Spotify stream farm questions

[linkinke03]

which distros for multiple artist?

 

[jamez401]

Probably sounds a bit like a newbie questions, but where do you source the songs/music to create the artist playlists?

 

[SoundCloudPro]

Hi,
I am currently in the process of creating 500 Spotify accounts manually across different ips and I’d like to use them to hopefully boost my future songs into the Spotify algorithm. All this will be done manually without a bot. The accounts will stream my songs and other songs in the genre and they will only stream my song once or twice in a day to make it look like real people. The problem is that I will be using free accounts and I’m worried that Spotify will detect this and will catch me for bot streaming as well as not putting my songs in the algorithm. Does anyone have any insights on the subject? Will Spotify catch be if I only use free accounts?

I would love to help you out here and give you the best advice I can on this subject.

Okay, so first I want to start off by giving you the music platforms I would recommend avoiding.
1). Apple Music
2). Spotify
3). Amazon Music
4). YouTube Music

These are the Top 4 that I would avoid trying to fraudulently stream as this will ultimately lead to getting zero payouts and getting your music taken down.

Let me explain,

So for Apple Music and even Amazon Music, if you try to bot and stream farm this it’s a pretty much a guarantee that they will ban you, get your music taken down from every other music platform as well and depending on your distributor they will likely, majority of the time withhold your royalties indefinitely.

Now with Spotify, this is very very complicated. To be able to successfully start a streaming farm you not only need to use a substantial amount of Premium paid accounts (not free accounts that are created using a bot) but you also need high quality rotating Residential/ Mobile 4/5g proxies with a very large pool of IPs. I’m not just talking about a few premium accounts either, I’m talking about spending thousands of dollars in legitimate paid for accounts.

Furthermore, if you choose to use phones, this is also going to be very expensive as you will need a substantial amount of phones. Or if you choose the bot programs, you still need to invest in a functioning bot program that utilizes protections to help avoid triggering flags that will get your artist streams marked as suspicious and thus fraudulent.

Spotify has evolved incredibly since 2020 and they have been actively focusing on fraudulent streaming activity and successfully made it their mission to prevent fake artists and those who are illegitimately inflating streams from getting any payouts. They will certainly either withhold your royalties or they will pay you out cents, a lot of the time even without taking down your music so that you keep doing what you are doing and spending money hoping to get a good payout. Trust me when I say, you will likely lose your investments and you will throw money down the drain if you peruse trying to bot on Spotify.

Just think it takes 3 months to get a payout on Spotify. In that 3 months say you spend $1,000 a month. So after 3 months you spent $3,000 and you are hoping to get a $6,000 payout. What will end up happening is you’ll get maybe if you’re lucky $20-$60 for example. And you will likely keep going because you think well they didn’t take down your music, maybe next month is when the big payout will hit.. Well 9.9/10 it won’t ever come. And so you will certainly be down and lose money.

For the beginners trying to get into bot farming, I would never recommend getting into something as complicated and complex as Spotify botting. Years ago before 2020 before there was massive influx of botters; it was profitable having a Spotify bot farm. But sadly, with how advanced Spotify has got with artificial streaming intelligence. The average Joe will not be able to beat their bot detection infrastructure.

There are however platforms out there that are much easier to game the system. That doesn’t require such a huge investment and that’s SoundCloud. This is coming from my own personal experience over the course of the years ever since early 2016-2017 when I first started getting into music bot farming. I’ve experienced the highs and lows. So take it from me, those are the platforms to avoid.

 

[pifxo48t]

I would love to help you out here and give you the best advice I can on this subject.

Okay, so first I want to start off by giving you the music platforms I would recommend avoiding.
1). Apple Music
2). Spotify
3). Amazon Music
4). YouTube Music

These are the Top 4 that I would avoid trying to fraudulently stream as this will ultimately lead to getting zero payouts and getting your music taken down.

Let me explain,

So for Apple Music and even Amazon Music, if you try to bot and stream farm this it’s a pretty much a guarantee that they will ban you, get your music taken down from every other music platform as well and depending on your distributor they will likely, majority of the time withhold your royalties indefinitely.

