any Vultr Users ?

flprocess said:
I used Centos Web Panel for a while, even paid the few bucks for the license. It's horrible! unstable, lack of options and generally inconvenient to use.

for OP - Cyberpanel no doubt.
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Would you say Cyberpanel is better?
 
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KHer0 said:
Stay away from Cyberpanel .. use PLESK

And stay away from Vultr. Use Digital Ocean.

Thank me later :)
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Plesk seems to have very good reviews on everywhere I researched, The only downside Is the limitation of apps per server, is that correct ?

Plesk and Cyberpanel seem to be the 2 best free panels based upon user reviews.

also, as long as server is concerned Vultr and Digital ocean seem to be the 2 leading in this regard, But what about other unpopular servers with far less prices, Contabo is one that comes to mind. Hetzner is another one although not far less in price and very bad customer support with them in the past.

Have you used Contabo or even other similar alternatives to VULTR besides Digital Ocean ? Linode may be ?
 
Muhatrima said:
Plesk seems to have very good reviews on everywhere I researched, The only downside Is the limitation of apps per server, is that correct ?

Plesk and Cyberpanel seem to be the 2 best free panels based upon user reviews.

also, as long as server is concerned Vultr and Digital ocean seem to be the 2 leading in this regard, But what about other unpopular servers with far less prices, Contabo is one that comes to mind. Hetzner is another one although not far less in price and very bad customer support with them in the past.

Have you used Contabo or even other similar alternatives to VULTR besides Digital Ocean ? Linode may be ?
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Yup, I have used all of them.

Plesk:
Plesk is from same company of CPanel. It's corporation level product. Tested and refined over the years. As a web developer I am in owe of how magnificent this panel is. To have all these features, with such incredible stability, just wow. And I have used more than a dozen of panels over the years, it's a hobby ^_^

I have used cyber panel for years. It's the opposite of Plesk. Updates are launched and products are tested on the users directly. This is why you would never see a web hosting company using cyber panel. They fix bugs on the go!

The main con of Plesk is its price. Which again tells you why it's far ahead from any mentioned products which are all free while Plesk is the most expensive panel according to my knowledge.

Luck for us Digital Ocean and Vultr have free version which allows 3 domains/vps.

Providers:

I don't like Hetzner because they wanted ID verficiation while registering. I have no problem with verifying my identity! but if you are doing this for server registration, well, this says a lot about how tight you are.

Anyway, I have been Vultr customers for a decade, then left them the last month. They have the best hardware out there. They give you the best VPS for money. Very stable and really fast. However, their customer support is cold. And I changed because they started asking for my VAT number, where I really live and what is my business. For real, I am your customer since 2016 or something, and you can't check my website your dns records!

Digital Ocean is the opposite, although vultr has slight advantage on the hardware part, DO customer support is cheerful, respectful and fun.

Lindoe is gr8, I love them. Does exactly what it says it would and never faced any issue with them. However, not sure if they have Plesk free offer or not.

Conclusion:
Cloud VPS (DO, Vultr or Linode) + Plesk free version will give you speed, control and stability you won't find with any competitor even in managed servers at same price.
 
KHer0 said:
Yup, I have used all of them.

Plesk:
Plesk is from same company of CPanel. It's corporation level product. Tested and refined over the years. As a web developer I am in owe of how magnificent this panel is. To have all these features, with such incredible stability, just wow. And I have used more than a dozen of panels over the years, it's a hobby ^_^

I have used cyber panel for years. It's the opposite of Plesk. Updates are launched and products are tested on the users directly. This is why you would never see a web hosting company using cyber panel. They fix bugs on the go!

The main con of Plesk is its price. Which again tells you why it's far ahead from any mentioned products which are all free while Plesk is the most expensive panel according to my knowledge.

Luck for us Digital Ocean and Vultr have free version which allows 3 domains/vps.

