AffiliateGhost69
Newbie
- Jan 17, 2024
- 37
- 33
Hey BHW,
I just wanted to share my recent bad experience with this third class company called CrakRevenue. This is probably the most inferior and funny mates in the whole adult affiliate industry nowadays. Honestly, they just don't respect their affiliates and they steals them by shaving leads and sales, by cutting their referrals after a while and by keeping enormous margins or even by blocking payment of affiliates for no reason. I talked to some affiliates there and lots of them are just starting to move their traffic over to other networks as Crakrevenue can't be trusted anymore with their bad affiliate managers and overall performances that has declined a lot in the past year. How can they even pretend to be expert in affiliate marketing when they have absolutely no good AMs and only newbies with HUGE turnover? How can they say they're on top of the game when they use an old tracking system called HasOffer that is sooo limited? How can they say they're the best when they do not have any exclusive or in-house deals and low payouts (they'll tell you they have, like Jerkmate but it's BS)? And why aren't they answering the truthful comments/reviews made on them on the different blogs and review sites? Is it because the truth surface with big affiliates telling the real facts and they have absolutely no arguments?
So I've did some tests there recently and from what I heard in the past, it was actually good and they had very trustable affiliate managers. From the ones that affiliates mentionned to me there was Simon, Raph, Alex, PDV and Gui). But why none of them are there anymore? People are complaining you'll be talking to some dumb support agents that knows absolutely nothing about adult affiliate marketing... So I decided to test by my own and I've got some message from a dude there (not gonna say any name) typing for like 25 minutes on Skype, sending me a template and telling me that my traffic doesn't convert enough, so they had to lower my payout. Fair enough, happens sometimes, no problem I get that. Maybe a bad timing or just a bad traffic sources, but I find it quite odd that they lower payouts or ask to cut offers after only such a small test and budget. Aren't they supposed to have deep pockets like they pretend to be and aren't they supposed to be the best and profesionnals lol? Just find a good way to monetize the traffic if you're that good, I'm not sending shitty traffic... So anyway, lowering payouts and cutting sources is part of the CPA model, totally get that. Then,aA week later, the guy comes back to me telling me now telling me my leads we're fraud... How can they even say this when this exact same traffic I've been sending elsewhere for years has absolutely no problem? I'm not fraud, they are, it's simple! Oh and it's so funny how it fits when it's time to pay (cause no payment at all was sent). I pushed these kind of campaigns for years on CPL, CPS and RevShare payout models with other brands without a-n-y single problem! You call me fraud?
Fraudulent traffic? What does that mean CR lol? The AM there couldn't even give me a reasonable answer or reason. Editing and deleting his messages all the time cause what he was saying made no sense. Anyway, I don't even need a stupid AM to answer my own questions for this case. I know the answer, it's because the brand I've been testing, called JerkMate is sooo bad lol. It's simply a white label of Streamate..! Why are they bragging so much about that cam brand there? I thought it was a cool brand, but it's not! The registration and subcription flow are not well done and it's a shit brand sorry haha! The models are not active and so ugly damn! How do you want users to spend when these ugly ass cam models are smoking/texting and doing nothing for hours?! This is call bad spendings, ok, happens, but why do you call this fraud and don't want to pay the traffic because it did not convert (isn't this supposed to be CPA)? This stupid little pink and blue robot that is supposed to be there to help you lol. You realize it's nothing more than an ugly skin of Streamate? Same as their dashboard with this green whale - follow the whale. Follow what? Idiots that knows nothing at all about what they're doing? Sure! From what I saw, with this old dashboard, impossible to optimize or ask payout bumps per source, set multiple flows and payouts per country at the same time or even work through API correctly... And above all, talking to robots or noobs that gives you random answers. I'm sick of this kind of networks pretending to be pros of the industry, while they have a bad support and trying to hypnotize you with their fancy marketing methods. It's because of such network why global affiliate marketing is not going well at the moment or even some people doubt to join this world because of fraudster like them. What is the hype with this network and their good reviews? Are they deleting the bad reviews and making their own good reviews or what? I can't believe that shit.
So they put all their energy on that brand called Jerkmate and cut all affiliates as soon as traffic is not good? This is CPA, I guess they don't understand the model (they must think every lead needs to turn into sale and spending lol, how dumb is that). They need like crazy users' value - like if all users are whales or what? They're so scared of Streamate and loosing their deals with them that they play police all the time everywhere. They give small caps, small payouts and ask to cut after like 18 leads has been done without a sale lol... How do you want to work with such budget in a short term? Oh and as soon as an affiliate starts to do tooooo good, or even beat their media buy team or their own organic traffic team, they'll call you fraud or ban you for no valuable reason and won't pay you. You guys a trippin if you think you'll get through this without any problem. You're not helping anybody in the industry and your under-paying affiliates, keeping the money for you! It's a question of time before something big happens to this network, I'm telling you. At the beginning while testing, I found the dash nice and smooth and I was like - why so much hate torwards Crak? They used to be good if I remember, with cool brands and people, well no, now I understand all the hate! I've tested and never got such a bad service in the whole industry, never. The performances are poor and there is no reason to send your traffic there. They are stealers, like real ones, because they will not steal directly in your face, they'll take malicious ways and start to shave you and tell you they're are honnest, while they're not. They'll find ways to cut your leads or copy your methods or block you from anything as soon as it puts them down. And anyways, about performances, the EPCs you see there are not real and they do boost their stats with their own media buy team and organic traffic to make it look like JerkMate is big, but it's not (just compare all the cam sites in the industry you'll see it's from number 1). Also, they don't count certain cliks to make your EPCs look better than competition, so easy to know lol. There are far better cam brands in the industry, like Chaturbate, CamSoda, BongaCams, Flirt4Free, Stripchat or even niche brands like Imlive which all have their affiliate programs.
