the question in my mind i have for a several month is: "is only linkbuilding the secret to increase the serps?" SEO agencys tell always that they are the best and i must spend several thousand dollars a month for them. So how many percent do you think dependents on linkbuilding? Is a seo agency worthless?
Is the secret all about linkbuilding?
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RoscoeT
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There are several factors to consider. Lot's of time webmasters are busy chasing SERPs and not optimizing their pages for converting the traffic they already get.
Thousands of garbage (ie. non targeted) visitors will give you very little money. Especially if the site is not optimized for a conversion.
So my advice would be to make sure your site content is relevant, unique, useful and SEO friendly. Then start to link build. Chances are if all that is on your site you'll get linked to naturally so all you need to do is help that momentum.
Back links are critical but ever since the google bomb days they are weighted differently. Quality Useful Content is still the most important.
It all starts with niche research. When I was a noob I got into a niche where the #1 SERP site had almost 1 million back links and tonnes of great original content. Needless to say I barely made enough to cover my domain name registration cost.
I bought a good used car with my next site. And a trip to Mexico with an other.
Keep at it and use common sense. Think in terms of, "Is this being useful or is it trying to game the system?"
Thousands of garbage (ie. non targeted) visitors will give you very little money. Especially if the site is not optimized for a conversion.
So my advice would be to make sure your site content is relevant, unique, useful and SEO friendly. Then start to link build. Chances are if all that is on your site you'll get linked to naturally so all you need to do is help that momentum.
Back links are critical but ever since the google bomb days they are weighted differently. Quality Useful Content is still the most important.
It all starts with niche research. When I was a noob I got into a niche where the #1 SERP site had almost 1 million back links and tonnes of great original content. Needless to say I barely made enough to cover my domain name registration cost.
I bought a good used car with my next site. And a trip to Mexico with an other.
Keep at it and use common sense. Think in terms of, "Is this being useful or is it trying to game the system?"
RoscoeT
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I'm not so sure that BH link building can really hurt you. I know that google just about ignores any type of spamish type linking so it's of little value in the long run.
If BH linking techniques would get you a penalty then it would be too easy to sabotage the competition. It would be like a reverse google bomb.
Your site would rank higher due to others getting G-shafted.
Pretty sure any crap links to your site would be ignored.
However, that being said, in a manual review of your site, if it was a borderline judgment call I am sure that if the G-men see that 99.9% of your inbound links are BH spam garbage then you're toast.
Best advice is to keep your Black hat and white hat activities separate.
Talsin
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It depends on the age of your site and a few other things.
You can definately fuck up a new site with bad link building. If your site is an authority site not so much.
Like we couldn't kill Amazon for example, nor could you kill any site that is several years old purely through some random link spam.
If your site is less than a year old though its very easy to get penalized and pushed well off the serps.
You can definately fuck up a new site with bad link building. If your site is an authority site not so much.
Like we couldn't kill Amazon for example, nor could you kill any site that is several years old purely through some random link spam.
If your site is less than a year old though its very easy to get penalized and pushed well off the serps.
my site is older than 10 years.. pagerank is only 3, so i started with linkbuilding. Some PR7, some 6,5,4.. But only some links. The onpage is very optimized also urls and so on.
We have a lot of traffic and we also convert it
is it also possible that google penalize us for the backlinks that we bought from a webmaster?
We have a lot of traffic and we also convert it
is it also possible that google penalize us for the backlinks that we bought from a webmaster?
lincolnave
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- Dec 5, 2008
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The only real way to find the answer is to do the work and find out what happens. Setup two sites in the same niche, build the links on one and let the other just sit there. Then you will understand things much better than anybody else, trying to convince you.
IMHO, that is what it took for me.
IMHO, that is what it took for me.
Abstroose
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Agree with that. ^
I pretty much concentrate 95% of my efforts on building backlinks, and it works pretty damn well.