What would be the most effective PBN backlink?

[dsteins4756]

Hey hey people, Dmitri here.

So, I've been testing with PBNs and concluded that they are not really worth it by themselves only.
They need tier building to be effective.
And here I thought, hey, what if I get backlinks from the domain homepage itself?
Since most PBNs have backlinks built to them anyway, I am thinking that a link from homepage would yield the most link juice.
I am testing out sitewide backlink at the moment, but honestly I don't know how much link juice I will be getting.
Is there a more effective way of utilizing PBNs so that you get the most out of them immediately?
I'm talking about a month or two. Like, should you just put your article with anchor text somewhere in the homepage?
Or just write an article regularly and tier build immediately?

TL;DR - What would be the ideal way to purchase PBN and link to your money site?

 

[GhostVision]

Hey hey people, Dmitri here.

So, I've been testing with PBNs and concluded that they are not really worth it by themselves only.
They need tier building to be effective.
And here I thought, hey, what if I get backlinks from the domain homepage itself?
Since most PBNs have backlinks built to them anyway, I am thinking that a link from homepage would yield the most link juice.
I am testing out sitewide backlink at the moment, but honestly I don't know how much link juice I will be getting.
Is there a more effective way of utilizing PBNs so that you get the most out of them immediately?
I'm talking about a month or two. Like, should you just put your article with anchor text somewhere in the homepage?
Or just write an article regularly and tier build immediately?

TL;DR - What would be the ideal way to purchase PBN and link to your money site?

I usually when I want to put a link on the homepage I choose the header menu.

The best option is to build your own PBN only from expired domains in your niche. But even so, it also requires guest posts on bigger sites in most cases.

 

[tazarbm]

And here I thought, hey, what if I get backlinks from the domain homepage itself?

that's the whole purpose of having a PBN link: to put it on the homepage where most of the authority is

Since most PBNs have backlinks built to them anyway, I am thinking that a link from homepage would yield the most link juice.

correct

I am testing out sitewide backlink at the moment, but honestly I don't know how much link juice I will be getting.

what the heck are sitewide backlinks?? You mean sidebar? If yes, then those links need content around them to be worth something, and they also need to be placed on good websites too, not just an autoblog with zero traffic and zero authority.

But I'm not sure how good sidebar links are (if that's what you mean by "sitewide")....

Is there a more effective way of utilizing PBNs so that you get the most out of them immediately?

yes...

1) own the PBN
2) only link to your own site(s) from the homepage so you can receive ALL of the link juice instead of sharing it with other websites
3) make sure the PBN is...
_3a) indexed
_3b) ranking and getting traffic
_3c) relevant
_3d) has good authority (DR)... 20 DR is the minimum, but 30-40 is recommended

I'm talking about a month or two. Like, should you just put your article with anchor text somewhere in the homepage?

a month or two what??

If it's your own PBN you could make a sticky post / section on the homepage and have the link in there. If it's someone else's PBN... well, I don't know in this case, I guess you depend on where that person wants to put your link, but if you're paying for that link and they don't give you the best value for the money karate the hell out of them

Or just write an article regularly and tier build immediately?

you can tier linkbuild whenever you want

TL;DR - What would be the ideal way to purchase PBN and link to your money site?

buy from someone that you trust and who knows what they're doing. Obvious, I know, but it's true

 

[dsteins4756]

I usually when I want to put a link on the homepage I choose the header menu.

The best option is to build your own PBN only from expired domains in your niche. But even so, it also requires guest posts on bigger sites in most cases.

So a link from the header gives the best link juice? I read from somewhere that having footer / header backlinks don't do something since google simply choose to ignore them.

what the heck are sitewide backlinks?? You mean sidebar? If yes, then those links need content around them to be worth something, and they also need to be placed on good websites too, not just an autoblog with zero traffic and zero authority.

But I'm not sure how good sidebar links are (if that's what you mean by "sitewide")....

Yes, I meant sidebar links, I'm not pretty sure why I wrote sitewide but that is what I meant. The sidebar links were placed at the niche relevant websites but I'm not really sure about authority since it doesn't have any traffics. It probably means I'm not getting much link juice then?
EDIT: One thing I'm really worried about rn is that by adding sidebar link it added like hundreds of backlinks from a single RD...

