phone box farm vs. server

[jasonshepard]

i’m interested in operating mother/child at scale and seeking the most cost effective option. while i understand that this can be done all on a vps for IG. what about tiktok, twitter, etc?


has anyone built/opereated phone box farm? if so howd you do it, and where did you buy from. so many only want wire to purchase.

is it easier to just used pre existing services? im looking to get the best value for the long term

thank you in advance

 

[Adilx]

If you can buy phones at bulk under 50$ i prefer you go with the phone farm, because you will have sustainable operation without bans compared to servers plus with servees you need proxies

 

[jasonshepard]

If you can buy phones at bulk under 50$ i prefer you go with the phone farm, because you will have sustainable operation without bans compared to servers plus with servees you need proxies

so proxies aren't required with phone farms?

how do you get past the location based stuff for tiktok?

i found some vendors right on aliexpress that sell box of 20 phones below $50 per but it depends on the model of android thats required for this (which i dont know what i need)

because my objective is best value

 

[Adilx]

so proxies aren't required with phone farms?

how do you get past the location based stuff for tiktok?

i found some vendors right on aliexpress that sell box of 20 phones below $50 per but it depends on the model of android thats required for this (which i dont know what i need)

because my objective is best value

bypassing tiktok location is easy just avoid using sim cards and get yourself a vpn
if you want a bot developer for your farm can help for free.

so proxies aren't required with phone farms?

how do you get past the location based stuff for tiktok?

i found some vendors right on aliexpress that sell box of 20 phones below $50 per but it depends on the model of android thats required for this (which i dont know what i need)

because my objective is best value

phone farms are more versatile you can do more things compared to servers (and you get banned on platforms less) and your hardware is yours so on bad months if you could not pay servers you cant use them unlike a phone farm

 

[noneisnone]

Just out of curiosity phone farms require normal proxies ? In my country i can acquire smart phones for as low as 20$

 

[IntiMech]

It depends on what you want to do and your resources.

First is your location, if you are in a tier 1 country then you will have access to cheaper mobile data so you can set up bulk simcards and use the mobile data.
This will allow you to avoid paying for proxies. Simply have a script that will turn off then on aeroplane mode, then you have new IPs.
Being you are in a tier 1 country then you will also be more favoured by the socila media algorytms, meaning you can create your own accounts.

If you are not in one of these countries then you will need to buy accounts because creating accounts in other countries that the social media companies class as more high risk for spam and fraud then right off the bat you are going to have lower trust score.
Then you also have the issue of proxies.
You will need to buy proxies for each device which can get very expensive quick.

You will have a similar problem to the above paragraph with emulators or VMs.

Phone farms are the way to go no matter what. Just the excustion will varity depending on your resources and location.

As for phones themselves.
You want to be getting at least iphone X's or androids with android 11 and up but ideally 13.

Iphones will be easier to obtain and give a higher trust score with accounts because they are almost impossible to hack on where as android is easier. In my testing I have found accounts that have been created and run on Iphone seem to perform better and get results faster with less issues.

The other reason you want higher quality phones is resell value. If you change your mind and this is not for you, you can still sell the phones for close to or the same as what you bought them. Where are cheap phones (sub $100) you will be lucky to sell again because for 100 or 150 you can get a much newer phone with less issues.

 

[jasonshepard]

So i was thinking about buying/building phone farm boxes off alibaba myself, ive build pc's before so this looks pretty simple, im in the USA, it seems like its just a control motherboard + a series of motherboards for under $30 u get the best ones then a power source and case. it seems like you can just buy most of it on aliexpress without any issues.

thing is what and where do you run these things from? i was told running from your basement isn't the best idea lol


i am in teir 1 country obviously for the sake of getting mobile service, but what do you tell the companies when you call up that your looking to do with all this service, also how do i keep the operating budget as low as possible, cell phone bills are expensive!

It depends on what you want to do and your resources.

First is your location, if you are in a tier 1 country then you will have access to cheaper mobile data so you can set up bulk simcards and use the mobile data.
This will allow you to avoid paying for proxies. Simply have a script that will turn off then on aeroplane mode, then you have new IPs.
Being you are in a tier 1 country then you will also be more favoured by the socila media algorytms, meaning you can create your own accounts.

If you are not in one of these countries then you will need to buy accounts because creating accounts in other countries that the social media companies class as more high risk for spam and fraud then right off the bat you are going to have lower trust score.
Then you also have the issue of proxies.
You will need to buy proxies for each device which can get very expensive quick.

