AI Article Penalty Speed Run Case study 4000 posts

[Gusablet]

Interesting thread to follow. Nice post!

 

[Jaordas]

Very interesting stuff @Jaordas !

Few questions if you got time to answer?
1. Did you use single prompt for all articles?
2. How did you get and clustered the keywords used?
3. How is those 4000 posts structured inside your site linking wise? Are many of the posts far away from homepage (4-5+ clicks?)?

Great to see someone doing testing like this, have been thinking about going overboard with some of my sites.

Did you have custom tool to automate all this or how did you manage to publish all those? I'm thinking about developing site automator which would help with this.

1: More like a single string of prompts, just to create headings and paragraphs, but general enough that thousands of articles can be made by only changing the keyword.
2: lowfruits
3: For indexing all posts were no more than 2 from home page, but after that I've put them in the back of my site ( basically hard to navigate to if you are not purposely looking for them, but still crawlable etc. If you are on the home page of the site it just looks like a regular blog and features human-written content only.

I wish you luck on your site.

 

[Jaordas]

Mini update:

We are living in questionable times
Many of my old human-written articles hit on the 15th and not recovering


the AI articles are pretty much back to their traffic levels and rising.


Site #2 Adsense and Ezoic approved so soon I will be making a journey post for it and ill try to make something out of it.

Forgot if I mentioned before but I remonetized a site so for what it is worth I'm going to eventually use the new post ill make to monitor and update things since money will be involved.

I am not used to forum life, so if you guys have any advice on how to do the journey post so it would be interesting to follow but not require me to give tooooo much information about the sites then id appreciate it.

Ideally:
I want to establish the post in as few words as possible and establish what I will be sharing.

While this post was a case study of a sort, I don't think rambling about analytics is what journey posts are meant for?
I don't really have a goal in mind since these AI projects are not my main money makers but I have no intention of talking about my real website (I'm sure some of you can relate).
Should I even set a money goal or just make the goal to build it until it drops?

I think ill make the post by tonight and link it here, so if you have any input please get it in lol.

I do intend to post some form of screenshots for earnings, since I hate looking at people saying (I earned xyz) with no proof, sure screen shots can be faked but at least for the people who trust me they can see the value.

 

[BroTherm]

Journey does not need a set goal in terms of money. It needs work and results update to inspire others.

 

[Jaordas]

Journey does not need a set goal in terms of money. It needs work and results update to inspire others.

I see; though I think maybe setting a money goal might also help inspire some, I don't think I'm a good teacher or coder so unlike some of the impressive journeys I see, I feel like I am more capable of providing basic hope than actually explain my work. I didn't end up making it today but I'm still thinking how I want to do it.

 

[jaerehan]

Nice to read your journey. What is the length of your article? Are those all the articles got indexed? what are the changes in the traffic?

 

[Jaordas]

Nice to read your journey. What is the length of your article? Are those all the articles got indexed? what are the changes in the traffic?

Article length varies, most are 500-900
A few hundred are 2500 plus
Traffic of site doubled comparing from the day I first started posting to the period of same length of time before.


Bottom line is before AI


core update slowed down the site growth

Thanks for reading


All articles indexed

 

[GreenGrass2019]

How did you get 4000 articles at once damn

 

[Jaordas]

How did you get 4000 articles at once damn

its actually around 15000 now, basically gpt AI and a generator............. is that deku lol

 

[belkan5]

How many articles are in the second site? I supposed is a big number to be approved by adsense already. In that regard, are those articles the ones that you edit or just publish as they come out?

 

[Jaordas]

How many articles are in the second site? I supposed is a big number to be approved by adsense already. In that regard, are those articles the ones that you edit or just publish as they come out?

The second site still doesnt have a ton of articles, it only had around 30, AI-created but hand edited by me purely for the sake of getting acceptance to Adsense and Ezioc first. I have friends who posted hundreds and got denied over different problems or low-value content. It is harder to fix issues or control quality on a site with too many posts, so I'm not scaling site 2 yet because even though I have approval from Ezoic and Adsense, I'm having a technical issue in relation to serving ads and I want to get that fixed before I post.

It also has slower natural indexing as it is a fresh domain so I cant go at the speed I did for website 1.

 

[belkan5]

The second site still doesnt have a ton of articles, it only had around 30, AI-created but hand edited by me purely for the sake of getting acceptance to Adsense and Ezioc first. I have friends who posted hundreds and got denied over different problems or low-value content. It is harder to fix issues or control quality on a site with too many posts, so I'm not scaling site 2 yet because even though I have approval from Ezoic and Adsense, I'm having a technical issue in relation to serving ads and I want to get that fixed before I post.

