"Acquire" SMTPs or create my own.

[soulmaster01]

Hello. My first post on this forum - may it be the start of something great.

I've been recently doing research about 'cold emailing' , for obvious purposes. I have a skillset , that I will use well , if I get to manage landing mails in inbox and not spam.

After trying out different approaches , there are different paths that I can go down , but I'm not sure which is the most convenient.

1. Buy Gmail accounts , proxies and use them. downside - I don't have a source of App password activated accounts (since I only know how send using Gmail smtp) and I'm not sure if it's possible to send with regular login/pass combos.
2. Buy SMTPs , most likely cracked or pre-created , either way - seems like expensive choice + high risk ( bad reputation of domain and ip).
3. 'acquire' my own SMTPs - Not sure if my regular approaches will work , will have to do a lot of research. Clearly the most effective - no worries about reputation , warming up , etc.
4. Create my own SMTPs - Purchasing multiple cheap .com domains , setting up multiple Postfix/other smtp containers and using proxies , OR purchasing multiple VPS and using them.

What do you guys think is the most effective approach these days? I'm kind of low on funds , so I definitely prioritize spending more time , than resource.
Thanks.

 

[social_newbie]

By 3 y mean hack online smtp server?
I may suggest try 1 and 4, for gmail you can try web mailer, also there is other esps like hotmail/gmx which support smtp
4 in long term is most cheap one, but need warm up etc

You also need good list

 

[TheDealMaker]

There are cheaper ways to acquire SMTP servers. If you are good at warming up, then I say you go for it instead.

 

[soulmaster01]

By 3 y mean hack online smtp server?
I may suggest try 1 and 4, for gmail you can try web mailer, also there is other esps like hotmail/gmx which support smtp
4 in long term is most cheap one, but need warm up etc

You also need good list

1. Yes , I mean that.
2. Gmail accounts to which I have access to (which are fairly cheap) don't have app password activated. They are just registered. To use SMTP , you need app password. I would have to find a way to automate activating the app passwords. However , I have access to other mailing services , like outlook. For those accounts , SMTPs are already activated , they just come in format which I was not able to use. If you are interested , or just curious about the source , message me , I will provide you with some test accounts. ESP is not really a problem , I can even write my own script to automate sending however I want.
3.I've never warmed up SMTP ,definitely will have to do testing.

P.S. by 'good list' do you mean leads? I'm planning on scraping my own leads.

 

[soulmaster01]

There are cheaper ways to acquire SMTP servers. If you are good at warming up, then I say you go for it instead.

Is warming up really that difficult? I imagine it as just sending multiple mails to multiple dummy accounts , then replying to mails , etc. with those accounts to simulate interaction and building up reputation for domain.
Could you specify , what ways do you recommend? I've cracked some accounts using dorks and sqli , but for now , I have no idea how I would approach this matter. I saw some posts about 'Laravel' vulnerability , and I understand this approach , but it's been mostly patched , and finding a new vulnerability like this might not be possible for me , and definitely nobody will share a new method with me

 

[social_newbie]

Is warming up really that difficult? I imagine it as just sending multiple mails to multiple dummy accounts , then replying to mails , etc. with those accounts to simulate interaction and building up reputation for domain.
Could you specify , what ways do you recommend? I've cracked some accounts using dorks and sqli , but for now , I have no idea how I would approach this matter. I saw some posts about 'Laravel' vulnerability , and I understand this approach , but it's been mostly patched , and finding a new vulnerability like this might not be possible for me , and definitely nobody will share a new method with me

If you want to inbox GMail, you send mail to your GMail, it will go to spam, then you move it to inbox, or maybe reply, thus tell GMail trust this smtp
Similar thing for hotmail/yahoo etc I guess
There are also online warmup service but for me it's too expensive, by expensive I mean the return from cold mail may not cover

I am try to building warmup tool for gmail now, I see you want to do similar thing so maybe we can exchange some ideas

 

[soulmaster01]

If you want to inbox GMail, you send mail to your GMail, it will go to spam, then you move it to inbox, or maybe reply, thus tell GMail trust this smtp
Similar thing for hotmail/yahoo etc I guess
There are also online warmup service but for me it's too expensive, by expensive I mean the return from cold mail may not cover

I am try to building warmup tool for gmail now, I see you want to do similar thing so maybe we can exchange some ideas

What I would do , (with my knowledge atleast) is use GMAIL API. each target account (which receives spam messages) will need to have this activated. You can control everything inbox related using GMAIL API. You can check invox messages , etc. Then it’s just a matter of a simple for loop to check through spam messages and mark them all as non-spam. GMAIL API is free to use , activation is a little headache , but you will sort it out , and it’s definitely better than using automated scripts , selenium , etc.

P.S - I went down the account buying path , I found mail accounts for ≈0.02 usd each , and their messages went to invox on the first tries . I’m building my own tool to scrape free proxies , check their validity and try to send messages through them , so gmail doesn’t block my ip. Would love to hear about your setup too and will be glad to help with warmup tool.

 

[social_newbie]

What I would do , (with my knowledge atleast) is use GMAIL API. each target account (which receives spam messages) will need to have this activated. You can control everything inbox related using GMAIL API. You can check invox messages , etc. Then it’s just a matter of a simple for loop to check through spam messages and mark them all as non-spam. GMAIL API is free to use , activation is a little headache , but you will sort it out , and it’s definitely better than using automated scripts , selenium , etc.

P.S - I went down the account buying path , I found mail accounts for ≈0.02 usd each , and their messages went to invox on the first tries . I’m building my own tool to scrape free proxies , check their validity and try to send messages through them , so gmail doesn’t block my ip. Would love to hear about your setup too and will be glad to help with warmup tool.

I found mail accounts for ≈0.02 usd each----------you mean gmail accs which api enabled? sounds good

 

[soulmaster01]

I found mail accounts for ≈0.02 usd each----------you mean gmail accs which api enabled? sounds good

no , another mail provider , that has enabled SMTP through their server , using this account mailassword , and the messages go through Gmail , Yahoo , etc.

 

[jennaoff]

Hello. My first post on this forum - may it be the start of something great.

I've been recently doing research about 'cold emailing' , for obvious purposes. I have a skillset , that I will use well , if I get to manage landing mails in inbox and not spam.

After trying out different approaches , there are different paths that I can go down , but I'm not sure which is the most convenient.

1. Buy Gmail accounts , proxies and use them. downside - I don't have a source of App password activated accounts (since I only know how send using Gmail smtp) and I'm not sure if it's possible to send with regular login/pass combos.
2. Buy SMTPs , most likely cracked or pre-created , either way - seems like expensive choice + high risk ( bad reputation of domain and ip).
3. 'acquire' my own SMTPs - Not sure if my regular approaches will work , will have to do a lot of research. Clearly the most effective - no worries about reputation , warming up , etc.
4. Create my own SMTPs - Purchasing multiple cheap .com domains , setting up multiple Postfix/other smtp containers and using proxies , OR purchasing multiple VPS and using them.

What do you guys think is the most effective approach these days? I'm kind of low on funds , so I definitely prioritize spending more time , than resource.
Thanks.

Did you find an effective way to land inbox?