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It's ya boy xShot. And I fucked up.

The reason I’m writing this thread is because I figured the silver lining to my mistake would be sharing my experience, so you guys can understand how to learn from failures. I can honestly say with a full chest that if you learn how to handle failures, you'll be one step closer to your biggest win.

Essentially I had a (what I thought at the time was) genius side project idea. It isn't hard to figure out from my previous posts that it involved selling verified Amazon reviews, and I was going to pair this with a separate service that I already offer and sell it as a monthly package. I had even pre-sold existing clients of mine who were extremely interested in the service, and knew I'd be able to sign ~100 people up right away. Not only this, but I knew there was a big market for it due to my previous experience in ORM, and I always see people claiming to be able to deliver Amazon reviews on the forum, so I didn't think too much about finding a supplier.

I ended up investing time, money, and resources into developing my marketing plan (as I always do when I have a new idea). This involved the construction of landing pages, funnels, buying multiple social accounts, hiring copywriters, introducing the new method to my VA's, and much more. Once again, this is standard practice for me and nothing out of the ordinary. I understand that it takes investment to launch a new business/method.

I grinded hard - day and night to get everything set up so I could begin acquiring clients. Within about 1 month, I was ready to rock and roll. The last step was to find somebody who could deliver the reviews. And guess what...

It's damn near fucking impossible. Nobody can do it. I went through multiple sellers, on and off the forum. Sure, it's possible to get a few cheap reviews slapped on a product that are unverified and written in broken English... but verified USA reviews in bulk that are relevant to the product? Nope. There was literally only one person who could do this on the forum, and after speaking with him and laying out my entire business plan in great detail, he rejected the idea of a partnership. I'm not going to call the member out publicly, but it still astounds me that he basically turned down a free influx of regular clients.

Eventually, I even ended up involving other business partners so we could determine a way to handle fulfillment ourselves. These efforts were ineffective. It's simply a service that can't be provided at a higher level, and even if I spent more money figuring out how to deliver it on my own, it would inevitably cut into my profits to the point where it wouldn't be worth it.

I had a business built for a service I couldn't deliver. Money, resources, and most importantly, time down the drain. Not only this, but due to focusing a large portion of my time on this new endeavor, many of my other established brands suffered.

At this point, I've accepted the loss. That being said, I have never once failed and have not determined a reason why I failed, to prevent it from happening again. I realize that in this particular case I put the cart before the horse, and I should have ensured that I had a supplier/business partner that could deliver the aforementioned service before creating the infrastructure to make things work.

Whenever something doesn't go according to plan, rather than giving up:

ALWAYS DETERMINE WHY THINGS DIDN'T TURN OUT HOW YOU WANTED THEM TO.

If you do this, you increase your chances of success ten fold on your next method/business/idea.

I hope these words of wisdom help at least 1 person out there.​
 
It's ya boy xShot. And I fucked up.

The reason I’m writing this thread is because I figured the silver lining to my mistake would be sharing my experience, so you guys can understand how to learn from failures. I can honestly say with a full chest that if you learn how to handle failures, you'll be one step closer to your biggest win.

Essentially I had a (what I thought at the time was) genius side project idea. It isn't hard to figure out from my previous posts that it involved selling verified Amazon reviews, and I was going to pair this with a separate service that I already offer and sell it as a monthly package. I had even pre-sold existing clients of mine who were extremely interested in the service, and knew I'd be able to sign ~100 people up right away. Not only this, but I knew there was a big market for it due to my previous experience in ORM, and I always see people claiming to be able to deliver Amazon reviews on the forum, so I didn't think too much about finding a supplier.

I ended up investing time, money, and resources into developing my marketing plan (as I always do when I have a new idea). This involved the construction of landing pages, funnels, buying multiple social accounts, hiring copywriters, introducing the new method to my VA's, and much more. Once again, this is standard practice for me and nothing out of the ordinary. I understand that it takes investment to launch a new business/method.

I grinded hard - day and night to get everything set up so I could begin acquiring clients. Within about 1 month, I was ready to rock and roll. The last step was to find somebody who could deliver the reviews. And guess what...

It's damn near fucking impossible. Nobody can do it. I went through multiple sellers, on and off the forum. Sure, it's possible to get a few cheap reviews slapped on a product that are unverified and written in broken English... but verified USA reviews in bulk that are relevant to the product? Nope. There was literally only one person who could do this on the forum, and after speaking with him and laying out my entire business plan in great detail, he rejected the idea of a partnership. I'm not going to call the member out publicly, but it still astounds me that he basically turned down a free influx of regular clients.

