TikTok Live Journey- Not Backing Down

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I wanted to share my TikTok Live Journey for my own benefit to document what I've tried, what has worked, and also to get any feedback from anyone that I haven't already shaken down for information on this site.

After seeing all the below threads and no solution come to, I decided to tackle this head on myself.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/my-tiktok-accounts-get-no-viewers-when-i-go-live.1509416/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewers.1467579/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/0-people-join-my-live-stream-on-tiktok-anyone-knows-why.1508008/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-issue.1486479/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-shadowban.1440347/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/#post-16689561

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewer.1489117/
Background
I've been making money on TikTok Live for about 2 years now through myself and my employees. We were steadily pulling a 1k concurrent live viewers per account and using this promotion to make around 20k a month. We had a few account bans here and there but were always able to bounce back no problem.

The Problem

About 3 months ago, we started facing heavy bans. No problem, it happens. But the issue we began to face is that when we would make a new account, it would reach 0 live viewers at all. The accounts were getting shadowbanned. I've detailed below the various solutions I've tried and thought of, how they went, or problems I anticipate with each of them.

The Solutions

Old Standard
What we did for 2 years, worked without a problem

1) Make a new account
2) Load it up with followers from Tikfuel/SocialWick/ect.
3) Go live
4) Receive hundreds of viewers
5) Profit

The Problem- TikTok has wised up to detecting these botted followers that come in all at once. 8/10 times, it results in the accounts being shadowbanned on lives, pulling in 0 viewers.

Push Through
Break the Shadowban, it can't last forever right?

1) Continue to go live for at least 30 minutes for several days/weeks in a row, despite 0 viewers
2) Continue posting and gaining real followers in the meantime.
3) The Shadowban will eventually expire/be broken and viewers will come
4) Profit

The Problem- The Shadowban can be permanent. If it can be broken, I haven't figured out a reliable way to do this. Out of probably a dozen accounts with this issue, we had ONE eventually start pulling viewers out of nowhere, and we can't figure out why. Without a reliable trusted way to break this, it's a lot of wasted time.

Live Bots
If we botted some of the live viewers, perhaps that would convince the algorithm to start showing us to real viewers

1) Have the botted viewers stay for half an hour
2) Real viewers come in after a while
3) Profit

Problem- Tiktok isn't fooled. The botted viewers to not bring real ones in, and TikTok doesn't even count them as individual viewers after the live is over. Big Fail.

Unbanning Successful Accounts
There has to be services of people I can pay to unban the accounts, right? If an account worked before, Iet's see if we can get it back.

1) Find people who unban TikTok accounts
2) Keep them from getting banned again
3) Keep going live with them
4) Profit

Problem- Scammers Only. I have not found a person who is actually able to accomplish this. I have only encountered scammers who claim do this service, if you've ever met someone who successfully achieved this for you, I'd love to hear it.

Drip Feed (Currently in progress)
Maybe if we slow feed the account followers, it won't be flagged as botted?

1) Slow drip a new account with 50 followers a day until it reaches 1k
2) Go Live
3) Receive live viewers
4) Profit

Anticipated Problem- Tiktok will still detect the followers as botted, and will still shadowban the account.

Organic (Currently in progress)
Alright, old fashioned way. Let's just get the real followers.

1) Make a new account
2) Post content until the account organically grows to 1k (We've been getting 50-150 a day)
3) Go live
4) These real followers must get the live notification and some of them join
5) This pushes the live to the FYP
6) Profit

Anticipated Problem- The account will be associated with previous accounts through metadata and be shadowbanned. It's being used on a 4g data network with a rotating IP so hopefully this isn't a problem, but we will see.

Proxies
A pandora's box of questions I can't answer

1) Set up proxies to run the accounts on
2) Use some sort of combination of the methods above to receive followers
3) Go Live
4) TIkTok sees me as a new user and pushes to the FYP
5) Profit

Anticipated Problem- From what I've been able to research, TikTok can simply choose to ignore the mobile proxy request. I have never used proxies for this purpose and there seems to be a lot of unanswered questions. VPNs will get your live immediately banned, and I'm worried the same will result from proxies. I've never set up a mobile proxy, and getting it all set up, with the amount of learning curve and money spent it will require, only for it to flop, is not an ideal prospect.


