hexagonal
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My software dev agency, each account was setup to look legit for that niche.
[Journey] Building a private mass dm network again
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My software dev agency, each account was setup to look legit for that niche.
blackhathamza
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interested
vittorianicolosi1994
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Cool
hexagonal
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Update
Things are looking good spent 100$ in accounts and proxies and right now they're warming up slowly in an automated manner, will invest a few more hundred in the upcoming weeks until I get to 100k DMS per day.
Things are looking good spent 100$ in accounts and proxies and right now they're warming up slowly in an automated manner, will invest a few more hundred in the upcoming weeks until I get to 100k DMS per day.
Hi! I'm not interested on selling anything at the moment, I could give you free consultation on what you're building so you don't get overcharged or end up making things more complex.
hexagonal
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Update
Still testing the accounts from the first batch of multiple sellers that I got, some of the accounts were down before purchasing them, sticked with the best sellers.
Today I sent only 2.5k DMS as some accounts got down due to configuration mistakes/tests/ etc
Did some quick math and at this point could get the price of 1k DMS to 0.5-1.5 but still have to do ton of improvements to get to 0.5-1.5 range
Screenshot of some of the testing that I'm doing
Still testing the accounts from the first batch of multiple sellers that I got, some of the accounts were down before purchasing them, sticked with the best sellers.
Today I sent only 2.5k DMS as some accounts got down due to configuration mistakes/tests/ etc
Did some quick math and at this point could get the price of 1k DMS to 0.5-1.5 but still have to do ton of improvements to get to 0.5-1.5 range
Screenshot of some of the testing that I'm doing
vittorianicolosi1994
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Can i use the free trial subscription of "Dolphin-anti" on more than one device at same time using the Same internet connection ?
hexagonal
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For IG you can use 5-10 accounts per IP, device just rotate it
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/guides/the-latest-user-agent/android
vittorianicolosi1994
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I'm on PC and i already bought 10 headless PC for cheap.
hexagonal
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Send me a DM with what you bought never heard about it tbh.
vittorianicolosi1994
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I can't dm you.
I bought Mac m1. The meaning of Headless Is without a monitor.
Tò connect tò It you Need "HDMI" plug attached into the PC and a client TO REMOTE CONTROL THE HOST(MAC)
MGSCentral
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Definitely following. Any updates my friend. Why did you quit your old bot network in the past, was it due to cost, or competition, or ect ?
HappyMonster
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Hi, first of all, I wish you good luck. Second, some advice, I have been automating insta for a while and working with clients, I left that to do spoty automation now.
The main complication that made me switch and probably you will have to deal with is IG rule differences between browser and mobile app.
The browser navigation is really strict to a point that automation is not efficient because you can send from 100 to 200 DMs/day from the app but on browser it´s hard to go farther than 50 per day.
The automation from browser is easy as you can use just selenium, however, things get harder if you want to emulate phone.
You need to use appium combined with android studio and a mobile OS image.
The problem is that the available images for virtual emulation are well known and Instagram can detect the blue print of all of them so you will need to use a custom one if you really want a quality bot.
Making a custom android is crazy, the open source code contains only 70% of the finished code required to run an OS, so you better use one OS that is ready to go, and modify parts of the code to change it´s blueprint.
I will keep an eye on this thread, feel free to ask any questions!
Cheers!
The main complication that made me switch and probably you will have to deal with is IG rule differences between browser and mobile app.
The browser navigation is really strict to a point that automation is not efficient because you can send from 100 to 200 DMs/day from the app but on browser it´s hard to go farther than 50 per day.
The automation from browser is easy as you can use just selenium, however, things get harder if you want to emulate phone.
You need to use appium combined with android studio and a mobile OS image.
The problem is that the available images for virtual emulation are well known and Instagram can detect the blue print of all of them so you will need to use a custom one if you really want a quality bot.
Making a custom android is crazy, the open source code contains only 70% of the finished code required to run an OS, so you better use one OS that is ready to go, and modify parts of the code to change it´s blueprint.
I will keep an eye on this thread, feel free to ask any questions!
Cheers!
hexagonal
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Hello!
I moved from puppeeter to reverse engineering the requests, took me a few hours as already had experience with it, you don't want to emulate phones as it requires a ton of memory to run them and a single change will break the whole process.
Saw a team trying to use selenium to automate ecommerce purchases and it was an endless fight, everyday you had something new broken or something needing manual input even tried with real devices in USA and it didn't make any sense it was a waste of money not sure if they have changed recently.
I already did reverse engineering on android app still trying iOS
Here's the guide to use proxyman to intercept android requests
https://www.alexschnabl.com/blog/ar...to-reverse-engineer-the-instagram-private-api
Using IOS will need this as a guide
https://github.com/merdw/iOS-Instagram-SSL-Pinning-Bypass
vittorianicolosi1994
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How do you made automation for real smartphone? Did you use adb? Appium?
hexagonal
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Update
Done
- Reached 4k DMS per day
- Research account creation to cut more costs
- Reduced ban rate of accounts
To be done
- Make own proxies
- Add multithreading to send 10k DMS per hour
- Reduce more the ban rate
- Invest 1k into accounts and proxies once I get a lower ban rate
Done
- Reached 4k DMS per day
- Research account creation to cut more costs
- Reduced ban rate of accounts
To be done
- Make own proxies
- Add multithreading to send 10k DMS per hour
- Reduce more the ban rate
- Invest 1k into accounts and proxies once I get a lower ban rate
HappyMonster
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What you mention of an endless fight with using selenium automation was my experience a couple of years ago when I had the software working fine.
Instagram changed something every week or every 2 days, on the other hand the fixes to adapt our software where easy to do, just annoying, but when you are selling the services of the software, you take it as a maintenance job.
You are right about the downs of emulating phones.
I didn´t try reverse engineering the app because I thought that that would be a really difficult task. (also because I never did that so I am unexperienced).
I was assuming that the API requests from the Instagram app would have some type of header encrypted to make Instagram know if they come from the real app.
Is it not like that?
Is it easy to fake the requests and make Instagram believe that they are coming from the app?
Seeing that it works I will give it a try in 1 month (now I am focused in automating for Spotify).
Thanks a lot for the guides you posted, I will read them all and comment on them, this is really valuable info.
HappyMonster
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I never ended up doing that, but I did some testing with Android Studio + adb + appium and it´s doable. Then I switched to a project that I thought it was more profitable.
However, getting the right OS, making Instagram run on it, and making it not suspicious to the eyes of Instagram takes time.
Even if you get to do all that you still have the problems commented by hexagonal
So if reverse engineering the requests is possible, I guess that is the way to go.
HappyMonster
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Congrats! That was really fast!
hexagonal
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If you can introduce changes fast in selenium and want to try with 100 accounts then give it another try
Instagram has a way to track your actions so you want to create a session and dump that session to your requests with that it's enough, yes it's not hard to do that however