and the articles have been quietly on the front page for 1 month without problems and without being removed. With new sites (recently purchased domains) the sites last 1 week at most.

 

[tazarbm]

but still leaves the "big ones" alone.

but you said that your 0 DR sites from before Sept 2024 are fine, so it can't be the big ones only...

With new sites (recently purchased domains) the sites last 1 week at most.

totally possible (and I did hear some members say that google are making it hard for new domains to rank, they're probably running out of space )

 

[drakan91]

For some time now, Google has been killing off new sites with hacks and content lockers within a few days. Currently, the most effective method is using Google Ads combined with cloaking. Sometimes you can churn & burn parasites

 

[jyciap11]

For some time now, Google has been killing off new sites with hacks and content lockers within a few days. Currently, the most effective method is using Google Ads combined with cloaking. Sometimes you can churn & burn parasites

I tried to create website without any button or outbound links. I think the problem is the content itself.

 

[laco575]

Use Parasite SEO, aged domains with history, innocent cover sites + deep internal linking.

 

[MajestySEO]

Yeah, Google has gotten way stricter after Sep 2024. A lot of new sites in "forbidden" niches get deindexed fast, even if you use different domains, hosting, or cloaking. What still seems to work is using old, aged sites, they are much more stable. Google might also be tracking your identity or payment info, so using separate accounts and clean setups could help. In some cases, it’s even smarter to use social media to drive traffic alongside your SEO efforts.