If it's not cam or dating offers or if nothing at all works there, what will they try to sell you? These spammy fake OnlyFans offers paid RevShare that are not working? From what I heard, they're limited in term of models and anyway they don't pay lol. Why not go directly with OF agencies or networks specialized into that to promote the models? They will also try to sell you their other new projects, like their smartlinks that works like crap or CrakClicks (what is even that shit) or platform like FansRevenue haha. This one is even more than a joke (literally Streamate's models that promote directly affiliate links to get paid and then ask to these guys to spend during their private shows). It's just so funny how they'll say they're the best with their diferent ideas, their offers and their tools, while it's actually worth nothing. This network is D-E-A-D! Now I understand why people trash talk about them, unless I'm missing something good they're doing? I give lots of chances to people, but this is enough for this one lol. I really really don't get it, for me it was bad from A to Z and I don't need to push my traffic there, even though they still own me thousands of dollars. Just keep them poor broke ass network lol. This is how you must pay your staff with dirty money. I'll stick to other advertisers or networks, thank you!
So this was just my honnest review and experience with this bad network. However I'd be glad to read your point of view or similar experiences you've got there. Oh and I don't need these moderators' comments about how not true it is with all the lies and bullshit they'll say. And the same for these beginner affiliates telling me that Crakrevenue is so good and they got paid (yeah of course lol, it's a network for beginners and newbies, they need to make money on you until you understand the game - you're underpayed there! They need noobs to make their network survive). Beginners, imagine your traffic sent there, if you actually got paid, how much this company made on you and how much they're making fun of you. Therefor, send your traffic to good and serious advertisers and networks folks, not this kind of shitty/shady network. Oh and of course, always continue A/B test to all different networks, it will help your global results, but be aware of certain ones.
Peace!
I just wanted to share my recent bad experience with this third class company called CrakRevenue. This is probably the most inferior and funny mates in the whole adult affiliate industry nowadays. Honestly, they just don't respect their affiliates and they steals them by shaving leads and sales, by cutting their referrals after a while and by keeping enormous margins or even by blocking payment of affiliates for no reason. I talked to some affiliates there and lots of them are just starting to move their traffic over to other networks as Crakrevenue can't be trusted anymore with their bad affiliate managers and overall performances that has declined a lot in the past year. How can they even pretend to be expert in affiliate marketing when they have absolutely no good AMs and only newbies with HUGE turnover? How can they say they're on top of the game when they use an old tracking system called HasOffer that is sooo limited? How can they say they're the best when they do not have any exclusive or in-house deals and low payouts (they'll tell you they have, like Jerkmate but it's BS)? And why aren't they answering the truthful comments/reviews made on them on the different blogs and review sites? Is it because the truth surface with big affiliates telling the real facts and they have absolutely no arguments?
So I've did some tests there recently and from what I heard in the past, it was actually good and they had very trustable affiliate managers. From the ones that affiliates mentionned to me there was Simon, Raph, Alex, PDV and Gui). But why none of them are there anymore? People are complaining you'll be talking to some dumb support agents that knows absolutely nothing about adult affiliate marketing... So I decided to test by my own and I've got some message from a dude there (not gonna say any name) typing for like 25 minutes on Skype, sending me a template and telling me that my traffic doesn't convert enough, so they had to lower my payout. Fair enough, happens sometimes, no problem I get that. Maybe a bad timing or just a bad traffic sources, but I find it quite odd that they lower payouts or ask to cut offers after only such a small test and budget. Aren't they supposed to have deep pockets like they pretend to be and aren't they supposed to be the best and profesionnals lol? Just find a good way to monetize the traffic if you're that good, I'm not sending shitty traffic... So anyway, lowering payouts and cutting sources is part of the CPA model, totally get that. Then,aA week later, the guy comes back to me telling me now telling me my leads we're fraud... How can they even say this when this exact same traffic I've been sending elsewhere for years has absolutely no problem? I'm not fraud, they are, it's simple! Oh and it's so funny how it fits when it's time to pay (cause no payment at all was sent). I pushed these kind of campaigns for years on CPL, CPS and RevShare payout models with other brands without a-n-y single problem! You call me fraud?
