What are your thoughts on botting link shorteners?

[AmitiSajar]

I am a developer (i think it would take some time to develop it so i may just hire someone to do it quicker) and i have been thinking about making a bot for earning money with link shorteners i could get rotating proxies for it. I'd like to get 10k+ to the link everyday. What are your thoughts?

 

[OccultKingdoms]

Which link shortener?

I don't see anything interesting beyond scam sites pretending to be link shorteners. Wait, they're not interesting! Sorry for saying that!

Ahh, if I understand correctly you want to fraud link shorteners.

Then I think it's useless short term wasted effort on something too small. They're rather niche and would quickly notice something is wrong with their money leaking.

It's like "parasite seo" where guys find a site, invest weeks to bot some site and suddenly they shut down that site cause it was spammed.

And so it's not working as a business model.

OOPS!

Yes, stealing, fraud and such things are basically business models that are kind of invalid.

Maybe try reverse engineering of social media?
Or automation of YouTube? Instagram? Twitter?
Or make apps to help people that become popular naturally with high ROAS?

These things provide some stability. It's not perfect, but potential is in billions.
You can target any person on the planet with these sites, or persona in more general terms.
So choose wisely.

 

[AmitiSajar]

Which link shortener?

I don't see anything interesting beyond scam sites pretending to be link shorteners. Wait, they're not interesting! Sorry for saying that!

Ahh, if I understand correctly you want to fraud link shorteners.

Then I think it's useless short term wasted effort on something too small. They're rather niche and would quickly notice something is wrong with their money leaking.

It's like "parasite seo" where guys find a site, invest weeks to bot some site and suddenly they shut down that site cause it was spammed.

And so it's not working as a business model.

OOPS!

Yes, stealing, fraud and such things are basically business models that are kind of invalid.

Maybe try reverse engineering of social media?
Or automation of YouTube? Instagram? Twitter?
Or make apps to help people that become popular naturally with high ROAS?

These things provide some stability. It's not perfect, but potential is in billions.
You can target any person on the planet with these sites, or persona in more general terms.
So choose wisely.

hey thanks for giving me a new point of view, i meant Linkvertise as a link shortener. But i could try my idea of the landing page with bunch of referral links, i dont know if getting a marketer or someone able to drive traffic to the page would be equitative as my work is really simple and theirs would be everything for monetizing. I recently saw a guy getting like 100k views with an investment of 10$. I think the best way to do this would be to learn how to get traffic or jointventure with someone (again i cant tell if the work is equitative)

 

[OccultKingdoms]

hey thanks for giving me a new point of view, i meant Linkvertise as a link shortener. But i could try my idea of the landing page with bunch of referral links, i dont know if getting a marketer or someone able to drive traffic to the page would be equitative as my work is really simple and theirs would be everything for monetizing. I recently saw a guy getting like 100k views with an investment of 10$. I think the best way to do this would be to learn how to get traffic or jointventure with someone (again i cant tell if the work is equitative)

What I mean is that abuse of clicks and botting ads / offers is fraud and what that means, you might not get paid at all.

What's the matter with views if you can't cash out?

I don't know how it is on that site called linkvertise, but probably they have net 7 or net 30 and that's for a reason...

You have it here
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/linkvertise.1570776/#post-17331594

You post roblox scripts on youtube and use that link shortener, but... payment is so low you'll barely make money and accounts will be too expensive.
There are better monetization models like CPA / content locking. Although CPA requires a ton of work and serious setup these days, so it might not be interesting to most people.

 

[C63]

I recently saw a guy getting like 100k views with an investment of 10$

Where did you see this? Please share it here.

 

[AmitiSajar]

What I mean is that abuse of clicks and botting ads / offers is fraud and what that means, you might not get paid at all.

What's the matter with views if you can't cash out?

I don't know how it is on that site called linkvertise, but probably they have net 7 or net 30 and that's for a reason...

You have it here
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/linkvertise.1570776/#post-17331594

You post roblox scripts on youtube and use that link shortener, but... payment is so low you'll barely make money and accounts will be too expensive.
There are better monetization models like CPA / content locking. Although CPA requires a ton of work and serious setup these days, so it might not be interesting to most people.

yeah im thinking about going down the content locking path, do you recommend me go to the jointpartner path to find a marketer or do you think its unfair for them?

 

[AmitiSajar]

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Where did you see this? Please share it here.

it was a paid course of like 73$, i wanted to buy it but dont have enough

 

[OccultKingdoms]

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it was a paid course of like 73$, i wanted to buy it but dont have enough

If a course seller says something, it's a lie 99% of times.

There's a few legit course sellers.

yeah im thinking about going down the content locking path, do you recommend me go to the jointpartner path to find a marketer or do you think its unfair for them?

I don't do any joint ventures. If someone wants something from me, they just do an exchange with me.

Marketing is worth a lot more than software. You can buy software. Marketing you have to work for it.

Most software you'll find is not very well marketed. If something is well marketed, it's worth billions.

 

[uncutu]

try it out. worst case scenario you waste your time and they ban your account.