Now with Spotify, this is very very complicated. To be able to successfully start a streaming farm you not only need to use a substantial amount of Premium paid accounts (not free accounts that are created using a bot) but you also need high quality rotating Residential/ Mobile 4/5g proxies with a very large pool of IPs. I’m not just talking about a few premium accounts either, I’m talking about spending thousands of dollars in legitimate paid for accounts.

Furthermore, if you choose to use phones, this is also going to be very expensive as you will need a substantial amount of phones. Or if you choose the bot programs, you still need to invest in a functioning bot program that utilizes protections to help avoid triggering flags that will get your artist streams marked as suspicious and thus fraudulent.

Spotify has evolved incredibly since 2020 and they have been actively focusing on fraudulent streaming activity and successfully made it their mission to prevent fake artists and those who are illegitimately inflating streams from getting any payouts. They will certainly either withhold your royalties or they will pay you out cents, a lot of the time even without taking down your music so that you keep doing what you are doing and spending money hoping to get a good payout. Trust me when I say, you will likely lose your investments and you will throw money down the drain if you peruse trying to bot on Spotify.

Just think it takes 3 months to get a payout on Spotify. In that 3 months say you spend $1,000 a month. So after 3 months you spent $3,000 and you are hoping to get a $6,000 payout. What will end up happening is you’ll get maybe if you’re lucky $20-$60 for example. And you will likely keep going because you think well they didn’t take down your music, maybe next month is when the big payout will hit.. Well 9.9/10 it won’t ever come. And so you will certainly be down and lose money.

For the beginners trying to get into bot farming, I would never recommend getting into something as complicated and complex as Spotify botting. Years ago before 2020 before there was massive influx of botters; it was profitable having a Spotify bot farm. But sadly, with how advanced Spotify has got with artificial streaming intelligence. The average Joe will not be able to beat their bot detection infrastructure.

There are however platforms out there that are much easier to game the system. That doesn’t require such a huge investment and that’s SoundCloud. This is coming from my own personal experience over the course of the years ever since early 2016-2017 when I first started getting into music bot farming. I’ve experienced the highs and lows. So take it from me, those are the platforms to avoid.

I wonder, if I start streaming should i also add comments to my own songs on soundcloud?

 

[SoundCloudPro]

I wonder, if I start streaming should i also add comments to my own songs on soundcloud?

Yes, I would recommend a proper ratio of Likes, follows, reposts and comments. This will make it so that it appears legitimate. Someone would easily be able to tell if an artist is botted just from looking at the artist page alone. If you have little to no followers, you aren’t even following anyone; there are little likes and reposts along with little to no comments at all and the tracks are getting tens of thousand or hundreds of thousands of plays, then this would be a huge red flag and very unnatural.

So I would highly recommend along with streaming you need to use accounts, legitimate looking accounts to also do following, cross profile following, likes, reposts and commenting. You can have ChatGPT write a huge list of comments (if you don’t want to write customized comments yourself). But doing a natural looking ratio along with making sure that your artist profile looks legitimate ( adding profile picture, adding a bio, adding a banner, following other artists, etc etc). This all will help make sure that everything looks as legitimate as possible.

 

[adamantius]

Yes, I would recommend a proper ratio of Likes, follows, reposts and comments. This will make it so that it appears legitimate. Someone would easily be able to tell if an artist is botted just from looking at the artist page alone. If you have little to no followers, you aren’t even following anyone; there are little likes and reposts along with little to no comments at all and the tracks are getting tens of thousand or hundreds of thousands of plays, then this would be a huge red flag and very unnatural.

So I would highly recommend along with streaming you need to use accounts, legitimate looking accounts to also do following, cross profile following, likes, reposts and commenting. You can have ChatGPT write a huge list of comments (if you don’t want to write customized comments yourself). But doing a natural looking ratio along with making sure that your artist profile looks legitimate ( adding profile picture, adding a bio, adding a banner, following other artists, etc etc). This all will help make sure that everything looks as legitimate as possible.

Can I ask which platforms is easier to game as you mentioned? Maybe can you dm please?

 

[user10364]

I would love to help you out here and give you the best advice I can on this subject.