Fraudulent traffic? What does that mean CR lol? The AM there couldn't even give me a reasonable answer or reason. Editing and deleting his messages all the time cause what he was saying made no sense. Anyway, I don't even need a stupid AM to answer my own questions for this case. I know the answer, it's because the brand I've been testing, called JerkMate is sooo bad lol. It's simply a white label of Streamate..! Why are they bragging so much about that cam brand there? I thought it was a cool brand, but it's not! The registration and subcription flow are not well done and it's a shit brand sorry haha! The models are not active and so ugly damn! How do you want users to spend when these ugly ass cam models are smoking/texting and doing nothing for hours?! This is call bad spendings, ok, happens, but why do you call this fraud and don't want to pay the traffic because it did not convert (isn't this supposed to be CPA)? This stupid little pink and blue robot that is supposed to be there to help you lol. You realize it's nothing more than an ugly skin of Streamate? Same as their dashboard with this green whale - follow the whale. Follow what? Idiots that knows nothing at all about what they're doing? Sure! From what I saw, with this old dashboard, impossible to optimize or ask payout bumps per source, set multiple flows and payouts per country at the same time or even work through API correctly... And above all, talking to robots or noobs that gives you random answers. I'm sick of this kind of networks pretending to be pros of the industry, while they have a bad support and trying to hypnotize you with their fancy marketing methods. It's because of such network why global affiliate marketing is not going well at the moment or even some people doubt to join this world because of fraudster like them. What is the hype with this network and their good reviews? Are they deleting the bad reviews and making their own good reviews or what? I can't believe that shit.
So they put all their energy on that brand called Jerkmate and cut all affiliates as soon as traffic is not good? This is CPA, I guess they don't understand the model (they must think every lead needs to turn into sale and spending lol, how dumb is that). They need like crazy users' value - like if all users are whales or what? They're so scared of Streamate and loosing their deals with them that they play police all the time everywhere. They give small caps, small payouts and ask to cut after like 18 leads has been done without a sale lol... How do you want to work with such budget in a short term? Oh and as soon as an affiliate starts to do tooooo good, or even beat their media buy team or their own organic traffic team, they'll call you fraud or ban you for no valuable reason and won't pay you. You guys a trippin if you think you'll get through this without any problem. You're not helping anybody in the industry and your under-paying affiliates, keeping the money for you! It's a question of time before something big happens to this network, I'm telling you. At the beginning while testing, I found the dash nice and smooth and I was like - why so much hate torwards Crak? They used to be good if I remember, with cool brands and people, well no, now I understand all the hate! I've tested and never got such a bad service in the whole industry, never. The performances are poor and there is no reason to send your traffic there. They are stealers, like real ones, because they will not steal directly in your face, they'll take malicious ways and start to shave you and tell you they're are honnest, while they're not. They'll find ways to cut your leads or copy your methods or block you from anything as soon as it puts them down. And anyways, about performances, the EPCs you see there are not real and they do boost their stats with their own media buy team and organic traffic to make it look like JerkMate is big, but it's not (just compare all the cam sites in the industry you'll see it's from number 1). Also, they don't count certain cliks to make your EPCs look better than competition, so easy to know lol. There are far better cam brands in the industry, like Chaturbate, CamSoda, BongaCams, Flirt4Free, Stripchat or even niche brands like Imlive which all have their affiliate programs.
If it's not cam or dating offers or if nothing at all works there, what will they try to sell you? These spammy fake OnlyFans offers paid RevShare that are not working? From what I heard, they're limited in term of models and anyway they don't pay lol. Why not go directly with OF agencies or networks specialized into that to promote the models? They will also try to sell you their other new projects, like their smartlinks that works like crap or CrakClicks (what is even that shit) or platform like FansRevenue haha. This one is even more than a joke (literally Streamate's models that promote directly affiliate links to get paid and then ask to these guys to spend during their private shows). It's just so funny how they'll say they're the best with their diferent ideas, their offers and their tools, while it's actually worth nothing. This network is D-E-A-D! Now I understand why people trash talk about them, unless I'm missing something good they're doing? I give lots of chances to people, but this is enough for this one lol. I really really don't get it, for me it was bad from A to Z and I don't need to push my traffic there, even though they still own me thousands of dollars. Just keep them poor broke ass network lol. This is how you must pay your staff with dirty money. I'll stick to other advertisers or networks, thank you!
So this was just my honnest review and experience with this bad network. However I'd be glad to read your point of view or similar experiences you've got there. Oh and I don't need these moderators' comments about how not true it is with all the lies and bullshit they'll say. And the same for these beginner affiliates telling me that Crakrevenue is so good and they got paid (yeah of course lol, it's a network for beginners and newbies, they need to make money on you until you understand the game - you're underpayed there! They need noobs to make their network survive). Beginners, imagine your traffic sent there, if you actually got paid, how much this company made on you and how much they're making fun of you. Therefor, send your traffic to good and serious advertisers and networks folks, not this kind of shitty/shady network. Oh and of course, always continue A/B test to all different networks, it will help your global results, but be aware of certain ones.
Peace!
