Casino aff's/ cloaking

[tristik]

Hey everyone,

I've been questioning myself a lot about how much money i can make with cloaking, i could say i mastered everything in this sphere as well as have everything to do it, however, i have never seen anyone talk about how much they are actually making. Recently i wanted to move onto casino aff's to try it out, and would appreciate it a lot if someone can give me a brief idea of how 'profitable' it is and what the return on investment is. I understand this is very vague, nevertheless there has to be an average estimate i believe.

Many thanks, your answer will be much appreciated!

 

[FunkyRanky]

That depends on how much are you able to scale it. The casino niche is very lucrative, you can invest 1k and get 3k, or you can invest 100k and get 1m in returns. None can give you proper estimates without some deeper research, like what market are you going to target, what kind of offers you promote, what deals you have( hybrid, RS, pure CPA) etc

 

[tristik]

That depends on how much are you able to scale it. The casino niche is very lucrative, you can invest 1k and get 3k, or you can invest 100k and get 1m in returns. None can give you proper estimates without some deeper research, like what market are you going to target, what kind of offers you promote, what deals you have( hybrid, RS, pure CPA) etc

thank you very much for your response! i want to cloak a casino affiliate with a budget of 1-3k monthly on adwords. My question is not how much i will make exactly because clearly this is very vague. My question is more like, will or will i not make profit if you know what i'm saying. In other words, will i lose money on this, or can i make it out the hood haha . I will have a 15% commission on RTA of 96-97%, which is average, although the comission is quite significant. Could you maybe recommend any better affiliate wsite if you know any better ones?

 

[FunkyRanky]

thank you very much for your response! i want to cloak a casino affiliate with a budget of 1-3k monthly on adwords. My question is not how much i will make exactly because clearly this is very vague. My question is more like, will or will i not make profit if you know what i'm saying. In other words, will i lose money on this, or can i make it out the hood haha . I will have a 15% commission on RTA of 96-97%, which is average, although the comission is quite significant. Could you maybe recommend any better affiliate wsite if you know any better ones?

Casino PPC affiliates usually work on high CPA, or hybrid deals. Now depending on the market that you are going to target, the range of offers can vary from $30 CPA ( Brazil for example) and to go up to $400-500 clean CPA for GEOs like Sweden, Germany and similar high-value t1 markets.

I usually work with hybrid deals, for example in the USA market I have $150 + 40% RS. Find brands that your competition is promoting, contact their affiliate managers directly and negotiate a deal.

 

[tristik]

Casino PPC affiliates usually work on high CPA, or hybrid deals. Now depending on the market that you are going to target, the range of offers can vary from $30 CPA ( Brazil for example) and to go up to $400-500 clean CPA for GEOs like Sweden, Germany and similar high-value t1 markets.

I usually work with hybrid deals, for example in the USA market I have $150 + 40% RS. Find brands that your competition is promoting, contact their affiliate managers directly and negotiate a deal.

so you are trying to say instead of me just having an affiliate link promotion, i contact them directly and ask for a 'better' deal? don't i have to prove their promotion team that i can actually advertise and get them people to play on their wsite? will i have to advertise my affiliate lik for a bit of time and them contact them as in like showing them the results/ my skills. Will me cloaking the campaign be in the way of them giving me this deal? i mean they know its BH, will they be bitches about it or do they not care? In other words how do i get this deal with them and what do i have to provide and do. Does the deal that the promotion team of any specific casino depend on the amount of traffic that you can bring them? Thank you.

 

[FunkyRanky]

so you are trying to say instead of me just having an affiliate link promotion, i contact them directly and ask for a 'better' deal? don't i have to prove their promotion team that i can actually advertise and get them people to play on their wsite? will i have to advertise my affiliate lik for a bit of time and them contact them as in like showing them the results/ my skills. Will me cloaking the campaign be in the way of them giving me this deal? i mean they know its BH, will they be bitches about it or do they not care? In other words how do i get this deal with them and what do i have to provide and do. Does the deal that the promotion team of any specific casino depend on the amount of traffic that you can bring them? Thank you.

Well, negotiation is one of the key skills in the affiliate business, so go for it, be creative and make them believe they will miss the opportunity to work with you and earn revenue.


Unlicensed operators do not care about BH traffic, and they provide better deals, keep that in mind. If they don't know you, they will probably give you test period of lets say 10-20 FTDs, so based on performance you can renegotiate new deal

 

[tristik]

Well, negotiation is one of the key skills in the affiliate business, so go for it, be creative and make them believe they will miss the opportunity to work with you and earn revenue.


Unlicensed operators do not care about BH traffic, and they provide better deals, keep that in mind. If they don't know you, they will probably give you test period of lets say 10-20 FTDs, so based on performance you can renegotiate new deal

i dont know how to thank you, you've helped me a lot, i really appreciate that! Also, if you dont mind telling me from your experience, what target audience is best for a crypto casino? Do i target countries, or cities? Is it the global North (wealth) like Sweeden or the US, or the Global South like Brazil, Nigeria, and so on...

 

[FunkyRanky]

i dont know how to thank you, you've helped me a lot, i really appreciate that! Also, if you dont mind telling me from your experience, what target audience is best for a crypto casino? Do i target countries, or cities? Is it the global North (wealth) like Sweeden or the US, or the Global South like Brazil, Nigeria, and so on...

Well if you are doing meta ads just pick interest groups like crypto and casino. With Google you stick to keywords, and don't forget to target an audience older than 25( deep pockets).

 

[tristik]

Well if you are doing meta ads just pick interest groups like crypto and casino. With Google you stick to keywords, and don't forget to target an audience older than 25( deep pockets).

Thank you so very much for your help Niko, I wish you all the best!

 

[BlackPillow]

Hi Tristik

I read your post with high interest and I think we should definitely get in contact somehow..

I know pretty well this industry form a Sales point of view and able to answer all your questions and maximise your skills and efforts.

That s a very rich niche, but it s expensive.. it s true you can make 3k out of 1k in just 1 day, but you need to know what you are doing first, or this 1k get lost in a blink of eye.. mistakes and luck of experience can be very expensive..

I m looking for someone with your skills and eventually create something strong together

 

[tristik]

Well if you are doing meta ads just pick interest groups like crypto and casino. With Google you stick to keywords, and don't forget to target an audience older than 25( deep pockets).

Greetings Niko, hope this message finds you well.

I started a P.Conversation with you earlier, however i am sensing you didn't see it or recieve it. I was wandering if you would be willing and able to help me with some other things please. Everything from the above (what you said) has helped me tremendously, and now I am on my final question, which i tried to research everywhere, including BHW. Enough said - I am very confused onn KeyWords in google ads, because recently i started a campaign, and was running ads without cloaking turned on, as well as full White KW. So, in order to get the largest amount of people, which specifically want to find a casino, obviously, the 'proper' keywords are the go-to. So I know that warming up the campaign and runnign white ads for 1-2 days is needed, and then switch to more black (gray) keywords, but still somewhat related to your whitepage. So i have many different blogs, which are hosted, and with everything ready to go (like the SSL for example). However, I do not kno, nor understand this transition of KW's from White to Black/ gray, and to what extent this conversation has to be because I obviously cannot just say 'play casinio' and I have to be smart with it in order to not get blocked and avoid blocked words on AdWrods.

Niko, your answer on this topic will be extremely appreciated, and would mean the world to me, since this is my 'last step'...

Best Regards to you,
-Tristik.

 

[Babymarketingyoda]

Hey, how did this go really interested!