Google News blackhat

[NoFear87]

Hi All,
I'm going to ask you a question about Google News but I'm not looking for the usual official google answer. I want to know how rotten sites manage to get into google news when all they do is copy and steal content from other sites, even images.
Thx

 

[Seemasingh5020]

it is hard for honest websites, since, Google’s robots sometime don’t catch everything and mostly with images. It is due to the fact that some of these bad sites may update their copied content to make it different or include so many keyword in their activities that Google may be deceived.

 

[Steptoe]

Hi All,
I'm going to ask you a question about Google News but I'm not looking for the usual official google answer. I want to know how rotten sites manage to get into google news when all they do is copy and steal content from other sites, even images.
Thx

Google's onboarding for Google News is relatively easy: https://publishercenter.google.com/
There is little visible moderation going on, I have sites in there with autogenerated content, translated content, paraphrased content, and just plain scraped content.

 

[NoFear87]

Google's onboarding for Google News is relatively easy: https://publishercenter.google.com/
There is little visible moderation going on, I have sites in there with autogenerated content, translated content, paraphrased content, and just plain scraped content.

My site is accepted in publisher, it was very easy. but the real diffuculity is that it never appears in the top stories or news topic while other mediocre sites appear! yours appear in the top stories in the SERP?

 

[Yetihunter1]

it is hard for honest websites, since, Google’s robots sometime don’t catch everything and mostly with images. It is due to the fact that some of these bad sites may update their copied content to make it different or include so many keyword in their activities that Google may be deceived.

Great question. As you mentioned, it was easy enough to get approved. But very few stories actually appear on Google News. Same thing with google discover.

 

[noellarkin]

There is little visible moderation going on, I have sites in there with autogenerated content, translated content, paraphrased content, and just plain scraped content.

I've always wondered what these sites are used for ... many of them aren't "good enough" to be decent PBNs...so are they used just for indexing links?

 

[Montage Motion]

It's super annoying, but some sneaky websites trick Google's system to get into Google News even though they're just copying stuff from other places.

 

[Jaordas]

While I don't exactly do this, I do get google news approvals quickly on my sites in the beginning, the moderation isn't crazy good but getting into it before you spam the hell out of your domain makes things easier.





like honestly, they don't even check much for if your content is stolen when you apply, this might not be totally accurate but for me I literally load up a download of a site I got approved onto a new domain (same content, nothing changed with design or anything) and apply the site to AdSense and google news instantly and the approval is practically a given.......



Only AdSense has sometimes given me a little trouble but generally 90% of the time I can literally get my new domains into them just buy loading a version of a past site I got approved before onto them.

Once I'm in, I can delete the articles and rebrand the site to what it was really meant for.

 

[xaviera]

It's hard for Google's bots to catch this, and the person posting the message is likely posting it through some channel.

 

[Nikolaos]

Hi All,
I'm going to ask you a question about Google News but I'm not looking for the usual official google answer. I want to know how rotten sites manage to get into google news when all they do is copy and steal content from other sites, even images.
Thx

It's just so easy to get approved that many sites are doing it. But to rank to the top you have to have unique and very interesting content .

 

[s0da]

If you ask about copy content almost all media copy sometimes word by word articles of each other especially local outlets so news doesnt value the originality as much compared to regular SERP.

 

[Steptoe]

I've always wondered what these sites are used for ... many of them aren't "good enough" to be decent PBNs...so are they used just for indexing links?

I suppose 'decent' is relative. I'm happy to post links on most of my Google news-enabled sites, the rest I use for display ads, the occasional link sale, indexing like you say, and some are just plain olde experiments

I have however noticed the process to get into Google News has become more stringent since I last posted in this thread.

 

[Marco69]

When you are approved to google news and blogging daily -"pushing out daily news" does your articles rank in google news ?

Does google accepts now every niche include evergreen niches, or must the article itself be a journalistic news (from reuters as example) instead of evergreen blogposts content?
Anyone tried to get into Bing news? That should bring you extra traffic I guess.

Do you get traffic when your post not rank within google news?
But this I found today;
"Google asserts that misleading content will not be tolerated - specifically articles that mislead readers by promising details which aren't reflected in the underlying content.” This is Google attempting to discourage the frequency of clickbait on the Google News platform. "

What the heck? The mainstream press if full with clickbait lies every day......
When you doing rewriting, do you get google penalties when your news story look ssimilar to others? Why I ask that you think...come look around
the daily news the content is near similar form all these big media news sites but they not get a punishment form google. I think your should make your story more unique and not adding any weird thoughts form your mind (this could be another suspect of.....) no that will look like conspiracy fake news.

I not think that google news will approve conspiracy sites ?
Where is the difference between google publishers and google producers ?

Happy sunday!

