Urgent - Cloaking is DEAD...?

[ppcads]

Do you mean I can use cloaking only by uploading the PHP file into my VPS server - no need to integrate the PHP code in the code of my website as I used to do with WP ?

There r multiple different cloaking options for adw, since your method is to cloak own domain u can safely use js version.

 

[coolsheet]

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[greenmouse1111]

There r multiple different cloaking options for adw, since your method is to cloak own domain u can safely use js version.

JCI told me to use PHP though because there is PHP code in the JS one but thanks for the time you took to explain !

 

[ppcads]

JCI told me to use PHP though because there is PHP code in the JS one but thanks for the time you took to explain !

Php is also simple, u dont hv to use own vps to host the php file, any place that allows to host it u can use it. Even free 000webhost allows it.

 

[greenmouse1111]

Let me make it clear one more time, dont use WP! JCI php and js still works fine. Use simple html lander first that u cloak and u will hv success. Dont start searching any "premium templates", simpliest and shi**iest works really good since its only for bots.

Can I ask what do you use to create a HTML lander ? Do you code yourself HTML safe site ?

 

[ppcads]

Can I ask what do you use to create a HTML lander ? Do you code yourself HTML safe site ?

I dont spend time on those, i either scrape and fix or find simple html template and put random content there. I dont like to spend time on basic things. Thats how u can do things in bulk.

 

[greenmouse1111]

I dont spend time on those, i either scrape and fix or find simple html template and put random content there. I dont like to spend time on basic things. Thats how u can do things in bulk.

hey man, can we talk on telegram? my username is @greenmouse1111 - I might need help on few things, I am ready to pay for your help

 

[bartosimpsonio]

JCI told me to use PHP though because there is PHP code in the JS one but thanks for the time you took to explain !

Keep in mind that JS can run on either the client or the server. Any cloaking done on the client will likely expose your strategy.

 

[atooxi]

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[greenmouse1111]

Keep in mind that JS can run on either the client or the server. Any cloaking done on the client will likely expose your strategy.

Thanks for your answer. Do you mean I should avoid using WP and install the cloaking on the server side only ?

Or having a website coded in HTML and install the cloaking line in the HTML code + a PHP file in the server ?

 

[almobdi33]

I spent thousands of dollars finding a good cloaking service, the best one I found cost me 0$
what you should do is hide your final URL in a php or nodejs file (backend) and do a small check on the front end with javascript.
Let's say you wanna target people from Germany using Android and Chrome as a browser + german as language....
so in Javascript you will send the client device info to the php file
on the php file you'll check if the client device info are the ones that you'r looking for then redirect to your final URL otherwise transfer the traffic to another white hat legal niche page
and with that you should probably filter 99% of bots and crawlers

 

[greenmouse1111]

I spent thousands of dollars finding a good cloaking service, the best one I found cost me 0$
what you should do is hide your final URL in a php or nodejs file (backend) and do a small check on the front end with javascript.
Let's say you wanna target people from Germany using Android and Chrome as a browser + german as language....
so in Javascript you will send the client device info to the php file
on the php file you'll check if the client device info are the ones that you'r looking for then redirect to your final URL otherwise transfer the traffic to another white hat legal niche page
and with that you should probably filter 99% of bots and crawlers

Thanks for your answer man

What do you mean it cost you $0 ? Do you create cloaking by yourself ?

 

[greenmouse1111]

Keep in mind that JS can run on either the client or the server. Any cloaking done on the client will likely expose your strategy.

If i get it right, using the PHP code is safer and I should avoid the JS code for cloaking, right ?

 

[bartosimpsonio]

If i get it right, using the PHP code is safer and I should avoid the JS code for cloaking, right ?

@Yes

 

[VitalyProkofiev]

Theoretically PHP is better, (it's not visible to visitor), only way you can tell that someone is using PHP is when you find a file in his server ( if it's in external file and you need to know exact name you're looking for, and then you only know that file "exists", not what it's inside - some crawlers are looking for known or common PHP names like kclient.php, cloak.php, black.php etc.). PHP mixed in HTML code looks like plain HTML to visitors, they can't know it's even there. Downside is you can't use it everywhere.

JS is client side language, it is visible in the source code and accesible to visitors (therefore bots and crawlers) - but telling it's obviously worse is oversimplification. JS might as well be a simple code that calls for external PHP file (so you can use JS in places where you can't upload and run your own PHP code, like Shopify etc), so in that case it can be also blocked for bots. They see a call, but can't tell what it is, or they can be tricked to think it's actualy something else. Depends on bots also, and what code are they looking for.

I don't use JCI myself, but I'd suspect them to use the mixed JS/PHP version , so I wouldn't worry about it, they probably both work.

Only thing that will not work well (or not for a long time anyway) would be brutal JS redirection placed in obvious way in the code ( but I've also seen that kind of "cloaking", frontend API call to IP quality checker and redirect based on response) and it was live for few days, so plenty of options that "can" work.
Actually sometimes I just switch content on a server from white to black (delete white, upload black), Google sees it of course, but I still run it for months, go figure

 

[uaftmelo]

Cloaking is completely working on Google Ads. Don't start a new campaign immediately with cloaking

 

[polygraph]

Would some of you be willing to explain why in particular you're using clockers?

Thanks.

 

[greenmouse1111]

Actually sometimes I just switch content on a server from white to black (delete white, upload black), Google sees it of course, but I still run it for months, go figure

Thanks for your long answer man
I been successfully run ads for months on accounts that spent more than $2500 and there was no cloaking at all and the content was full black hat - I believe bots won’t scan an account that have lots of trusts and only manual reviewers can flag your compaign.

 

[greenmouse1111]

Would some of you be willing to explain why in particular you're using clockers?

Thanks.

to show a different content to bots and crawlers from real users

 

[polygraph]

to show a different content to bots and crawlers from real users

Thanks for the reply.

I think then you're better off using a paid service rather than building a solution yourself.

It's not that difficult to make a bot using puppeteer, use puppeteer-extra to disguise the fact it's a bot, and then route the traffic through residential proxies. Unless you really know what you're doing, it's unlikely you'll be able to detect that with a homegrown system. (There are many other ways to make and disguise bots.)