301 redirect backlinks worth it?

[loveseeker78]

Some people offer backlinks from high DA DR sites such as CNN FORBES ...Etc through 301 redirects. Do you think it is worth it? is there any potential risks?

 

[Mister Digital]

yes! Check the expired domain that you are getting the redirect from

 

[tiiberius]

Do you mean expired domain with such backlinks or redirecting a page from CNN directly to your website?

If the latter I would be carefully.

Never done that myself but seems sus.

 

[loveseeker78]

Do you mean expired domain with such backlinks or redirecting a page from CNN directly to your website?

If the latter I would be carefully.

Never done that myself but seems sus.

What I mean is a service you find here on BHW offered by some sellers offering to get you backlinks from top sites for cheap price ( via redirects)

 

[tiiberius]

What I mean is a service you find here on BHW offered by some sellers offering to get you backlinks from top sites for cheap price ( via redirects)

I personally would not go for that honestly. Seems very unnatural too me.

Might be working fine now but long-term results are questionable.

You are more than welcome to test it. It would be appreciated.

 

[nomnom88]

What I mean is a service you find here on BHW offered by some sellers offering to get you backlinks from top sites for cheap price ( via redirects)

What if the seller cancel the redirect? it will affect your website and lower your current rank

 

[Skaylet]

with few things the watch out they are still extremely effective :

- always use a bridge website between your 301 and your money site (not give 301 directly to your main page )
- check where this 301 site get their links important thing more than DA PA DR is the category and links they getting
- always redirect to one of your blog pages article written especially with that subject is super beneficial

 

[nomnom88]

always use a bridge website between your 301 and your money site (not give 301 directly to your main page )

can you explain in more detail about this? bc all I know 301 is always to moneysite like domain A - B - C - D (current domain) and not like A - D, B - D, C - D,

 

[Skaylet]

can you explain in more detail about this? bc all I know 301 is always to moneysite like domain A - B - C - D (current domain) and not like A - D, B - D, C - D,

Sure thing, here are some additional information to filling the gaps

Latest core update March 2024 - Google specifically declared 301 will be devalued from now on but according to our data no such thing Google selling smoke again to letting know seo professionals build your links in natural way that being said for google`s end its kinda impossible to do why ? simple they have scan and ranked all the previous 301 linking structure on the web also how could they justified 301 redirection done as black hat seo purpose ?

so they just declared like this is what we wanted but not technically possible to clarify or determine the intention of the user. (Our data comes from 10k+ websites we build and operate at the moment)

When it comes to

A - D, B - D, C - D,

This scheme

Simply breaking the pattern and in a normal world I mean in a natural usage of redirect, you don`t give your redirect to main page you are giving the relevant article right ? so there is also another beneficial outcome for this kind of scheme:

What we called 301 Redirect method also being used for de-indexing from Google btw. simply eliminate the pattern and make it look more natural and having a benefit of eliminating spam links or ranking in a way we used this method in our Quickblog framework heavily.

Im sharing below the method as an example but principle are the same for this scheme and redirect bridge :

To recover from a longer-lasting Google penalty and address spam scores and indexing issues, follow these steps this is called 301 Redirect Method :

1. Purchase Two Domains:​

2. • Buy a new domain for your website’s new address.
   • Purchase a second domain that will act as a bridge to resolve spam scores and penalties while transferring the authority from your old website.

3. Implement 301 Redirects:​

4. • After buying the domains, set up a 301 redirect from your original website to the bridge domain.
   • Then, set up another 301 redirect from the bridge domain to your new website domain.

By following this method, you can avoid significant penalties and indexing issues altogether. Our analysis has shown an estimated 86% increase in organic keyword rankings and approximately a 35% increase in traffic within the first two months.

This strategy not only resolves penalties and indexing issues but also helps retain and transfer the authority of your previous website to the new domain, aiding in a smoother transition and better performance in search results.



+++ also ask yourself why suddenly your main page answer to many websites no longer operational ? Google noticing this !


Best Regards,

 

[RMX]

It's a risky move. It might initially boost your ranking and suitable for short term but not for long term.

 

[Skaylet]

It's a risky move. It might initially boost your ranking and suitable for short term but not for long term.

Definetely agree !

forgot to add

Timing of this redirections in every 10-14 days not more than one redirection shouldn`t be made

but most importantly Category of the expired domains and the links they getting needs to be match your money site there is a reverse effect if you don`t do this properly could lower your topical authority score overall also the Domain Rating of your money site.

 

[Cristof Oropagani]

Definitely yes! I agree with everyone in the thread

 

[nomnom88]

but most importantly Category of the expired domains and the links they getting needs to be match your money site there is a reverse effect if you don`t do this properly could lower your topical authority score overall also the Domain Rating of your money site.

definitely agree with this because I already experience this, my domain rank decrease because the link is not related to my site

Timing of this redirections in every 10-14 days not more than one redirection shouldn`t be made

but how did you come up with this number? can you explain why I shouldn't do 301 redirect in a short period of time?

 

[Stifmeister]

Sure thing, here are some additional information to filling the gaps

Latest core update March 2024 - Google specifically declared 301 will be devalued from now on but according to our data no such thing Google selling smoke again to letting know seo professionals build your links in natural way that being said for google`s end its kinda impossible to do why ? simple they have scan and ranked all the previous 301 linking structure on the web also how could they justified 301 redirection done as black hat seo purpose ?

so they just declared like this is what we wanted but not technically possible to clarify or determine the intention of the user. (Our data comes from 10k+ websites we build and operate at the moment)

When it comes to

This scheme

Simply breaking the pattern and in a normal world I mean in a natural usage of redirect, you don`t give your redirect to main page you are giving the relevant article right ? so there is also another beneficial outcome for this kind of scheme:

What we called 301 Redirect method also being used for de-indexing from Google btw. simply eliminate the pattern and make it look more natural and having a benefit of eliminating spam links or ranking in a way we used this method in our Quickblog framework heavily.

