Selenium vs Playwright - For Web automation and scraping
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madacot233
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neither is better, both are easy to detect if used unpatched.
You can use projects like anty browser which does decent job masking chromedriver usage and it allows you to use selenium or any other CDP controller to be used for automating your tasks.
Playwright is my favorite right now but it does not matter, you should go with what you feel most comfortable with.
brucebanner
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well im using selenium without any problems. You just need to set useragent and some important chromeoptions. Depend on what u r doing, AutoIt can be a good completion.
Good luck
Good luck
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@Alexion @brucebanner using unpatched webdriver and/or vanilla selenium is not ok, OP specifically mentioned interest to avoid bans.
brucebanner
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dont know what u mean by "patched" but i have an igbot and a gmail creator. Never ever got banned.
brucebanner
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dont know if you make reference to the chromedriver.exe code that contain certain words that trigger brower but if its that its totally "internet story"
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no, nothing of that triggers browser, browser does not care. If websites want to know if you use automation, they will know it. OP asked for undetectable methods to avoid bans, your setup is useless for this matter, you haven't got bans only because websites do not care or use different methods, e.g. action limiting.
brucebanner
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well ig is a really sensible app/site. I used bots for facebook/twitter/gmail/ig and so on and never had a problem. Maybe you didnt find a way yourself and the patch worked for you. In that situation its good for you but i dont personnally use patch or wtv and for how long i run it and on so much website, trust me when i say its non detectable its not detectable.
If you doubt, as you seem really sure of what ur saying i can right now show you how to do it, test it and comeback to say it work.
you cant come and say u have the only solution for something. So let me onow if you want to see. Ill show u it will close the debate.
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Instagram is action-based, try to open store like https://nordstrom.com with your automation or create a Tinder account without getting instant shadowban.
I don't doubt and I don't need you to show me anything, the way you talk tells me enough about your experience level.
madacot233
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Get your chromedriver bot to visit creepjs (https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/) and post a screenshot here.
brucebanner
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well i think i being polite, im just answering the sameway you talk like mr.iknoweverything. This is sad for a smart guy like you and i think i had to explain you quick and simple as you talk like ur way is the only way. Simple as that. I didnt show any disrespect and i dont want to do it too.
On another hand replying me that the way i talk you can determine my experience level... but did u re read how u come and talk like u know everything?
Anyway i dont have any animosity against you. No disrespect on you
best regards
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No, unique user agents are bad, you must blend in the crowd, thus using the most used user agents is the most preferable to do.
And user agents must match your system because spoofing os is close to impossible.
And even then, using default setup will leave your webdriver easily detectable.
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I don't mind showing disrespect because nowadays everybody thinks they deserve respect even when they talk bullshit or do things that are not respectable.
As it comes to me, I don't know everything, not at all, but there are some specific topics where it's proven that my knowledge is above average - reverse engineering, web automation, and building large-scale bots are things that I study deeply and strive to master to the level of perfection.
And what even does mean "my way is only way", FFS - its nothing to do with what I use or how I do it, its simple fact that selenium with unpatched chromedriver is easy to detect and if website you are trying to automate will care to block hostile or malicious users, you will be first to receive bans.
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Yes my bad. I actually meant non unique.
brucebanner
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well my point was not to offend you and sry if i did i came in here peacefully not into a war mind. Sry if you felt so.
No anger my friend!
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right here's the facts..
Selenium was designed for Web Automation, it came originally from TSL (Test Script Language). Google 100% knows your using it.
Do they care ?
No
Do SM sites know your using it ?
Yes
Do they care?
Some do - Some don't
Vast - Vast majority of SM bots use backend API's or stream injectors.
All those that say.. "I use selenium on my X site and I've never been banned", just wait, When those in charge find their girlfriend giving a blowjob to the post man, then your SM accounts will be flushed down the shitter, like his dignity.
This can help Undetectable Chrome Project I use it sometimes... but for scraping and nothing else.
What do I use ?
Autohotkey I will guarantee you %100, if u spend the time to learn an actual TSL language no one on this planet will ever detect what your doing.
But here's the problem with people - they are not willing to put the effort in now to reap the rewards later. They just want quick fixes to complex solutions, a fast turn around, easy money.
Selenium was designed for Web Automation, it came originally from TSL (Test Script Language). Google 100% knows your using it.
Do they care ?
No
Do SM sites know your using it ?
Yes
Do they care?
Some do - Some don't
Vast - Vast majority of SM bots use backend API's or stream injectors.
All those that say.. "I use selenium on my X site and I've never been banned", just wait, When those in charge find their girlfriend giving a blowjob to the post man, then your SM accounts will be flushed down the shitter, like his dignity.
This can help Undetectable Chrome Project I use it sometimes... but for scraping and nothing else.
What do I use ?
Autohotkey I will guarantee you %100, if u spend the time to learn an actual TSL language no one on this planet will ever detect what your doing.
But here's the problem with people - they are not willing to put the effort in now to reap the rewards later. They just want quick fixes to complex solutions, a fast turn around, easy money.