It also has slower natural indexing as it is a fresh domain so I cant go at the speed I did for website 1.

Thanks, that's a good reference. I'll try again because I was rejected before, but seeing as a big number of articles doesn't necessary mean approval, I can still try.

 

[The Heisenberg]

I even don't know about this Information. Thank you so much for share this information with us.

 

[Jaordas]

---------====================================================================================================NOTICE =============================================================================================

Ive create a Journey post that will function more or less of a continuation to this saga and my AI posting endeavors. It should be more organized than this and Will have Earnings and such involved and posted.

I will still try to answer questions here if someone asks anything but please just know all future updates will be posted in the thread below:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/m...0-usd-a-month-with-500-000-pageviews.1487006/
Thanks to everyone who followed and kept me motivated so far.

If you are looking for information on the progress of the website this Thread was started for, it will be referred to as "Site 1" by me for the future.

If you want to see how much Site one has been earning since ads were put back on it you can head on over. Any questions, feel free to ask ill try to get back.


Hope everyone has a great day!!!!!!

 

[MonkeyJohn]

Thanks for all the info in this thread. Learnt a lot!

 

[Bugfisch]

Crawl budget where?

I would argue, that the crawl budget is NOT, how many pages a spider will visit - the google bot only comes over and saves what he saw. The real performance intensive stuff is the evaluation of the data, that's where google is budgeting
You can see that by the index pages, that grow step by step, like there is some kind of limit to it, how many pages are processed.

 

[Jaordas]

I would argue, that the crawl budget is NOT, how many pages a spider will visit - the google bot only comes over and saves what he saw. The real performance intensive stuff is the evaluation of the data, that's where google is budgeting
You can see that by the index pages, that grow step by step, like there is some kind of limit to it, how many pages are processed.

The steps are because I take breaks, not because they weren't being indexed fast. I think I mentioned it before but everything will usually be on the serp within a day, and available to be clicked on and everything.
All these bumps are on days I'm publishing hundreds or thousands, all other time I'm not even touching the site cus I have other things going on. The requests will expand to fit the ton of new posts the shrink back down to levels of just freshness crawling.




That very first red arrow is the crawling for the first 4000 posts I published and I thought that was crazy, but even afterwords ive
come to find out I can even publish 10 k in a day and it would all be indexed and serving before nightfall (hence the more giant bumps)

Im not sure how to show this to you but I published arround 2 k posts yesterday and this is the last one I published before taking a break.


Already in serp with all the rest.
I dont have posts being published or made when im not awake as I am a little control freak with the Keywords and fear of the generation getting broken (which it has before and generated like 20 posts of nonsense) which sadly get indexed so fast that even though ive deleted them, they are
still on the serp cached lol.



Those flat areas where thousands are not being added to the index is purely because I wasnt publishing anything. Now the site has thousands, single posts dont even move the bars visually.
Some days ive published only a hundred (little bump) somedays ive had to delete a hundred (bot created nonsense, or something else went wrong so I needed to get rid of the posts )



Though keep in mind im not saying your arguement is wrong, im just saying I am not sure it applies to my site because these stairs are me chilling and not doing work for days then coming back and doing a massive job and leaving again.

If it was constand drip feeding the index from the crawled pages then it wouldnt look like stairs as every single day would have new posts being added. If I run my mouse on days you will see nothing at all is being added ( because nothing is left to be added if im not publishing)


TLDR:
The limits you are seeing is me being lazy and not publishing, not google avoiding indexing the pages.
Google has no pages left to index that is why it goes flat at random points.

 

[Bugfisch]

The steps are because I take breaks

Yeah, I know - I didn't mean, that it will work thourgh all at once, but still over some days - where the Limit, the so called "crawling budget", steps in. It's not a budget for the crawl, the crawler goes basicly through all he finds - i have 50gb of nignx logfiles daily because of this shit =D
I basicly support your argument, that there is no crawling budget - in the sense of the act of crawling

 

[Jaordas]

Yeah, I know - I didn't mean, that it will work thourgh all at once, but still over some days - where the Limit, the so called "crawling budget", steps in. It's not a budget for the crawl, the crawler goes basicly through all he finds - i have 50gb of nignx logfiles daily because of this shit =D
I basicly support your argument, that there is no crawling budget - in the sense of the act of crawling

LOL, I see what you mean, and you are likely right.
I do have to wonder about say like, people who have websites with a single page for every single phone number.
Both crawl and index probably have some limit but index limit would probably be first to hit as you say. The bottle neck.

 

[SimonSez]

its actually around 15000 now, basically gpt AI and a generator............. is that deku lol

How much dos Chat GPT cost to use? How do you generate articles using that.