Providers:

I don't like Hetzner because they wanted ID verficiation while registering. I have no problem with verifying my identity! but if you are doing this for server registration, well, this says a lot about how tight you are.

Anyway, I have been Vultr customers for a decade, then left them the last month. They have the best hardware out there. They give you the best VPS for money. Very stable and really fast. However, their customer support is cold. And I changed because they started asking for my VAT number, where I really live and what is my business. For real, I am your customer since 2016 or something, and you can't check my website your dns records!

Digital Ocean is the opposite, although vultr has slight advantage on the hardware part, DO customer support is cheerful, respectful and fun.

Lindoe is gr8, I love them. Does exactly what it says it would and never faced any issue with them. However, not sure if they have Plesk free offer or not.

Conclusion:
Cloud VPS (DO, Vultr or Linode) + Plesk free version will give you speed, control and stability you won't find with any competitor even in managed servers at same price.
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Cloudways + Vultr

Or

Vultr + Plesk ?

Which combo and why?
 
I would recommend Runcloud too. Panels are easy to work with, but it's always best to have everything set up yourself.

Nginx + FastCache CGI will be a good configuration that will outperform any panel out there.
 
Kinu Actaz said:
I prefer Cyberpanel. It installs with OpenLiteSpeed server.
Faster than Nginx :)
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I'd be curious where this assertion comes from. Without wishing to cause offence, Nginx requires correct configuration that's appropriate for its runtime environment (eg number of real cores) and relying on the distro- or panel-supplied defaults is suboptimal. LightSpeed has some features to recommend it for certain use cases like shared hosting, but better performance than Nginx isn't one of them. With that said, both will be plenty fast enough for anyone asking this sort of question.
 
Muhatrima said:
What panel would you recommend ?

Plesk, cyberpanel, aapanel ?
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At the risk of being unpopular, I'll advise this: learn to do the config by hand, properly. This isn't wasting time with technical munitiae - it's a core skill. Use automation tools to speed up repetitive jobs that you understand, not as a substitute for clue or a crutch for doing things you can't. It's really not that hard to learn.
 
paulieg said:
At the risk of being unpopular, I'll advise this: learn to do the config by hand, properly. This isn't wasting time with technical munitiae - it's a core skill. Use automation tools to speed up repetitive jobs that you understand, not as a substitute for clue or a crutch for doing things you can't. It's really not that hard to learn.
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Any good videos that show how's its done?
 
homeriscool said:
Any good videos that show how's its done?
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Tons of tutorial articles, yours for the price of a search. Nginx also has great documentation for each directive. The point is to learn how everything works (from HTTP and TLS itself to how your chosen server operates), not follow a step-by-step walkthrough - something you can just imitate without understanding what is being done and why is not a marginal gain over having it be done for you by a panel, it's just slower and more error-prone. That's why I said this would be unpopular; a lot of people don't want to put in the effort to learn basic technical fundamentals.

You want to learn, at a minimum:
* How the HTTP protocol works (request types, hosts, keepalives, cookies, encodings and other common headers)
* How TLS works (certificates, cypher suites)
* How to choose the right process/thread values for your server given real (not logical) cpu cores and workload (dynamic vs static)
* How to set up a virtual host
* How to enable SSL on it
* How to set up LetsEncrypt certificates
* How to handle particular routes differently
* How to configure FastCGI and friends

Once you know all this, look at how different panels work. Do they break if you touch the config yourself? Do they clobber your config changes or work with them? In the 2000s (when I last ran shared hosting) Plesk, for example, was notorious for not dealing well with configs it itself did not generate, while CPanel dealt with them fine (except when it broke because it was just a pile of badly tested write-once perl scripts). The point is that having the knowledge above, you will be able to either test or ask specific questions in the appropriate fora, and be prepared to deal with any issues that arise. It's the difference between just being able to ride a bike and being able to tighten the chain on it yourself, which I'm sure you'll agree, is neither too complex nor too much to ask of someone who intends to ride more than once a year.
 
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