Blackhat email marketing advice?

I have a list and I have an offer, it would be my services I can offer at least 3 different services.

What do you guys recommend me to use to send emails I say I have around 100k emails I can get more.

Next step is clean up list but im stuck on what to use to send these services or even how to learn to warm up emails etc.

@UncLe Spam

I see you have a lot of knowledge any advice on this ?
 
Looks like I'm a little late to this thread. IDK why email isn't a public forum and is hidden in the JV section but w/e.

To send 400K in a reasonable amount of time you'll need to work with either your own setup or someone who has the tools to streamline the process for you. Mailing is still by far the best way to promote anything but there are challenges involved, such as building up rep and maintaining delivery performance. I'll drop a freebie for you:

If your list is mostly one or two domains, you will not be able to send at a high rate. In the past you could increase speed by stacking IP addresses, but if you do this today, it will cause the IP block (the entire /24) to get banned...so you are limited to 2-4 IPs per domain for sending NON-TRANSACTIONAL email.

The guy here who posted the mailer king sending 3,700 per minute was not sending at that volume to hotmail or gmail only. The list has to have a good diversity of domains, called GI (General Internet). You can blast out a lot of mail to a GI list but at the same time it has a high chance of getting your IPs on spamhaus because it will almost certainly be full of traps. So unless you are using a mailing system like DGMS, which profiles each domain and does deep DNS queries to identify the true owners of particular domains in real time, you aren't going to be sending much of anything.

The other thing that you need to understand when mailing is that you will need AT LEAST two weeks from the day you start mailing to warm your IPs and domains. While you are doing this, you can't be sending promo emails. You have to send something mail without links or anything. A good choose would be a "welcome" email, like "thank you for registering with us". Or 'email verification'.

Once you start mailing, you shouldn't stop. You should mail CONSISTENTLY each day. You can't start and stop or you will overall hurt your rep. That means your daily target volume should be LIST SIZE divided by 5. If your list is 400K, then the max you should send is 80K per day (if your goal is to maintain rep). If you have a small list and resend to the same recipients each day, it will ultimately cause your rep to drop.

I've been doing this for over 10 years and while most of my colleagues have disappeared, I'm still around. :) That is a testament to the fact that my ways of mailing are effective. BHW has decent people on there but for every one honest person there's 20 scammers/bullshitters who promise a lot and either don't deliver or just rip you off. It is wise to make a contact list of honorable people that you meet, either on BHW or anywhere else.
 
And they say Mailer King is old, useless and garbage.

It definitely has that old school vibe that I appreciate... but sending 400K @ 4K per day is going to take over 3 months. DGMS blows this out of the water.
 
Because BHW had to bow down around 10 years ago to certain demands. It was public once.

Yeah, I was here when it was public. I don't think they should have moved it just because they were getting threats from some anti-spam nutjobs. Trademark your IPs and your domain(s) as these are unique identifiers for your business, and if they list them on a block list, you can sue them for trademark infringement. So far I haven't had to go beyond a cease and desist letter to get my IPs removed, except for one time, where I filed my claim in court and they quickly folded because they knew they were going to lose. Trademarks (and copyright) are cut and dry.
 
I got 20-40M emails from USA, UK, Canada, Australia and germany in country segments.
currently I just use them to remarket my own products in shopify. These emails are my previous clients.
so the questions is...

is there anyway to spam them with affiliate nutra offers or sweepstakes offer?
currently those emails are in klaviyo. I can export them out any time.
 
Maybe I can help if you need, because I also do email marketing these days.
 
but sending 400K @ 4K per day is going to take over 3 months. DGMS blows this out of the water.
What are you talking about? I have stopped mailing for right now but... I have a friend right now who is mailing with Mailer King and buying accounts very cheap. He is sending a million a day doing ppc dating offers. With the right connections for accounts and using Mailer KIng you can send out endless amounts of emails. All the web methods on the mailer are dead of course. So him and I have used and been using SMTP. Here I'll throw this thread a bone: OUTLOOK via SMTP = $
 
There is a site where you can buy Outlooks for $0.002 an account. 30k accounts at that rate is $60. In my screenshots I posted of Mailer King those were different sessions that weren't even finished. Those were small sessions of like 3k accounts or lower. You can see how fast the mailers were mailing and how much mail got out. My friend here recently has been doing 150k emails per 3k accounts. So imagine if you bought 30k accounts how much mail you can get out do the math. The key thing is to mail nothing but valid emails no bounces and try to write new subjects and messages for your campaigns as much as you can. I'd drop the site on here where you can buy the accounts I've noticed moderators don't like me doing that so I won't. I will say this if you know of Tavels site he has a banner on the top left that has the account site. I was buying from there and my friend is still currently buying now.
 