Im sharing below the method as an example but principle are the same for this scheme and redirect bridge :

To recover from a longer-lasting Google penalty and address spam scores and indexing issues, follow these steps this is called 301 Redirect Method :

1. Purchase Two Domains:​

2. • Buy a new domain for your website’s new address.
   • Purchase a second domain that will act as a bridge to resolve spam scores and penalties while transferring the authority from your old website.

3. Implement 301 Redirects:​

4. • After buying the domains, set up a 301 redirect from your original website to the bridge domain.
   • Then, set up another 301 redirect from the bridge domain to your new website domain.

By following this method, you can avoid significant penalties and indexing issues altogether. Our analysis has shown an estimated 86% increase in organic keyword rankings and approximately a 35% increase in traffic within the first two months.

This strategy not only resolves penalties and indexing issues but also helps retain and transfer the authority of your previous website to the new domain, aiding in a smoother transition and better performance in search results.



+++ also ask yourself why suddenly your main page answer to many websites no longer operational ? Google noticing this !


Best Regards,

This is explained very confusingly

So to profit and not receive penalties from expired or risky 301 domains you have to

Purchase two new domains, next to your moneysite, looking like this:
Boostdomain,com
Bridgedomain,com
Moneysite,com

You 301 everything to bridgedomain,com and then redirect bridgedomain,com to boostdomain,com

Once that is done, the seo juice cam be harvested by redirecting boostdomain,com to moneysite, com

And you are saying this will yield the most results and avoid penalties long term?

 

[Skaylet]

definitely agree with this because I already experience this, my domain rank decrease because the link is not related to my site

but how did you come up with this number? can you explain why I shouldn't do 301 redirect in a short period of time?

Based on our Quickblog CMS framework stats we have the oppurtunity to A B C D E testing... till thousands
We calculated as 3 indexing/crawl cycles our site network getting crawl average 2-5 days (they also share backlinks with each other) so on average 3 cycles means at least 10 days maximum of 15 but if your site having longer period calculate as 3 x ( crawl request ) is should be your lowest timeframe to redirect again.

This is explained very confusingly

So to profit and not receive penalties from expired or risky 301 domains you have to

Purchase two new domains, next to your moneysite, looking like this:
Boostdomain,com
Bridgedomain,com
Moneysite,com

You 301 everything to bridgedomain,com and then redirect bridgedomain,com to boostdomain,com

Once that is done, the seo juice cam be harvested by redirecting boostdomain,com to moneysite, com

And you are saying this will yield the most results and avoid penalties long term?

And you are saying this will yield the most results and avoid penalties long term?


In our SEO result it did and for some custom work we did also solved a big problem with lots of spammy backlinks and it cost around 600 USD to the person but problem solved with organic keywords increase and traffic increase also monitored after 40 days and keep climbing.

Best Regards,

 

[nomnom88]

Once that is done, the seo juice cam be harvested by redirecting boostdomain,com to moneysite, com

is the picture like this? so if I want to redirect expired domain or risky 301 I just redirect it to domain E? if my moneysite want to redirect it just normal redirect 301 right?

 

[Stifmeister]

is the picture like this? so if I want to redirect expired domain or risky 301 I just redirect it to domain E? if my moneysite want to redirect it just normal redirect 301 right?

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@Skaylet is this what you tested that works?

 

[Skaylet]

Sorry for cruel drawing I`m on the go now but that is correct

Here is the graph I drawed its the same nomnom did

Let me share you the exceptions :

Depends on the SEO type i mean SaaS , News , Blog etc. layout in general should be the same

What could be the exceptions ? you can do un-effected articles or pages directly A-C (But not recommended !! just sharing as an option if you have good traffic page)

*307-302 redirect can be implement as exception

OLD Site (A) is your current site
Bridge Domain (B) the one domain you gonna use just for redirect but purchase something with same branding you can use later as PBN also ! after solved the rank issue
NEW SITE (C) is gonna be your new money site instead of A you will kept going with this from now on.

Please be careful about the B and C domains make sure shouldnt be used before check wayback machine !

Also food for thought for B (again not recommended cause I didnt tested before but if you do please let me know ) for B start with expired domain ? maybe

Thanks

 

[BuildMoreLinks]

This is explained very confusingly

So to profit and not receive penalties from expired or risky 301 domains you have to

Purchase two new domains, next to your moneysite, looking like this:
Boostdomain,com
Bridgedomain,com
Moneysite,com

You 301 everything to bridgedomain,com and then redirect bridgedomain,com to boostdomain,com

Once that is done, the seo juice cam be harvested by redirecting boostdomain,com to moneysite, com

And you are saying this will yield the most results and avoid penalties long term?

why do you think the penalties will not be carried forward even when you are using boost domain or bridge domains?

A 301 is a 301, as it carries the link juice forward, it also carries the old penalties irrespective of how many bridges or boosting domains you use.

 

[Stifmeister]

why do you think the penalties will not be carried forward even when you are using boost domain or bridge domains?

A 301 is a 301, as it carries the link juice forward, it also carries the old penalties irrespective of how many bridges or boosting domains you use.

All of this is speculation.

Frankly, im not so sure penalties carry over to new domain. If that were the case, it would be weaponized against competition. I would have an array of spam\blacklisted\penalized domains and would redirect them to my competitors.

I have never seen a case study of this actually having any effect whatsoever. The entire seo industry is speculation to me.

I really liked a case study here on bhw regarding shared hosting vs dedicated ip. It actually was scientific. This entire thread is just he said she said...