That's all I can think of for now. I will update every week or so with any changes, if you have any input, thoughts, experience, ect. I'd love to hear it.

Thanks for reading, best of luck to you all.
 
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Following, love this trial and error. I imagine views on videos are probably little to none on these same accounts as well? I think you need a mix of slow small amounts botted and organic. If its all bots and none of them are viewing your videos, then this tell tiktokt your content sucks and they won't push it past. What are you doing for organic if you don't mind me asking? I'm ngl i'm going to just use tokbackup and rip another pages videos and trim or put them together so tiktok sees it as original
 
Following, love this trial and error. I imagine views on videos are probably little to none on these same accounts as well? I think you need a mix of slow small amounts botted and organic. If its all bots and none of them are viewing your videos, then this tell tiktokt your content sucks and they won't push it past. What are you doing for organic if you don't mind me asking? I'm ngl i'm going to just use tokbackup and rip another pages videos and trim or put them together so tiktok sees it as original
The views on the videos are pitiful, but that's not really important. 300-1500 usually. I've been making fresh content only for the organic accounts. Myself and my employees each make short 10 second lip syncs or dancing videos, 5-6 a day. This has been netting the accounts 60-100 organic followers a day. We are sitting around 600-700 followers per account now and will try going live with them soon.

The drip feed account is keeping up at about the same speed and will be ready around the same time as the organic accounts so that will be an interesting comparison to make.

Will report back.
 
Those views are solid, usually goes through 3 levels 2-300, 6-900 and then 1-1.5k, after that its odd as a week later it can be pushed and go viral, or just sit there. Whats your point of going live?
 
I wanted to share my TikTok Live Journey for my own benefit to document what I've tried, what has worked, and also to get any feedback from anyone that I haven't already shaken down for information on this site.

After seeing all the below threads and no solution come to, I decided to tackle this head on myself.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/my-tiktok-accounts-get-no-viewers-when-i-go-live.1509416/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewers.1467579/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/0-people-join-my-live-stream-on-tiktok-anyone-knows-why.1508008/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-issue.1486479/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-shadowban.1440347/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/#post-16689561

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewer.1489117/
Background
I've been making money on TikTok Live for about 2 years now through myself and my employees. We were steadily pulling a 1k concurrent live viewers per account and using this promotion to make around 20k a month. We had a few account bans here and there but were always able to bounce back no problem.

The Problem

About 3 months ago, we started facing heavy bans. No problem, it happens. But the issue we began to face is that when we would make a new account, it would reach 0 live viewers at all. The accounts were getting shadowbanned. I've detailed below the various solutions I've tried and thought of, how they went, or problems I anticipate with each of them.

The Solutions

Old Standard
What we did for 2 years, worked without a problem

1) Make a new account
2) Load it up with followers from Tikfuel/SocialWick/ect.
3) Go live
4) Receive hundreds of viewers
5) Profit

The Problem- TikTok has wised up to detecting these botted followers that come in all at once. 8/10 times, it results in the accounts being shadowbanned on lives, pulling in 0 viewers.

Push Through
Break the Shadowban, it can't last forever right?

1) Continue to go live for at least 30 minutes for several days/weeks in a row, despite 0 viewers
2) Continue posting and gaining real followers in the meantime.
3) The Shadowban will eventually expire/be broken and viewers will come
4) Profit

The Problem- The Shadowban can be permanent. If it can be broken, I haven't figured out a reliable way to do this. Out of probably a dozen accounts with this issue, we had ONE eventually start pulling viewers out of nowhere, and we can't figure out why. Without a reliable trusted way to break this, it's a lot of wasted time.

Live Bots
If we botted some of the live viewers, perhaps that would convince the algorithm to start showing us to real viewers

1) Have the botted viewers stay for half an hour
2) Real viewers come in after a while
3) Profit

Problem- Tiktok isn't fooled. The botted viewers to not bring real ones in, and TikTok doesn't even count them as individual viewers after the live is over. Big Fail.

Unbanning Successful Accounts
There has to be services of people I can pay to unban the accounts, right? If an account worked before, Iet's see if we can get it back.

1) Find people who unban TikTok accounts
2) Keep them from getting banned again
3) Keep going live with them
4) Profit

Problem- Scammers Only. I have not found a person who is actually able to accomplish this. I have only encountered scammers who claim do this service, if you've ever met someone who successfully achieved this for you, I'd love to hear it.