What are you talking about? I have stopped mailing for right now but... I have a friend right now who is mailing with Mailer King and buying accounts very cheap. He is sending a million a day doing ppc dating offers. With the right connections for accounts and using Mailer KIng you can send out endless amounts of emails. All the web methods on the mailer are dead of course. So him and I have used and been using SMTP. Here I'll throw this thread a bone: OUTLOOK via SMTP = $

There is a site where you can buy Outlooks for $0.002 an account. 30k accounts at that rate is $60. In my screenshots I posted of Mailer King those were different sessions that weren't even finished. Those were small sessions of like 3k accounts or lower. You can see how fast the mailers were mailing and how much mail got out. My friend here recently has been doing 150k emails per 3k accounts. So imagine if you bought 30k accounts how much mail you can get out do the math. The key thing is to mail nothing but valid emails no bounces and try to write new subjects and messages for your campaigns as much as you can. I'd drop the site on here where you can buy the accounts I've noticed moderators don't like me doing that so I won't. I will say this if you know of Tavels site he has a banner on the top left that has the account site. I was buying from there and my friend is still currently buying now.

Let's just keep it simple, according to what you're telling us here:

50 emails per 1 account per day
Your friend has 3K accounts and is sending up to 150K per day.
You suggest 30K accounts to send up to 1.5M per day.

Now what you didn't share:
- You will need proxies or IPs to log into these accounts: how many accounts can you safely utilize per IP? Then we can know how many proxies/IPs will be needed
- How much email can you send through one of these accounts before it is disabled?
- Even the best email lists are going to generate bounces
- Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo, and any services that use their systems do outbound email scanning. I suspect that if you are sending the same or similar message over thousands of different accounts would cause those accounts to get burned pretty quick...and probably get the IPs that you used blocked. How many uses do you get from an account on average, or how often do you need to buy replacement accounts?

I'm interested in learning more about this, so PM me.
 
Once you use the accounts for a mailing session they're pretty much done. Then the next day after using them you may still be able to get a little mail out not much though. For proxies you need proxies that have SMTP mailing ports open and that are rotating proxies. What I said before about validating your email list still sticks. You validate your list before each session. You may run into some bounces but keeping them to a minimum is key. Also on Tavels site you can buy Mailer King if that helps. I have two different versions that he doesn't have. His version he has for sale will do the job though. Just look up MailBot by Tavel on Google. The site is on there to buy accounts and his contact details for buying Mailer King are on there if needed.

I rather just put everything out here in the thread to help people. You may ask something that somebody else may want to know.
 
How much you are willing to pay if someone Agrees to take the list.
Check for valids, cleaning up and sending the stuff you want?

It requires some stuff that cost some money.
So mass emailing service has some expenses to cover.

The usual rate for such amount of emails and good inbox is around 200-300€/$

That's minimum.
 
Once you use the accounts for a mailing session they're pretty much done. Then the next day after using them you may still be able to get a little mail out not much though. For proxies you need proxies that have SMTP mailing ports open and that are rotating proxies. What I said before about validating your email list still sticks. You validate your list before each session. You may run into some bounces but keeping them to a minimum is key. Also on Tavels site you can buy Mailer King if that helps. I have two different versions that he doesn't have. His version he has for sale will do the job though. Just look up MailBot by Tavel on Google. The site is on there to buy accounts and his contact details for buying Mailer King are on there if needed.

I rather just put everything out here in the thread to help people. You may ask something that somebody else may want to know.

So the true costs to using something like mailer king to send 150K per day is roughly $6 for the accounts ($180 per month) plus whatever you pay for proxies. You'd probably need at least 500 proxies that are open on at least port 465 or 587, and the prices for these seems to vary quite a bit, but for 500 you are probably looking at $350+ per month.

In total, that is $180 for the accounts plus ~$400 for 500 proxies which means roughly $580 / mo to deliver up to 150K emails per day....but without a real mailer that can handle FBLs, hard/soft bounces, DSNs, and other such issues your list will inevitably become more and more difficult to mail to. I guess it's a good option for getting started but I would suggest that people who are serious about mailing just invest in a real mailing system.
 
I have a huge amount of email addresses (hundreds of thousands) that I would like to send marketing emails to. These addresses aren't subscribed to my email list.
I would like to learn how to email these addresses in bulk, quickly, and still end up in their inbox and not spam. How do I do this, is there a tool or email service provider that helps with this?
What do those scammers use to spam millions of email addresses? I don't want to scam anyone just increase traffic to my website and make some sales.
 
FIne with me stay far away from the method and on your proxy prices you're wrong. I won't point you in the right direction though. The proxies my friend and I have used are under $60 a month. He doesn't send 150k a day more like a mill or a little under. He's making $200 to $300 a day doing dating ppc offers. When I was mailing I showed in this thread what I had made in a week I did $1,890.
 
It’s so funny reading some of these posts here. You can clearly see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn’t.

blasting out emails to a list of 400k is not email marketing. It’s wasting your time, money and training spam filters even more.

There is only one way to guarantee email delivery, and no one on this forum with a random list would be able to do it.
 
I agree that's why I'm in touch with data brokers to constantly have new data. I'm constantly building clicker lists to market ppc dating offers. Mailing the same old list over and over the data will eventually go cold. A clicker list does last for a good bit though especially if you have new offers being thrown at them.
 
What a steal! $300 expenses and up to $10000 with no effort.

Gonna try!
 
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