 

[arenis]

its kinda hard bcs while Google's algorithms and policies are designed to prioritize high-quality and original content various tactics employed by low-quality and content-stealing sites can sometimes outmaneuver these system, google continuously updates its algorithms to address these issues but still the battle between quality content and manipulative practices is ongoing

 

[Steptoe]

When you are approved to google news and blogging daily -"pushing out daily news" does your articles rank in google news ?

Does google accepts now every niche include evergreen niches, or must the article itself be a journalistic news (from reuters as example) instead of evergreen blogposts content?

I don't really aim for any specific ranking on my Google news sites, longtails are fine - it's a numbers game really. I have sites in several tight niches and others with extremely broad coverage.

But this I found today;
"Google asserts that misleading content will not be tolerated - specifically articles that mislead readers by promising details which aren't reflected in the underlying content.” This is Google attempting to discourage the frequency of clickbait on the Google News platform. "

What the heck? The mainstream press if full with clickbait lies every day......
When you doing rewriting, do you get google penalties when your news story look ssimilar to others? Why I ask that you think...come look around
the daily news the content is near similar form all these big media news sites but they not get a punishment form google. I think your should make your story more unique and not adding any weird thoughts form your mind (this could be another suspect of.....) no that will look like conspiracy fake news.

Everything that is posted on my Google news sites is either AI generated or rewritten from other sources, so I don't really have any attachment to them, and don't care if they go against any guidelines. Pretty much every news article I see is clickbait with a heavy dose of bias, so I don't feel I'm really taking anything away from the system, more like just adding more crap to the pile

 

[Jaordas]

I don't really aim for any specific ranking on my Google news sites, longtails are fine - it's a numbers game really. I have sites in several tight niches and others with extremely broad coverage.


Everything that is posted on my Google news sites is either AI generated or rewritten from other sources, so I don't really have any attachment to them, and don't care if they go against any guidelines. Pretty much every news article I see is clickbait with a heavy dose of bias, so I don't feel I'm really taking anything away from the system, more like just adding more crap to the pile

have you ever talked about your automation of the news posts? That is something I would love to read the process for especially if you already explained it somewhere

 

[Powerful Tiger Ads]

Those spammy sites must be paying Google.

That's what I think.

 

[Marco69]

I got answer from google community, they say it's a fine ( thin) line ..
You can have ads or affiliate links on your g news site ,but separated, also not ads or affiliate link on each news story and they should not exceed your news content .

Means you can have a few of them on a separate page.

Promote your services and products is not allowed.

But you can have a subscription form on the news site that's allowed,you can build a list and then promoting products to your subscribers.

At least only journalism style news will be ranking within their news system to get additional traffic, when they not ranking your news , I think your post will get indexed more quickly and you will rank in the normal organic serp list.

That's an art of a twist this G news thing but doable . You need good AI prompts to get into their journalism news system to gain extra traffic.

Any tips to design my page so that I have separated reviews in my site and some good AI prompts to write journalism news?

I bet any conspiracy niche is not allowed, heck how write journalism news about deep state, ancient, aliens and that stuff?

You should not do any deceptive, or misleading things on your g news site.

For me it feels and sounds more and more that big G speak with snake tonque in very sophistical way, big G not tell you with clear words the legal loopholes they give to their wef organization friends, these big sites who ruling google SEO worldwide, nope.

This is why they have different advanced tech, tools and some G loopholes they are always beyond "us"....

 

[Steptoe]

have you ever talked about your automation of the news posts? That is something I would love to read the process for especially if you already explained it somewhere

I don't think I have talked about it really, but here's the gist:
I rarely use WordPress, I prefer to use simple database-driven scripts to store and display content.
AI generated content comes from various LLM APIs, not just OpenAI.
Paraphrased content comes from scraping various sources (my own parsers) and running them through the T5 model (https://github.com/Vamsi995/Paraphrase-Generator) which can also be accessed via API like this: https://rapidapi.com/genius-tools-genius-tools-default/api/paraphrase-genius
News sources can also be accessed from APIs such as https://www.newsomaticapi.com/pricing/ and https://newsapi.org/pricing
Images are still a bit of a sore point for me, but I tend to scrape images from pexels or similar sites, and then use img2img to generate something similar (but different enough) to the source image.

 

[Marco69]

I don't think I have talked about it really, but here's the gist:
I rarely use WordPress, I prefer to use simple database-driven scripts to store and display content.
AI generated content comes from various LLM APIs, not just OpenAI.
Paraphrased content comes from scraping various sources (my own parsers) and running them through the T5 model (https://github.com/Vamsi995/Paraphrase-Generator) which can also be accessed via API like this: https://rapidapi.com/genius-tools-genius-tools-default/api/paraphrase-genius
News sources can also be accessed from APIs such as https://www.newsomaticapi.com/pricing/ and https://newsapi.org/pricing
Images are still a bit of a sore point for me, but I tend to scrape images from pexels or similar sites, and then use img2img to generate something similar (but different enough) to the source image.

Sources from reuters are free without costs.......