Okay, so first I want to start off by giving you the music platforms I would recommend avoiding.
1). Apple Music
2). Spotify
3). Amazon Music
4). YouTube Music

These are the Top 4 that I would avoid trying to fraudulently stream as this will ultimately lead to getting zero payouts and getting your music taken down.

Let me explain,

So for Apple Music and even Amazon Music, if you try to bot and stream farm this it’s a pretty much a guarantee that they will ban you, get your music taken down from every other music platform as well and depending on your distributor they will likely, majority of the time withhold your royalties indefinitely.

Now with Spotify, this is very very complicated. To be able to successfully start a streaming farm you not only need to use a substantial amount of Premium paid accounts (not free accounts that are created using a bot) but you also need high quality rotating Residential/ Mobile 4/5g proxies with a very large pool of IPs. I’m not just talking about a few premium accounts either, I’m talking about spending thousands of dollars in legitimate paid for accounts.

Furthermore, if you choose to use phones, this is also going to be very expensive as you will need a substantial amount of phones. Or if you choose the bot programs, you still need to invest in a functioning bot program that utilizes protections to help avoid triggering flags that will get your artist streams marked as suspicious and thus fraudulent.

Spotify has evolved incredibly since 2020 and they have been actively focusing on fraudulent streaming activity and successfully made it their mission to prevent fake artists and those who are illegitimately inflating streams from getting any payouts. They will certainly either withhold your royalties or they will pay you out cents, a lot of the time even without taking down your music so that you keep doing what you are doing and spending money hoping to get a good payout. Trust me when I say, you will likely lose your investments and you will throw money down the drain if you peruse trying to bot on Spotify.

Just think it takes 3 months to get a payout on Spotify. In that 3 months say you spend $1,000 a month. So after 3 months you spent $3,000 and you are hoping to get a $6,000 payout. What will end up happening is you’ll get maybe if you’re lucky $20-$60 for example. And you will likely keep going because you think well they didn’t take down your music, maybe next month is when the big payout will hit.. Well 9.9/10 it won’t ever come. And so you will certainly be down and lose money.

For the beginners trying to get into bot farming, I would never recommend getting into something as complicated and complex as Spotify botting. Years ago before 2020 before there was massive influx of botters; it was profitable having a Spotify bot farm. But sadly, with how advanced Spotify has got with artificial streaming intelligence. The average Joe will not be able to beat their bot detection infrastructure.

There are however platforms out there that are much easier to game the system. That doesn’t require such a huge investment and that’s SoundCloud. This is coming from my own personal experience over the course of the years ever since early 2016-2017 when I first started getting into music bot farming. I’ve experienced the highs and lows. So take it from me, those are the platforms to avoid.

What would you recommend other than physical phones? I was thinking about getting a VPS, downloading chrome, installing Session box chrome extension and importing a proxy into each session box. Then write a bot to auto login to a bunch of soundcloud accounts which each stream my music (which would be disitributed amongst several accounts) with variable times.

On the other hand, buying a bunch of phones each on a proxy and an autoclick app to stream the songs seems like a much simpler setup although more expensive.

I'm very new to this so trying to figure out the most optimal strategy.

 

[SoundCloudPro]

Can I ask which platforms is easier to game as you mentioned? Maybe can you dm please?

SoundCloud is by far the easiest music platform to game 100%. I would not ever recommend any beginners to try to bot Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music as you will lose your investment 9.9 times out of 10. Even if you managed to get a payout you will likely get your music taken down and more often than not the distributor will withhold the royalties indefinitely. I would just not recommend taking on that kind of risk, the risk vs reward makes it not worth it.

Now for SoundCloud on the other hand, you can get started with a minimal investment and you get paid faster than any other platform.
(Streams from December payout end of January, January streams pays out end of February). So it’s easy to get started and you can see a return on your investment a whole lot sooner.

 

[SoundCloudPro]

What would you recommend other than physical phones? I was thinking about getting a VPS, downloading chrome, installing Session box chrome extension and importing a proxy into each session box. Then write a bot to auto login to a bunch of soundcloud accounts which each stream my music (which would be disitributed amongst several accounts) with variable times.

