Alternatives to Adwords? PPC -> CPA

[daeyun]

Hello,
I used to promote email/zip submit offers using Adwords. but
Google raised the bids up to $1.00 and it's not profitable anymore.
I'm thinking about alternatives to Adwords like YPN or Adcenter.
Do they provide profitable traffics for email/zip offers?
I need at least 300~500 visitors a day for ipod and giftcard related offers.
Did anybody have the same problem? Any advice?
Thanks.

 

[havokb8]

Its all the same.......MSN however gets barely any traffic , yahoo is pretty comparable they are getting better ........you can also try ask.com other than that id stay way from all the others

 

[daeyun]

What about the bidding price though? Would it be still the same $1.00 per click?
Thanks.

 

[havokb8]

What about the bidding price though? Would it be still the same $1.00 per click?
Thanks.

no yahoo starts at 10 cents msn is 5 cents and ask is 5 cents

 

[tbenny]

A little learned experience, do not waste time on email zip submits w/ adwords. Truth is you could have a better conversion rate selling a thousand dollar product with the right keywords. Remember, in the end your job is not about you looking for them, it is about making it easy for them to find you. Whatever buyers you have, make it easy for them to find you. Don't bid for leads, bid for sales.

 

[havokb8]

A little learned experience, do not waste time on email zip submits w/ adwords. Truth is you could have a better conversion rate selling a thousand dollar product with the right keywords. Remember, in the end your job is not about you looking for them, it is about making it easy for them to find you. Whatever buyers you have, make it easy for them to find you. Don't bid for leads, bid for sales.

lol ya ive only made about a million dollars with zip/email submits on adwords i wouldnt bother with it either

 

[pixelgrinder]

lol ya ive only made about a million dollars with zip/email submits on adwords i wouldnt bother with it either

lol owned.

 

[havokb8]

lol owned.

where you been on IRC pixel?

 

[tbenny]

O.K. Havok, you seem to always offer negative, so here is one for you, PROOF or it did not happen. A million dollars with zip submits? Who believes that?

 

[scubaslick]

O.K. Havok, you seem to always offer negative, so here is one for you, PROOF or it did not happen. A million dollars with zip submits? Who believes that?

I believe it.

Havok revealed a method on another forum that had to have earned him $250,000 before his exploit got fixed.

If he says he did it, you better bank on it. Why? Because he might teach you something that could make YOU a million if you'll open your mind a bit.

On second thought, keep doubting. Less competition that way.

 

[tbenny]

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

 

[havokb8]

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

i dont bitch what are you talking about ? Man your crazy if you say noone will teach there is so much stuff on this forum, wealthy is about to do some awesome coaching here in about a week why dont you get in on that.. Cashcorp is doing something similar for noobs as well you should look into that. Otherwise there are countless tutorials on a variety of subjects you can read on here. I can teach basics of all kinds of stuff i wont tell you my exact methods obviously.

Also I dont need to show you proof of my earnings, I dont talk shit or lie, and i dont care if you believe me or not either.

 

[daeyun]

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

You will never be able to learn anything with that attitude.

 

[pixelgrinder]

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

Dude. Get into our IRC channel and just read what people are saying or use the search function. No one will tell you exactly what to do, you need to experiment and test things like everyone else. There is no 1,2,3 step guide to instant millions. Go pick up an adwords coupon and start doing work.

where you been on IRC pixel?

inbetween moving places. I get on BHW while im at work. ill be on later this week

 

[scubaslick]

Dude his JOB is to smack down any bullshit he sees on this forum and I'd almost be willing to bet he doesn't get paid a cent to do it. He's not bitching, he's protecting people like you from scams and bullshit. Why are you whining?

Here's your teaching.

Read.
Apply.
Think.
Change.
Succeed.
Rinse.
Repeat.

Have you used the little menu next to all the exec VIP member's names that says "Find all posts by this user?" Have you spent months reading those posts, taking notes, comparing methods and attitudes and thoughts, trying things out, reflecting on what you saw, tweaking a bit, going back and reading some more then asking intelligent, well thought out questions about what you don't understand?

If not you aren't willing to learn, you're "willing" to be baby sat and probably not smart enough to realize that the people you want to baby sit you don't owe you anything. They're here to help voluntarily. The key word is help. Not "do it for you". Not "think for you". Not "work for you". Not "bow down to your demands."

Help.

You'll get all you can ever want here. But YOU have to do the hard part.

Can't handle it?

http://www.monster.com

And don't come back.

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

 

[havokb8]

no we dont get paid at all

 

[Essential Clix]

He does not want to teach anything. Just wants to bitch. I am willing to learn, but no one will teach. So fuck it.

People don't just hand out huge money-making methods and show you how to use them simply because you asked. While you're at it, why not ask for the keys to his house and car?