Eventually, I even ended up involving other business partners so we could determine a way to handle fulfillment ourselves. These efforts were ineffective. It's simply a service that can't be provided at a higher level, and even if I spent more money figuring out how to deliver it on my own, it would inevitably cut into my profits to the point where it wouldn't be worth it.

I had a business built for a service I couldn't deliver. Money, resources, and most importantly, time down the drain. Not only this, but due to focusing a large portion of my time on this new endeavor, many of my other established brands suffered.

At this point, I've accepted the loss. That being said, I have never once failed and have not determined a reason why I failed, to prevent it from happening again. I realize that in this particular case I put the cart before the horse, and I should have ensured that I had a supplier/business partner that could deliver the aforementioned service before creating the infrastructure to make things work.

Whenever something doesn't go according to plan, rather than giving up:

ALWAYS DETERMINE WHY THINGS DIDN'T TURN OUT HOW YOU WANTED THEM TO.

If you do this, you increase your chances of success ten fold on your next method/business/idea.

I hope these words of wisdom help at least 1 person out there.​
These are wise words, valuable thread. The point about knowing why things didn't work out is especially important.
 
These are wise words, valuable thread. The point about knowing why things didn't work out is especially important.
Thanks @Castamir. Like I said, I truly hope it does help someone else out because I constantly see posts where people are either asking how to make petty change ("how can I make a dollar per day") or frustrated with something they've already started that isn't working. Sometimes you just have to dive in feet first and start, and even if it doesn't go according to plan, you'll be 1 step closer to something that does.
 
Im intrigued. Were you looking for verified purchaser reviews or unverified but geo relevant reviews?
 
Just relax man. You are going to fuck something up again in the future as this is inevitable. Main point here is that you've recognised your failure in time without customers involved in it.
 
Just use a micro worker platform to buy amazon reviews from tier one countries may not cost a lot(will help you initially)

Also I am sure there are FB groups(I don't have a list) , Craigs list where you can find people who do this in return for a free product and couple of extra bucks.

It's never too late my friend. Keep hustling, keep grinding.

Cheers
 
Im intrigued. Were you looking for verified purchaser reviews or unverified but geo relevant reviews?
The idea was for the reviews to be real. Nobody wants to jeopardize their Amazon seller account, so when I initially came up with the idea, I was going to sell it as a service that is completely compliant with Amazon's TOS. That would be in conjunction with something else I already offer, and I'm not gonna elaborate on that here.

Even the people reviewing would purchase the product at full price, making it extremely lucrative for the client. There were dozens of road blocks when it came to actually delivering this - I won't bore you with the details but it's not something where you can just crack out 50 real reviews on a product at the snap of your fingers.
 
Why would you care about Amazon reviews if you make $500 a day with Snapchat?

I mean $15K per month would set you up pretty good anywhere in the world. In South East Asia you could live like a king with that budget.
 
Just use a micro worker platform to buy amazon reviews from tier one countries may not cost a lot(will help you initially)

Also I am sure there are FB groups(I don't have a list) , Craigs list where you can find people who do this in return for a free product and couple of extra bucks.

It's never too late my friend. Keep hustling, keep grinding.

Cheers

Looked into Facebook groups - most of those are just people looking for freebies/discounts on products. The craigslist idea was something I thought about, but I've found that they have one of the most annoying algorithms on the planet. Even real posts I've made on CL have been deleted, but I'll certainly revisit. Thanks.
 
but it still astounds me that he basically turned down a free influx of regular clients.
Just a heads up,
Fake/factitious reviews are illegal in many parts of the world, including US & the UK.

The risk of getting sued in exchange for a few dollars isn't something that most are willing to take.
 
Just a heads up,
Fake/factitious reviews are illegal in many parts of the world, including US & the UK.

The risk of getting sued in exchange for a few dollars isn't something that most are willing to take.

For some reason i think that's true only for negative reviews. By anyway could you please share an official link for the specific law?
 
Just a heads up,
Fake/factitious reviews are illegal in many parts of the world, including US & the UK.

The risk of getting sued in exchange for a few dollars isn't something that most are willing to take.
This is something I was aware of beforehand. That being said, the reviews I intended to provide would have been 100% real. Individuals would purchase the product at full price, and leave relevant feedback.

As mentioned in my thread, I could've easily worked with a less reputable supplier and provide unverified reviews that are cookie-cutter. But I didn't want to compromise the quality of the service and risk any issues down the line, which is why I didn't go that route. Nobody wants that headache.
 
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