On the other hand, buying a bunch of phones each on a proxy and an autoclick app to stream the songs seems like a much simpler setup although more expensive.

I'm very new to this so trying to figure out the most optimal strategy.

Yes, me personally I do not use an actual phone farm. I think this would be too difficult to manage on such a large scale ( would be okay on a smaller scale) however, it’s not needed as with advanced bot programs there wouldn’t be a need to use an actual phone farm. So I do use tons of RDPs to run the software on so it can be running non stop.

But for the bot if you decide to create one yourself, you will really want a developer to work on this as you will want features in the program that will help prevent bot detections. If you just had a click farm without using fingerprints, random human moments etc etc what will happen is that they will easily be able to detect this. So you will need to find a good bot to use ( which isn’t public that can be found on Google) or you will need a good developer to make one unless you can code and do it yourself.

I recommend reading some more of the other posts I’ve made here on BHW that explains something further in more details that can really help you get started.

 

[user10364]

Yes, me personally I do not use an actual phone farm. I think this would be too difficult to manage on such a large scale ( would be okay on a smaller scale) however, it’s not needed as with advanced bot programs there wouldn’t be a need to use an actual phone farm. So I do use tons of RDPs to run the software on so it can be running non stop.

But for the bot if you decide to create one yourself, you will really want a developer to work on this as you will want features in the program that will help prevent bot detections. If you just had a click farm without using fingerprints, random human moments etc etc what will happen is that they will easily be able to detect this. So you will need to find a good bot to use ( which isn’t public that can be found on Google) or you will need a good developer to make one unless you can code and do it yourself.

I recommend reading some more of the other posts I’ve made here on BHW that explains something further in more details that can really help you get started.

I read some of your other posts and saw you'll be offering services and mentorship in the near future. I'm interested in that once available but in the meantime wanted to start making some SoundCloud accounts. I read you can link a single bank account to 7 accounts. Does this raise any suspicion at all if all the accounts were created under the same IP address and bank account? I want to have some accounts up and ready with social media presence and generated music for now.

 

[SoundCloudPro]

I read some of your other posts and saw you'll be offering services and mentorship in the near future. I'm interested in that once available but in the meantime wanted to start making some SoundCloud accounts. I read you can link a single bank account to 7 accounts. Does this raise any suspicion at all if all the accounts were created under the same IP address and bank account? I want to have some accounts up and ready with social media presence and generated music for now.

Yes, what I do is use PayPal as the payment option. And with PayPal you can have a total of 7 email addresses linked to that 1 PayPal account.
So essentially, you can create 7 SoundCloud artist accounts per 1 PayPal account that you have. So you would need to create a business PayPal and a personal PayPal and right there you would be able to link 14 SoundCloud artists accounts. The obviously you would need to create more PayPal accounts in which you can have your family members and such create ones or go the black hat way and purchase accounts.

Now for creating the SoundCloud artist account specifically you can use an anti detect browser and then make sure to use like Mobile proxy or Residential proxy to create each artist account separately under a different IP. This will help to prevent any triggers that could alert suspicion. But as far as the payouts, since you will have a new email address on each account; it won’t be linked to other SC accounts. They can’t see on the backend that they are all being sent to the same PayPal account. Since it is being sent to the email address you put for the payout and each payout on every account will have a different email.

Hopefully that helps clears somethings up in regards to that.

 

[Gants-P]

A human = ip address,
A human = phone,
A human = comments/likes/follows

Replicate that and your no ones business.

 

[jamez401]

Hi,

Are you using AI to create the artist music to upload onto SoundCloud?

Thanks,

 

[user10364]

Yes, what I do is use PayPal as the payment option. And with PayPal you can have a total of 7 email addresses linked to that 1 PayPal account.
So essentially, you can create 7 SoundCloud artist accounts per 1 PayPal account that you have. So you would need to create a business PayPal and a personal PayPal and right there you would be able to link 14 SoundCloud artists accounts. The obviously you would need to create more PayPal accounts in which you can have your family members and such create ones or go the black hat way and purchase accounts.