Drip Feed (Currently in progress)
Maybe if we slow feed the account followers, it won't be flagged as botted?

1) Slow drip a new account with 50 followers a day until it reaches 1k
2) Go Live
3) Receive live viewers
4) Profit

Anticipated Problem- Tiktok will still detect the followers as botted, and will still shadowban the account.

Organic (Currently in progress)
Alright, old fashioned way. Let's just get the real followers.

1) Make a new account
2) Post content until the account organically grows to 1k (We've been getting 50-150 a day)
3) Go live
4) These real followers must get the live notification and some of them join
5) This pushes the live to the FYP
6) Profit

Anticipated Problem- The account will be associated with previous accounts through metadata and be shadowbanned. It's being used on a 4g data network with a rotating IP so hopefully this isn't a problem, but we will see.

Proxies
A pandora's box of questions I can't answer

1) Set up proxies to run the accounts on
2) Use some sort of combination of the methods above to receive followers
3) Go Live
4) TIkTok sees me as a new user and pushes to the FYP
5) Profit

Anticipated Problem- From what I've been able to research, TikTok can simply choose to ignore the mobile proxy request. I have never used proxies for this purpose and there seems to be a lot of unanswered questions. VPNs will get your live immediately banned, and I'm worried the same will result from proxies. I've never set up a mobile proxy, and getting it all set up, with the amount of learning curve and money spent it will require, only for it to flop, is not an ideal prospect.


That's all I can think of for now. I will update every week or so with any changes, if you have any input, thoughts, experience, ect. I'd love to hear it.

Thanks for reading, best of luck to you all.
Are you using USA sim? Have you tried fresh sim cards?
 
Are you using USA sim? Have you tried fresh sim cards?
I'm USA based, sorry for not including that. But yes, I'm using USA sims. The phones I have use E-sims, but I have older phones I could try getting new sim cards for. May add this as a next trial method if current trials fail.
 
So you aren't the one going live / not your account right, its the models account (well your controlling it and only thing she does is go live) correct?
 
So you aren't the one going live / not your account right, its the models account (well your controlling it and only thing she does is go live) correct?
I go live myself from time to time but I manage several girls' pages as well.

Update: The organic account is doing extremely well. I haven't tried the drip feed account yet, but that will be next.

Surprise, Surprise. Organic followers result in organic engagement.

This is an extremely tedious process as it took about 10 days to get enough followers to go live (Interestingly, I was granted the ability to go live after 920 followers, rather than 1000). I intend to look into means of building up organic followers more quickly over more accounts, so that when these accounts are banned we don't run into this dry spell again.
 
Why not buy an account with followers? If ur making enough investing some in the accounts should not be a problem.
 
Why not buy an account with followers? If ur making enough investing some in the accounts should not be a problem.
I've done this several times and has resulted in the same shadowban.
 
Same, I have bought accounts and they seem to end up useless. Though I think if you wait 2-3 weeks and use it like a normal person it will go away, though by that point you could have just gained 1k organic followers lol
 
You're moving traffic from tiktok live to only fans directly or using a funnel?
 
i didn't know you couldn't use VPNs to go live! great info! keep it up. interesting journey
 
I wanted to share my TikTok Live Journey for my own benefit to document what I've tried, what has worked, and also to get any feedback from anyone that I haven't already shaken down for information on this site.

After seeing all the below threads and no solution come to, I decided to tackle this head on myself.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/my-tiktok-accounts-get-no-viewers-when-i-go-live.1509416/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewers.1467579/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/0-people-join-my-live-stream-on-tiktok-anyone-knows-why.1508008/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-issue.1486479/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-shadowban.1440347/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-lives-getting-shadowbanned.1513315/#post-16689561

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tiktok-live-0-viewer.1489117/
Background
I've been making money on TikTok Live for about 2 years now through myself and my employees. We were steadily pulling a 1k concurrent live viewers per account and using this promotion to make around 20k a month. We had a few account bans here and there but were always able to bounce back no problem.

The Problem

About 3 months ago, we started facing heavy bans. No problem, it happens. But the issue we began to face is that when we would make a new account, it would reach 0 live viewers at all. The accounts were getting shadowbanned. I've detailed below the various solutions I've tried and thought of, how they went, or problems I anticipate with each of them.

