Do we not put much faith in cryptocurrencies?

The popularity of cryptocurrencies lies in the fact that blockchain eliminates the need for banks as intermediaries for money transfers.

Can banks be trusted? Ask the millions of Americans who lost their pensions when their investments in stocks burned up during the 2008 financial crisis. That collapse? All thanks to the banks.

Can central banks be trusted? Again, ask Americans who are paying 7% mortgage rates today. Central banks print money as they like. With Bitcoin, we know exactly how many coins will ever be in circulation.

And what about corporations issuing stocks? They’re no better. Just look at Adani, Wirecard’s fake accounting, and its collapse in Germany—those are scandals from just the last few years.

In the crypto market, this kind of manipulation is impossible. The law is the blockchain code or the smart contract, fully transparent and open to everyone.

Governments? Full of scammers too. Just look at how budgets are handled in France, Germany, and South Korea—political deadlocks over dividing funds. And last year, the U.S. lost its top sovereign credit rating due to budget disputes. Crypto doesn’t have that problem.
Can Crypto be trusted?
Look at all the rugs in the field.
Look at FTX
Look at Luna crypto
Look at BUSD, even binance's stable is phasing out

It's all the same, really, online offline, you invest at your own risk.
 
Binance has a market capitalization of $2.41T
Nasdaq (NDAQ) has a market capitalization of $46.04 billion
The market capitalization of the London Stock Exchange is $76.33 billion USD
In other words, trading commodities and currencies doesn't generate the kind of turnover that cryptocurrency trading does. And, in fact, it is simply bought up and held like digital gold, considering it a safe investment. Thus, a significant portion of funds end up simply frozen and taken out of circulation. Or am I missing something?
Yes, I love crypto vs classic stock market BUT at the right time.
Binance has a market capitalization of $2.41T
Nasdaq (NDAQ) has a market capitalization of $46.04 billion
The market capitalization of the London Stock Exchange is $76.33 billion USD
In other words, trading commodities and currencies doesn't generate the kind of turnover that cryptocurrency trading does. And, in fact, it is simply bought up and held like digital gold, considering it a safe investment. Thus, a significant portion of funds end up simply frozen and taken out of circulation. Or am I missing something?
I love crypto vs stock market but at the right time.
 
USDT / USDC
You may as well say to me "Googly gaggly waajactiyaiya,l jumpoodly doo" They both pretty much have the same meaning. I don't understand what I said, and I don't understand what you said.

If you are saying there is such a thing as a liquid crypto exchange or mechanism, then why did it fail before when FTX got shafted? As that's the only thing I recognize from these crypto debates, people keep putting their money in like a bottomless pit, but it only seems to be rug pullers making or even at best KEEPING money with coins, and scam exchanges lol

Show me someone who took $100k back out of crypto after putting in either less or the same after they wanted it back. I double dare you... :)
 
The popularity of cryptocurrencies lies in the fact that blockchain eliminates the need for banks as intermediaries for money transfers.
Absolutely not! To me it sounds absolutely delusional to claim that the main use case for cryptocurrencies is money transfers. It's high risk investment, it's speculation, I would even accept a store of value. But money transfers? Sure, it happens sometimes, but the vast majority of people do not own crypto, so they can use it to pay for things. The whole HODL thing is antithetical to an actual everyday currency, so are the high fees and the waste of energy on mining.

Most people are into crypto to make money, not to transfer money.
 
You know that stablecoins are not crypto right?
That’s not correct—USDT and USDC are cryptocurrencies and work just like other coins or tokens on the blockchain. The main difference is how they’re designed to maintain stability. They’re built as stablecoins, which means their value stays pegged to $1 by being backed by reserves. While they share all the core features of other blockchain assets, like transferability and smart contract compatibility, their unique setup is what keeps their price stable.

You may as well say to me "Googly gaggly waajactiyaiya,l jumpoodly doo" They both pretty much have the same meaning. I don't understand what I said, and I don't understand what you said.

If you are saying there is such a thing as a liquid crypto exchange or mechanism, then why did it fail before when FTX got shafted? As that's the only thing I recognize from these crypto debates, people keep putting their money in like a bottomless pit, but it only seems to be rug pullers making or even at best KEEPING money with coins, and scam exchanges lol
FTX didn’t fail because of crypto itself—it failed because of bad actors and mismanagement, just like a traditional financial institution might collapse if someone misused client funds. Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX's founder) was accused of siphoning customer assets to fund personal ventures and cover bad bets. This wasn’t a failure of the technology behind crypto; it was a failure of the people running it.

Imagine blaming the idea of "banks" because Enron collapsed. It's the same thing—when trust breaks, people lose money. The issue wasn’t crypto as a system but rather centralization (FTX controlled everything) and a lack of transparency.

Yes, there are scams—just like there are scams in every financial system. But legitimate projects and people are making money too. A liquid crypto exchange (like Binance or Coinbase) is simply one where people can buy or sell crypto quickly without major price fluctuations. They work fine as long as:

1. The platform isn’t mismanaged.
2. There’s enough market demand and supply.

Show me someone who took $100k back out of crypto after putting in either less or the same after they wanted it back. I double dare you... :)
If you're saying, "Show me someone who’s cashed out successfully," there are plenty of examples. People have cashed out millions during bull runs. (Heck, Coinbase and Binance wouldn’t even exist if there weren’t people cashing out and paying fees on their way out the door.) But like any investment, success depends on when and how you play the game.

better to take a look at:
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/...-their-crypto-castles/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://nypost.com/2024/12/01/us-ne...rds-of-the-trump-bump/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.cointree.com/learn/bitcoin-success-stories/?utm_source=chatgpt.com


I'm not here to argue with anyone. but we need all of us to accept the idea and move forward
 
I'm not here to argue with anyone. but we need all of us to accept the idea and move forward
Thanks for the info. I still think it's one big scam, hahah :D and I'd rather have my brain for business principles over gambling my made money on digital currency amounts going up over time (hopefully).
 