1) own the PBN
2) only link to your own site(s) from the homepage so you can receive ALL of the link juice instead of sharing it with other websites
3) make sure the PBN is...
_3a) indexed
_3b) ranking and getting traffic
_3c) relevant
_3d) has good authority (DR)... 20 DR is the minimum, but 30-40 is recommended

This part would be tricky, because I am currently working on building my own network, but still so far from achieving what I would want. Like, I don't have enough DR, ranking or traffic to justify using them as of right now.

a month or two what??

If it's your own PBN you could make a sticky post / section on the homepage and have the link in there. If it's someone else's PBN... well, I don't know in this case, I guess you depend on where that person wants to put your link, but if you're paying for that link and they don't give you the best value for the money karate the hell out of them

I meant to say a month or two to see some change in SERP. Well, its going to be hella tricky since I don't have my own network. Still, I will have to find a good way to pull this off.

Thank you very much for all your answers! I really appreciate it!

 

[GhostVision]

So a link from the header gives the best link juice? I read from somewhere that having footer / header backlinks don't do something since google simply choose to ignore them.

on a few small niches after I put the link in the header menu, sites moved quickly in google

 

[tazarbm]

Yes, I meant sidebar links, I'm not pretty sure why I wrote sitewide but that is what I meant.

all good! Both terminologies are correct, I just woke up a little grumpy

The sidebar links were placed at the niche relevant websites but I'm not really sure about authority since it doesn't have any traffics. It probably means I'm not getting much link juice then?

link juice / authority depends on backlinks, not on traffic.

Most of the time, sites with lots of traffic also have high authority too (because people link to those sites because they're popular, so they have good authority because of those links). But the opposite is not always true: you can have sites with good authority (because strong links are pointing to it), but zero traffic.

So, if you want to get link juice (which means authority, they're the same thing) you'll have to get links from pages that have good authority themselves. If you use Ahrefs to check the authority of the page you need to check the UR, if you use MOZ to check the authority you need to check the PA, and if you use Semrush... well, I don't know since I've never used Semrush, but they probably have a special metric that only analyzes pages instead of sites.

The thing with sidebar links is that - most of the time - they are not surrounded by content and google loves links surrounded by (relevant) content, which is why PBNs, guest posts and niche edits are usually the best links to have.

But if the sidebar links are surrounded by text then I guess they could be worth something (but I'm not sure as I've never cared about these links.)

Having / not having traffic doesn't impact the link juice, like I said, but having traffic is important because it's usually an indicator that the site exists to be a legitimate site (as opposed to existing for link building purposes).

If you had a choice of getting a link from a DR 30 website with no traffic or a DR 20 website with good traffic - and all things being equal - I would say go for the site with traffic (especially if the traffic is organic).

EDIT: One thing I'm really worried about rn is that by adding sidebar link it added like hundreds of backlinks from a single RD...

that's not a problem. All sites have sidebar links, if google were to penalize for this they'd have to penalize the entire internet

So you're fine, don't worry!

This part would be tricky, because I am currently working on building my own network, but still so far from achieving what I would want. Like, I don't have enough DR, ranking or traffic to justify using them as of right now.

tricky or not, it's how it should be. Owning and maintaining a PBN nowadays is brutally hard and expensive, which is why only the rich can afford it. Personally, I would give up on it, it will eat up all of your time, money and patience. Just buy 10-20 links from someone that's established and be done with the headaches!

I meant to say a month or two to see some change in SERP. Well, its going to be hella tricky since I don't have my own network. Still, I will have to find a good way to pull this off.

If the link is good and it gets indexed, and if your site is good and the keyword you're trying to rank for is not hard you should be able to see results within 2 weeks, so yeah, I think 1 month is OK.

But again, you need to index the links and you also need to point them to pages that have a chance of ranking (or to pages that need a boost in rankings from page 2 for example to page 1).

If you're going to buy / build 2-3 PBN links (even if they're good) to a keyword like "buy home insurance" for example.... yeah, I don't think this will work, some niches and keywords are way too competitive for any Tom, Dick and Harry to rank

PBN links are great (if they're done properly), but they're helluva expensive, I would say that you focus on guest posting and web 2.0s and other types of backlinks until you have a decent budget ($500+ per month for starters) to afford getting good links.

And the good news is that you can rank without backlinks initially and get some traffic (and hopefully some sales) that you can then invest into buying links, but you'd have to focus on keyword research and quality content to achieve this

Thank you very much for all your answers! I really appreciate it!

no problem