The Solutions

Old Standard
What we did for 2 years, worked without a problem

1) Make a new account
2) Load it up with followers from Tikfuel/SocialWick/ect.
3) Go live
4) Receive hundreds of viewers
5) Profit

The Problem- TikTok has wised up to detecting these botted followers that come in all at once. 8/10 times, it results in the accounts being shadowbanned on lives, pulling in 0 viewers.

Push Through
Break the Shadowban, it can't last forever right?

1) Continue to go live for at least 30 minutes for several days/weeks in a row, despite 0 viewers
2) Continue posting and gaining real followers in the meantime.
3) The Shadowban will eventually expire/be broken and viewers will come
4) Profit

The Problem- The Shadowban can be permanent. If it can be broken, I haven't figured out a reliable way to do this. Out of probably a dozen accounts with this issue, we had ONE eventually start pulling viewers out of nowhere, and we can't figure out why. Without a reliable trusted way to break this, it's a lot of wasted time.

Live Bots
If we botted some of the live viewers, perhaps that would convince the algorithm to start showing us to real viewers

1) Have the botted viewers stay for half an hour
2) Real viewers come in after a while
3) Profit

Problem- Tiktok isn't fooled. The botted viewers to not bring real ones in, and TikTok doesn't even count them as individual viewers after the live is over. Big Fail.

Unbanning Successful Accounts
There has to be services of people I can pay to unban the accounts, right? If an account worked before, Iet's see if we can get it back.

1) Find people who unban TikTok accounts
2) Keep them from getting banned again
3) Keep going live with them
4) Profit

Problem- Scammers Only. I have not found a person who is actually able to accomplish this. I have only encountered scammers who claim do this service, if you've ever met someone who successfully achieved this for you, I'd love to hear it.

Drip Feed (Currently in progress)
Maybe if we slow feed the account followers, it won't be flagged as botted?

1) Slow drip a new account with 50 followers a day until it reaches 1k
2) Go Live
3) Receive live viewers
4) Profit

Anticipated Problem- Tiktok will still detect the followers as botted, and will still shadowban the account.

Organic (Currently in progress)
Alright, old fashioned way. Let's just get the real followers.

1) Make a new account
2) Post content until the account organically grows to 1k (We've been getting 50-150 a day)
3) Go live
4) These real followers must get the live notification and some of them join
5) This pushes the live to the FYP
6) Profit

Anticipated Problem- The account will be associated with previous accounts through metadata and be shadowbanned. It's being used on a 4g data network with a rotating IP so hopefully this isn't a problem, but we will see.

Proxies
A pandora's box of questions I can't answer

1) Set up proxies to run the accounts on
2) Use some sort of combination of the methods above to receive followers
3) Go Live
4) TIkTok sees me as a new user and pushes to the FYP
5) Profit

Anticipated Problem- From what I've been able to research, TikTok can simply choose to ignore the mobile proxy request. I have never used proxies for this purpose and there seems to be a lot of unanswered questions. VPNs will get your live immediately banned, and I'm worried the same will result from proxies. I've never set up a mobile proxy, and getting it all set up, with the amount of learning curve and money spent it will require, only for it to flop, is not an ideal prospect.


That's all I can think of for now. I will update every week or so with any changes, if you have any input, thoughts, experience, ect. I'd love to hear it.

Thanks for reading, best of luck to you all.
Fascinating to watch and learn about TikTok’s process. Google does something similar for business profiles
 
I go live myself from time to time but I manage several girls' pages as well.

Update: The organic account is doing extremely well. I haven't tried the drip feed account yet, but that will be next.

Surprise, Surprise. Organic followers result in organic engagement.

This is an extremely tedious process as it took about 10 days to get enough followers to go live (Interestingly, I was granted the ability to go live after 920 followers, rather than 1000). I intend to look into means of building up organic followers more quickly over more accounts, so that when these accounts are banned we don't run into this dry spell again.
I have around 20 acc growing naturally. All that acc still active, not get shadowbanned when I post content.
But all of them get 0 viewer when I go live.
I use VPN for create account, post content and golive.
Another 700 account with same method still had viewer live.
Still figuring out...
 
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