Where the heck is Sartre?

[eXonyte]

uh all the hobby investigators now .. look as if nobody here has ever put a fake address on a website lol
that doesnt mean you are a scammer, it can also mean that you just want to keep your privacy and there is nothing wrong with that.
especially when having to deal with some of the crazy people around here...
i'm not saying its not possible it was an exit scam, i'm just saying all this speculations wont give us any answers.
until we get a life sign anything could have happened.

Looks to me like they are simply calling a spade a spade, not that they’re “hobby investigators”. Exit scam sounds more realistic than kidnapped, hacked or any other theory in this thread given the circumstances and background.

 

[RichMedusa]

uh all the hobby investigators now .. look as if nobody here has ever put a fake address on a website lol
that doesnt mean you are a scammer, it can also mean that you just want to keep your privacy and there is nothing wrong with that.
especially when having to deal with some of the crazy people around here...
i'm not saying its not possible it was an exit scam, i'm just saying all this speculations wont give us any answers.
until we get a life sign anything could have happened.

put a fake address on my shitty website that sells dildos for $29,90 is a thing
put a fake address on an agency website that sells services for $10K is another thing

 

[itz_styx]

Looks to me like they are simply calling a spade a spade, not that they’re “hobby investigators”. Exit scam sounds more realistic than kidnapped, hacked or any other theory in this thread given the circumstances and background.

no, they are just making assumptions, but we don't have any kind of prove yet so.... a guy who is in contact with sartre IRL wasnt able to reach him and said his phone is off and is very worried that something happened to him. so before accusing him of scamming, what if something bad happened? we don't know, but its unfair to make assumptions until we know more.

put a fake address on my shitty website that sells dildos for $29,90 is a thing
put a fake address on an agency website that sells services for $10K is another thing

if that is your concern then why you pay $10k without first checking to make sure its a legit company?

 

[zigzagzig]

I guess he got A LOT of money in crypto in advance for the work he didn't do or couldn't, so he is faking "being hacked".

 

[noellarkin]

sartre IRL wasnt able to reach him and said his phone is off and is very worried that something happened to him

What seems strange to me is, given the scale of his business and the high ticket customers he has, even if he is incapacitated, the standard operating procedure would be for a VA or personal assistant to let the clients know of the circumstances.

 

[leechesBleechin]

My spidey senses tell me this thread is about to get locked. Tune in next week for the continuation of Bold and the Blackhatters

 

[eXonyte]

no, they are just making assumptions, but we don't have any kind of prove yet so.... a guy who is in contact with sartre IRL wasnt able to reach him and said his phone is off and is very worried that something happened to him. so before accusing him of scamming, what if something bad happened? we don't know, but its unfair to make assumptions until we know more.

Sure they are, good luck with the whole head in the sand thing. Who is this IRL guy? Is he a member here? Perhaps he could shed some light on how he actually knows him IRL, all I gathered was he rung his number, if he knows him IRL can he not knock at his door?

 

[RichMedusa]

if that is your concern then why you pay $10k without first checking to make sure its a legit company?

I didn't buy his services, but several people did precisely because of the reputation built in this forum, so I can't answer for them.

undeniably he knows and has the capacity to deliver the services he offers, otherwise there would be dozens of reports against him

but it is possible that he simply got tired of delivering the services and chose to take the easy way out which is not to deliver anything and keep 100% of the money

it is much more feasible and simpler to understand this than to believe that he was kidnapped, or a doppelganger took his place, or that the chat gpt, concerned with his knowledge, is threatening him and is keeping him locked in a prison in a village in portugal

 

[C63]

He's a good person and I believe that.

 

[itz_styx]

What seems strange to me is, given the scale of his business and the high ticket customers he has, even if he is incapacitated, the standard operating procedure would be for a VA or personal assistant to let the clients know of the circumstances.

he stated on one site that its a 1 man operation ..sure might not be the best move to fake having an agency, but oh well ..so if something happened to him who is gonna hire a VA and knows his passwords etc to inform people?

Sure they are, good luck with the whole head in the sand thing. Who is this IRL guy? Is he a member here? Perhaps he could shed some light on how he actually knows him IRL, all I gathered was he rung his number, if he knows him IRL can he not knock at his door?

he's not a member here afaik, hes in a private group i'm in that sartre also is a member of. look i didnt question him about everything, i just took his word for it. i dont know how he knows him, but you dont have to be in the same country to know someone in real life you know.. so maybe all he can do is call. he said he also tried all other channels and got no reply (i dont know what these are, i just relay what he said). that friend was never much active in the group and i asked him again a few days ago if he heard anything, but still waiting for a reply.