Now for creating the SoundCloud artist account specifically you can use an anti detect browser and then make sure to use like Mobile proxy or Residential proxy to create each artist account separately under a different IP. This will help to prevent any triggers that could alert suspicion. But as far as the payouts, since you will have a new email address on each account; it won’t be linked to other SC accounts. They can’t see on the backend that they are all being sent to the same PayPal account. Since it is being sent to the email address you put for the payout and each payout on every account will have a different email.

Hopefully that helps clears somethings up in regards to that.

Would it be feasible to use separate bank accounts under the same name or would that raise suspicion? If one of my SoundCloud accounts were to be banned could they link the other accounts based on the name associated to those bank accounts? I'm permanently limited on paypal which is why I ask. I suppose I could get stealth accounts but would prefer to use separate bank accounts.

 

[user10364]

Yes, what I do is use PayPal as the payment option. And with PayPal you can have a total of 7 email addresses linked to that 1 PayPal account.
So essentially, you can create 7 SoundCloud artist accounts per 1 PayPal account that you have. So you would need to create a business PayPal and a personal PayPal and right there you would be able to link 14 SoundCloud artists accounts. The obviously you would need to create more PayPal accounts in which you can have your family members and such create ones or go the black hat way and purchase accounts.

Now for creating the SoundCloud artist account specifically you can use an anti detect browser and then make sure to use like Mobile proxy or Residential proxy to create each artist account separately under a different IP. This will help to prevent any triggers that could alert suspicion. But as far as the payouts, since you will have a new email address on each account; it won’t be linked to other SC accounts. They can’t see on the backend that they are all being sent to the same PayPal account. Since it is being sent to the email address you put for the payout and each payout on every account will have a different email.

Hopefully that helps clears somethings up in regards to that.

If I fail to get a paypal account I might just try to use virtual debit cards. That way I can use a random name and zip code when buying the soundcloud subscription.

But what about tax forms? Aren't all of the accounts filing a tax form under the same legal name? Can they not see that and link accounts if one gets banned?

 

[yotano211]

Spotify doesnt pay much, i think even for hundred thouand downloads or hearing, it pays pennies.​

 

[lukaig]

question for soundcloud lads. when would i see my earnings ? i know need around 45 days to pay so that alright but when would i see how much i earn this month ? i started this month too so end of it or this statistic need 45 days to sow up too ?

 

[Frenkiewiseguy]

Yes, what I do is use PayPal as the payment option. And with PayPal you can have a total of 7 email addresses linked to that 1 PayPal account.
So essentially, you can create 7 SoundCloud artist accounts per 1 PayPal account that you have. So you would need to create a business PayPal and a personal PayPal and right there you would be able to link 14 SoundCloud artists accounts. The obviously you would need to create more PayPal accounts in which you can have your family members and such create ones or go the black hat way and purchase accounts.

Now for creating the SoundCloud artist account specifically you can use an anti detect browser and then make sure to use like Mobile proxy or Residential proxy to create each artist account separately under a different IP. This will help to prevent any triggers that could alert suspicion. But as far as the payouts, since you will have a new email address on each account; it won’t be linked to other SC accounts. They can’t see on the backend that they are all being sent to the same PayPal account. Since it is being sent to the email address you put for the payout and each payout on every account will have a different email.

Hopefully that helps clears somethings up in regards to that.

hallo soundcloud, i m new i cant write you a pm...but i m very interested of your knowledge,if you have some time please write me...

 

[thelaststraw]

I am not quite sure what you guys are all talking about, doesn't Soundcloud have a user-centric payment model? If you all use free accounts it's still obv.

 

[Twez]

That's possible, but it's probably not very efficient. As far as I know the cheapest and best option is to get android phones.

Is it profitable tho? Let's say u have 50x phones, spotify pays 0.004 per stream. Let's say the song is 2m. In 24h you will be able to get 720 streams.

720 * 50 = 36000
36000 * 0.004 = $144
0.75 x 50 (proxies isp) = 37.5

144 / 2 (distrokid's cut)
72
72-37.5 = 34.5

You also have to charge the phones, maybe have premium on some, etc. This calculation took 30s so it's not the most accurate one. So do you think that $30 / day is worth it lol?