You will have a similar problem to the above paragraph with emulators or VMs.

Phone farms are the way to go no matter what. Just the excustion will varity depending on your resources and location.

As for phones themselves.
You want to be getting at least iphone X's or androids with android 11 and up but ideally 13.

Iphones will be easier to obtain and give a higher trust score with accounts because they are almost impossible to hack on where as android is easier. In my testing I have found accounts that have been created and run on Iphone seem to perform better and get results faster with less issues.

The other reason you want higher quality phones is resell value. If you change your mind and this is not for you, you can still sell the phones for close to or the same as what you bought them. Where are cheap phones (sub $100) you will be lucky to sell again because for 100 or 150 you can get a much newer phone with less issues.

forgot to mention this in my last reply but i was also told i can clone the app to operate 100 accounts per phone, is that true?

bypassing tiktok location is easy just avoid using sim cards and get yourself a vpn
if you want a bot developer for your farm can help for free.

whats the vpn cost and whats the sim service cost?

i would love help! do you have any ide where to operate these thigns from? location wise i was told running at home isnt smart

 

[iRamiHome]

I have a phone farm, I'm currently talking to a Chinese guy about buying his software to control everything, but I think it's better with iPhone

 

[jasonshepard]

I have a phone farm, I'm currently talking to a Chinese guy about buying his software to control everything, but I think it's better with iPhone

how many phones?

how much dose it cost to operate per month?

how are you dealing with some of the solutions ive posted above?

 

[iRamiHome]

¿cuantos telefonos?

¿Cuánto cuesta operar por mes?

¿Cómo estás lidiando con algunas de las soluciones que he publicado anteriormente?

Well, I currently have 700 phones, I managed to make a lot of money with Facebook, but now it seems that they have changed but this is what has made me earn good money.

 

[jasonshepard]

Well, I currently have 700 phones, I managed to make a lot of money with Facebook, but now it seems that they have changed but this is what has made me earn good money.

how do you operate them, do you use buinsess wifi and hardware vpn? or do you have sim service for each one? do you have phone farm boxes or do you have physical devices? where can i buy them reputablely? can you reccomend?

 

[iRamiHome]

how do you operate them, do you use buinsess wifi and hardware vpn? or do you have sim service for each one? do you have phone farm boxes or do you have physical devices? where can i buy them reputablely? can you reccomend?

I am using sim for each 1

 

[OccultKingdoms]

what about tiktok, twitter, etc

Wrong sites. Try YouTube and some passion to create videos, really nice way to make money as you get more than just money, you get something to do, learn and grow.

Another site is Google Search - here you can use PPC and target cheap countries. Make a quality, non-sales oriented landing page and grab people's emails on that landing page, then sell to them via email.

TikTok is a crazy website. It's like half-broken. I think it's made by very specific people with very specific ideology which is hard to understand for people like European marketers. You can test TIkTok Ads, although I would think 50+ tests need to be done. I haven't done any as the traffic is mostly such that they'll buy energy drinks and supplements. I don't have these currently in stock.

Why would you build those mobile farms? I tell you why, you try to monkey other people. You don't have firm reasons to do that at your level of aspiration. If you don't plan to make $1m monthly, forget those farms and focus on desktop, MacOS automation.

Start with a customer - ask yourself "where my customer is", "where can I find my customer", "to what cultures my customer belongs", "by what trends my customer is characterized by". For sure most customers are into instant gratification cultures. Those are everywhere. Just find the easiest way to target them.

If you can buy phones at bulk under 50$ i prefer you go with the phone farm, because you will have sustainable operation without bans compared to servers plus with servees you need proxies

AWS instances have IP ranges more random and better than 99.9% of proxies on the market.
AWS can be used for everything these days.

They sell 5G connection and give free AI, and massive amount of resources to every aspiring entrepreneur.

Jeff Bezos knew what the business is about.

Don't be fooled by "IP type". It's irrelevant as long as your IP is clean. You can use IPv6 on YouTube for example. Just buy from a large provider instead of scammy resellers of the same unethical P2P proxy farm.

Uhm, I can buy an 8 gig ram, 4 core desktop for $15 and run Linux on that or Windows. If I put proxy from a random location on each, it's 100 computers for $1500.

In both cases you'll need to build an internal network. Instead, going to AWS is an alternative and they give free ec2 instances. Just you need to understand it's about being in many locations and having different inputs on each account. Fresh, quality, relevant content on each account - I use adobe after effects scripting for that where 1 channel on YouTube has one style assigned.