I like the idea behind cryptocurrency. I like that it's hard for states to reach them. I just don't like the insecurity of the exchanges. For example, binance blocked my account without explanation. Good that they at least let me withdraw money, but I heard about a lot of blocking together with funds.
 
Can Crypto be trusted?
Look at all the rugs in the field.
Look at FTX
Look at Luna crypto
Look at BUSD, even binance's stable is phasing out

It's all the same, really, online offline, you invest at your own risk.
You're comparing apples and oranges. You're talking about centralized platforms messing up, not crypto itself. If I send you fiat to your bank account and it doesn't arrive, how do you prove you didn't receive it? You have to deal with the bank, which can hold your money and tell you all sorts of stories, especially with international transfers. Now, about your examples: FTX wasn't about crypto, but derivatives; Luna offered 19% APY without explaining how, and its tokens weren't backed by anything; BUSD was backed, and everyone got their funds back when it was shut down. These are examples of centralized failures, not a problem with the core idea of crypto: peer-to-peer transactions. If I send crypto to your wallet, you can't deny receiving it – there's a public transaction ID and blockchain record.
Did all loose pension forever? Or it improved after some time?
My pension? Oh, you mean the thing the government generously "borrowed" 10 years ago and never returned? Yeah, they also decided I need to work a few more years for good measure. So, to answer your question: yes, it's pretty much gone.
Sometimes it scares me to listen to you. I think the world is going crazy. Everybody's going to the government to make more money?!
Depends where you're at, bro. In developed countries, people go into government for the power trip, in developing ones, where the government's power is limited by poverty, they go in to become super-rich. But that's not really about crypto. Getting back to digital assets, governments are slowly figuring out how to profit from them.
 
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Absolutely not! To me it sounds absolutely delusional to claim that the main use case for cryptocurrencies is money transfers. It's high risk investment, it's speculation, I would even accept a store of value
Check the facts, bro. The second biggest crypto, USDT, has 66% of its volume used for international business payments, not speculation or investment. It's way easier and cheaper for businesses to do cross-border transactions this way, especially in countries with unstable currencies.

Plus, it's cheaper for businesses to accept crypto for goods. There are tons of payment processors that handle crypto and instantly convert it to fiat.

BitPay's doing great, and Cryptomus is getting corporate clients like crazy. Even PayPal's jumped on the bandwagon, offering crypto payments for businesses and retail customers.

This retail payment market hit $295 billion in 2021 and is projected to reach $1.2 trillion by 2025. So, yeah, crypto is definitely used for payments.
 
Check the facts, bro. The second biggest crypto, USDT, has 66% of its volume used for international business payments, not speculation or investment. It's way easier and cheaper for businesses to do cross-border transactions this way, especially in countries with unstable currencies.

Plus, it's cheaper for businesses to accept crypto for goods. There are tons of payment processors that handle crypto and instantly convert it to fiat.

BitPay's doing great, and Cryptomus is getting corporate clients like crazy. Even PayPal's jumped on the bandwagon, offering crypto payments for businesses and retail customers.

This retail payment market hit $295 billion in 2021 and is projected to reach $1.2 trillion by 2025. So, yeah, crypto is definitely used for payments.
Fair enough. I did not think stable coin at all. I might have underestimated that use case. Still, it's important to put those numbers in perspective. The USD FX turnover per day was 6.6 trillion in 2022. Not exactly retail and that does include speculation, but it's just a banana for scale number I found with a quick Google search.
 
Cryptocurrency has changed lives of many people in front of my eyes .
This is the most interesting space right now in the market.
 
Fair enough. I did not think stable coin at all. I might have underestimated that use case. Still, it's important to put those numbers in perspective. The USD FX turnover per day was 6.6 trillion in 2022. Not exactly retail and that does include speculation, but it's just a banana for scale number I found with a quick Google search.
Yeah, I work in Forex, so I'm familiar with the stats. Actually, the FX turnover hit $15 trillion in 2023, not 6.6.

But here's another thing to consider: I mentioned on the forum before that around $10 trillion is locked up in retail payment processing in banks worldwide. Crypto could potentially unlock those funds.
 
But here's another thing to consider: I mentioned on the forum before that around $10 trillion is locked up in retail payment processing in banks worldwide. Crypto could potentially unlock those funds.
Care to expand on that a bit more or point me to a thread where you have already?
 
Care to expand on that a bit more or point me to a thread where you have already?
The 10 trillion number comes from the concept of reserve requirements for banks. Basically, central banks force commercial banks to hold a portion of their deposits in reserve accounts at the central bank. This money is essentially "frozen" and can't be used for loans or other active operations. It's there to ensure smooth transactions and provide liquidity.

Now, consider this: SWIFT handles over 30 million transactions daily. A huge chunk of international payments goes through these reserve accounts, involving massive daily conversions. On top of that, the IMF estimated daily Forex trading volume between 8 and 15 trillion in 2023. So, considering all that, 10 trillion locked up in reserves is a conservative estimate of the scale of these transactions.
 
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