I send invites invites, page die...

[Vandyke]

Hi,
big trouble here...

i used to launch pages with decent results using suggestions of my many accounts but, since 5 days ago, ever the same thing happen.
I create a page (new account, cookie deleted, new proxy), the page has no fbml or cpa things inside, has anything, just the fb visible to connection, and page die after 1-2 hours that i send invites, now is the 8th page that die in this way, i'm a little bit tired, anyone want to help me, i can consider to PAY for a training course on how to let a page survive.

If you can help me write here and pm me with your contact.

Thank you.

 

[Gradimir Stankovic]

Try not to send invites and see will it die or not.

 

[Vandyke]

Try not to send invites and see will it die or not.

congratulation for the +1 post count. There is never a moderator around when is needed

 

[blowme007]

congratulation for the +1 post count. There is never a moderator around when is needed

Dude chillax, he wasnt being a smartass, try building a page, dont send invites, see if you still get deleted. If you do, then it has nothing to do with the invites, and is something else causing the page to go down. How many invites are you sending that you think that is the cause?

 

[Vandyke]

but excuse me.., if i make a page and son't send invites/suggestions... what is the goal ? i have a page at 0 fans... really, what is the point ?

 

[blowme007]

it may be something else causing the page to go dead. Possibly your IP or something else while creating it. Ive had pages go dead in an hour or so with no fans also, obviously has nothing to do with invites or suggestions, has something to do with page name or anything else. How many invites do you typically send?

 

[Vandyke]

usually send from 60k to 100k.

But since 4-5 days ago this worked good.

 

[seojumper]

Maybe the page has Keyword in title, that sparks red falg, or filters of some sort?

Like, get free Ipad?

 

[blowme007]

exactly what seojumper said....but also 60k -100k is insane, just cause it worked 4-5 days ago means nothing. FB changes everyday. Try waiting and see what happens, or scale your invites down a bit and see what happens. Obviously nobody knows the exact key, but trial and error is the only way to learn.

 

[Sprouts]

Could be for a few reasons:

1-

Sending too many invites - What can you do?
Make a test page and send less (if any) invites and see if it gets taken down. If it does, this isnt the problem....

2-

Page has a word in it which is ringing alarm bells - What to do?

Make a fresh acc with the same page name, add the FBML and make it identical to what you page is now. Dont send any invites and see if it gets killed.

3-

FBML - As soon as people add FBML, things go wrong... Try inviting with no FBML, get to 10k and verify the page (if it's a legit page). Then add the FBML and milk whilst verified.

 

[Vandyke]

Maybe the page has Keyword in title, that sparks red falg, or filters of some sort?

Like, get free Ipad?

no, of course not.

I had deleted pages with title I love to live in the medieval time. or 11 most inappropriate toys kids ever, or how to memorize fast for an exam.

ecc. with no fbml and no cpa inside.

but excuse me, if you tell me to not send suggestions, how you launch your pages ?

btw my offer is still valid, i pay for a training on how to let pages survive.

 

[Vandyke]

Could be for a few reasons:

..

2-

Page has a word in it which is ringing alarm bells - What to do?

Make a fresh acc with the same page name, add the FBML and make it identical to what you page is now. Dont send any invites and see if it gets killed.

3-

FBML - As soon as people add FBML, things go wrong... Try inviting with no FBML, get to 10k and verify the page (if it's a legit page). Then add the FBML and milk whilst verified.

step 2 done, whitout sending any invites page stay up.

for the step 3, when you mean fbml, you mean also a simple click i like for see the content, with fb visible to connection ?

thank you

 

[blowme007]

Not saying to never send an invite to your page. You said your pages go down in 1-2 hours right? So make the page, wait 1 to 2 hours with no invites, if page doesnt go down, then send a small amount of invites. Wait a lil longer, if still there send another small amount of invites, then repeat. Like I said, trial and error. Theres no right or wrong answer, as nobody knows what would cause it to go down.

 

[Vandyke]

Not saying to never send an invite to your page. You said your pages go down in 1-2 hours right? So make the page, wait 1 to 2 hours with no invites, if page doesnt go down, then send a small amount of invites. Wait a lil longer, if still there send another small amount of invites, then repeat. Like I said, trial and error. Theres no right or wrong answer, as nobody knows what would cause it to go down.

ok, in your opinion which amount of suggestions can be considered when the page has 0 fans ?

ty

 

[blowme007]

Honestly, I wouldnt know the answer to this. I dont send invites to my pages. But IMO 60-100k is way too many and is easy for FB to see. Try cutting it in half. If that doesnt work, cut it in half again. Keep doing this until you find the magic number. Chances are, it will take more then 1 trial. So dont get frustrated and give up. But like I said, test test test, its the same as CL where people need to so testing to get their posts to stick. FB is nothing different. You may not even find your answer today. Try 30-60k invites and let us know what happens.

 

[Gradimir Stankovic]

but excuse me.., if i make a page and son't send invites/suggestions... what is the goal ? i have a page at 0 fans... really, what is the point ?

Point is to find out does invites cause page deletion or fbml codes, or something totally different.
It is possible to get tons of fans with 0 invites (for example, buying status updates, there are many other ways).

 

[Vandyke]

Point is to find out does invites cause page deletion or fbml codes, or something totally different.
It is possible to get tons of fans with 0 invites (for example, buying status updates, there are many other ways).

ok, i resume.

- I make the page using new account (usually pva) and new elite proxy.

- Title has nothing that can activate autoalarm

-usually i add a fb:visible-to-connection so when the user like can see a content related to page topic, or a link to a content related, whitout any cpa or offer inside (i plan do add later)

- if i don't send any invites, the page stay, i have a page since 4 days made for this pourpouse, with 6 fans, and is ON.

- When i send invites/suggestions, page die, usually in a timeframe between 10 minutes and some hours, the page has the same settings explained before.

- In this way i'm frozen because i cannot build anything of good

Now i hope that the situation is better explained

 

[blowme007]

well, if you already have a page for 4 days, that you have fbml on, and havent sent any suggestions to, then yes, it is the suggestions .doing it. But not just them alone. Its the AMOUNT of them youre sending. Slow it down a bit. Like I said before, cut it in half at least. If you already have proved to yourself thats the problem, which from your last post, seems like you have, then question is answered. Now just find the right amount of invites to send. Invites are same as friend requests, they are capped at some number before raising a red flag. Now just find the number.

 

[Darkone]

ive done some testing on this issue, on multiple accounts. Once a page gets deleted, for abusing the tos or bla bla, it seems that your pages report algorithm on the account changes so probably before your 1st page was deleted it took 25% of people flagging/reporting the page, where as after the 1st page is deleted it takes a lot less probably 10% of reports for the page to get picked up and deleted. I also believe that it has to do with the size of the page obviously to the ratio of report/flags. Ive tried aging pages to see if that has a different result in how long it stays alive, as well as account aging, no effect...

 

[Vandyke]

ive done some testing on this issue, on multiple accounts. Once a page gets deleted, for abusing the tos or bla bla, it seems that your pages report algorithm on the account changes so probably before your 1st page was deleted it took 25% of people flagging/reporting the page, where as after the 1st page is deleted it takes a lot less probably 10% of reports for the page to get picked up and deleted. I also believe that it has to do with the size of the page obviously to the ratio of report/flags. Ive tried aging pages to see if that has a different result in how long it stays alive, as well as account aging, no effect...

You have not considered that i make pages every time on new account, new proxy, and only 1 page each account.