 

[Monzani]

It seems that it is too much work for a few peanuts

 

[alonelywriter]

Most websites have filters to detect botting and will give you less return than what a real click can give. So It is a waste of time.

 

[AmitiSajar]

I don't do any joint ventures. If someone wants something from me, they just do an exchange with me.

Marketing is worth a lot more than software. You can buy software. Marketing you have to work for it.

Most software you'll find is not very well marketed. If something is well marketed, it's worth billions.

Well i could try that. Of trying to exchange something (like developing an app for a marketer) but he teaches me how to get traffic or drives traffic.

 

[OccultKingdoms]

Well i could try that. Of trying to exchange something (like developing an app for a marketer) but he teaches me how to get traffic or drives traffic.

No need for an app. Cloaking + landing page + distribution of many sites on many domains is enough in most cases.

 

[AmitiSajar]

No need for an app. Cloaking + landing page + distribution of many sites on many domains is enough in most cases.

what is cloaking and distribution of many sites on many domains?

 

[uncutu]

what is cloaking and distribution of many sites on many domains?

cloaking is obfuscating your referrer and in more broader scope hiding where traffic is coming from. its pretty deep of a topic and takes more than a simple paragraph to effectively execute.
distribution is what it sounds like. if you send 100% of traffic from the same link, that may be suspicious and lead to termination. so you set up multiple links/domains. just like if you were to do fraud on a cpa offer and have 100% CR. you stick out like a sore thumb.
ultimately you are describing fraud method, so if you are to wish to execute it successfully without termination, you have to take a lot of precautions to minimize your detection. hopefully the pdf you bought mentioned some tricks. you cant just go straight to the path of least resistance on fraud traffic with 0 experience. you'll get terminated before your first payout.
i see so many threads on bhw with newbie members think they find the jackpot method by completing their own cpa offers and similar tricks with fake traffic. if they only knew the complexities to get away with such things. like Socrates says, "you don't know what you don't know".
my 2 cents, don't even think about it and focus your knowledge and time on something else. you'll be glad you did.

 

[AmitiSajar]

cloaking is obfuscating your referrer and in more broader scope hiding where traffic is coming from. its pretty deep of a topic and takes more than a simple paragraph to effectively execute.
distribution is what it sounds like. if you send 100% of traffic from the same link, that may be suspicious and lead to termination. so you set up multiple links/domains. just like if you were to do fraud on a cpa offer and have 100% CR. you stick out like a sore thumb.
ultimately you are describing fraud method, so if you are to wish to execute it successfully without termination, you have to take a lot of precautions to minimize your detection. hopefully the pdf you bought mentioned some tricks. you cant just go straight to the path of least resistance on fraud traffic with 0 experience. you'll get terminated before your first payout.
i see so many threads on bhw with newbie members think they find the jackpot method by completing their own cpa offers and similar tricks with fake traffic. if they only knew the complexities to get away with such things. like Socrates says, "you don't know what you don't know".
my 2 cents, don't even think about it and focus your knowledge and time on something else. you'll be glad you did.

i didnt mentioned buying a PDF, but thanks for explaining to me what it means. I could try my luck and post a thread asking for someone to help me through my journey knowingly that i will receive negative comments about it.

 

[uncutu]

fraud methods are short lived and you're really only cheating yourself
the same time spent learning legit method will benefit you for years to come.
you're likely going to be flamed making new thread but usually its network opportunity for other people who are doing same fraud stuff to DM you. just don't fall into trap of blind leading the blind.

 

[AmitiSajar]

fraud methods are short lived and you're really only cheating yourself
the same time spent learning legit method will benefit you for years to come.
you're likely going to be flamed making new thread but usually its network opportunity for other people who are doing same fraud stuff to DM you. just don't fall into trap of blind leading the blind.

is there anyway i could avoid getting flamed by making a new thread? and yeah i've already experienced that of blind leading blind. I will be more cautious of my DMs and their offers.
about the time spent learning legit methods i could try and seek groups of people who need small helps with coding (in the range worth of 10$ to 200$) because i know i dont have enough experience to join complex Software Development projects.

 

[OccultKingdoms]

If you want to write software, all your software and your functions need to do is return values specified by tests.
That's the only work a developer at a normal company has to do.

If you want to do something more, think of system design, database design and stuff. In this case you'll have to be more open minded and think more broadly.

Being just a developer who creates websites doesn't take much experience. But it's not gonna yield big cash (probably $30k / year in the US).
You can do some websites using WordPress templates. That's easy.

If you find a civilized job, there'll be a guy who will mentor you and he will review your code correcting your mistakes. It's just matter of hard work.

 

[AmitiSajar]

If you want to write software, all your software and your functions need to do is return values specified by tests.
That's the only work a developer at a normal company has to do.

If you want to do something more, think of system design, database design and stuff.

Being just a developer who creates websites doesn't take much experience. But it's not gonna yield big cash (probably $30k / year in the US).
You can do some websites using WordPress templates. That's easy.

rn im just looking to save up 500$-1,000$ as fast as possible. I'm also speak spanish, know how to make logos and designs & probably have some other ability i didnt knew was useful.