I didn't buy his services, but several people did precisely because of the reputation built in this forum, so I can't answer for them.

undeniably he knows and has the capacity to deliver the services he offers, otherwise there would be dozens of reports against him

but it is possible that he simply got tired of delivering the services and chose to take the easy way out which is not to deliver anything and keep 100% of the money

it is much more feasible and simpler to understand this than to believe that he was kidnapped, or a doppelganger took his place, or that the chat gpt, concerned with his knowledge, is threatening him and is keeping him locked in a prison in a village in portugal

so why are you so concerned if you are not affected?
of course its possible, like i said everything is possible, but my whole point is that brining up 32645842936 theories of what might have happened doesnt help at all.

 

[CreativeDaddy]

uh all the hobby investigators now .. look as if nobody here has ever put a fake address on a website lol
that doesnt mean you are a scammer, it can also mean that you just want to keep your privacy and there is nothing wrong with that.
especially when having to deal with some of the crazy people around here...
i'm not saying its not possible it was an exit scam, i'm just saying all this speculations wont give us any answers.
until we get a life sign anything could have happened.

Actually I'm a lawyer and a criminologist (not working at it atm) and the examples I gave are based on current details and are the most logical scenarios.

 

[CreativeDaddy]

He does not live in the suburbs of Pittsburgh.

I'd ignore that content.

How do you know?

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

How do you know?

Because I do.

 

[CreativeDaddy]

Because I do.

I assume it's not based on membership payment tax & address details because that can be easily faked.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

I assume it's not based on membership payment tax & address details because that can be easily faked.

Assume what you think is best but this situation is not something that the staff has been looking at for a bit.

 

[CreativeDaddy]

Assume what you think is best but this situation is not something that the staff has been looking at for a bit.

Got it.

 

[RichMedusa]

How do you know?

The Pittsburgh records are from years ago, maybe he lived there before. Or that he was born there. More likely than a Spaniard named Jacob Swift.

 

[Kikerinka]

Clearly a scammer. A very clever scammer, by the way.

• If he has been hacked:
- why didn't he send an email or ask the moderators for help?
- Why didn't he create another account to explain the situation?
- a JR Vip account that has no 2FA? Were all his devices compromised? very unlikely
- why did he disappear from contact circles outside of BHW? the guy apparently lives and makes money from the internet, it's like you stopping going to work at the office for months without explanation.

Other indications of something sketchy:

• The websites involving his name have fake addresses, these supposed agencies, consultancies and real estate agents don't exist in real life

• Here is this photo: http://web.archive.org/web/20220626155157/https://whiletruecode.com/

If you search for the origin of the photo, you will arrive at this site: https://bokkuren.com/

If you click on HOME, you will see an unfinished project of a digital marketing agency saying that his name is Ben Arthur and not Jacob Swift. By the way, both names are quite strange, not at all common in Spain, where he claims to be from.

• All his websites can be created in less than an hour using Elementor. They are really very basic and easy to do. Some are even incomplete.Which is really strange for companies that charge 10K USD for a service.

Oh, and don't blindly believe that he is telling the whole truth about moving to Portugal or that he bought dogecoins in 2013 and luckily got them to sell for 5000X ROI eight years later.

The vast majority of kidnappers are not knowledgeable enough to impersonate him and this is a very Hollywoodian theory. It is much easier to believe an exit scam than crazy theories and that OPEN AI hired a hit man for him.

You made valid points. Many things are fishy. He actually showed different pictures on his website over the months (including one with Andrew Tate, something I referred to in one thread tagging him, but he never replied my comment).

The funny thing was that while those pictures were somehow similar, I always got the impression that there was actually a different person on each picture...

Anyway, if this turns out to be a scam (which I hope isn't the case), it will probably go down as the biggest scam in BHW history. I wouldn't be surprised if Sartre cashed over $500K revenue on sales here alone...

 

[RichMedusa]

You made valid points. Many things are fishy. He actually showed different pictures on his website over the months (including one with Andrew Tate, something I referred to in one thread tagging him, but he never replied my comment).

The funny thing was that while those pictures were somehow similar, I always got the impression that there was actually a different person on each picture...

Anyway, if this turns out to be a scam (which I hope isn't the case), it will probably go down as the biggest scam in BHW history. I wouldn't be surprised if Sartre cashed over $500K revenue on sales here alone...

I suppose he has delivered the services several times. If not, he would have been banned by now and would have several reports against him on shit list section.

Supposedly it would not be a scam from the beginning, but rather from some event or simply on a nice day he decided to take all the money from the last orders without delivering anything. Maybe because something changed and he could no longer deliver what he promised. Or out of simple greed. Just theories.

 

[CreativeDaddy]

The Pittsburgh records are from years ago, maybe he lived there before. Or that he was born there. More likely than a Spaniard named Jacob Swift.

I saw the records. But something is really off the charts here

Maybe we are missing something because the guy don't only talked good but he also shared a lot of knowledgeb but well it can also be fruits from a lot of experience on "fake it until you make it".

Assumptions assumptions...