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Not trying to avoid anything here , just some civilized talk
I was paying only 1% of my income (had some privileges) but needed some advice on this freaking amount of Taxes being paid !
Do you actually pay that amount ? i mean its 1/5 of what i make !!
This will be my final year of not paying anything in this shithole but %18 , wtf !! is there any advice for UK businesses ?
 
No, i pay like 35% right now (plus healthcare 5k per year).
 
I'd love to pay only 18%.
for real , why ??
There is plenty of solutions to void that amount , but this shit of rat race is not one of them !
I never paid attention to this amount till this freaking january when i was trying to look for something offshore
 
for real , why ??
There is plenty of solutions to void that amount , but this shit of rat race is not one of them !
I never paid attention to this amount till this freaking january when i was trying to look for something offshore

In the USA we pay a little over 15% just for social security and Medicare taxes and then your regular income tax on top of that.
 
No, i pay like 35% right now (plus healthcare 5k per year).
how do you wake up knowing that you will pay that !! guess im fine with 18% lol !!
5k per year ? i pay less than $30 per month and i feel im being scammed !
Guess im stick to this , but guys you need some real solution , not me
 
I'm paying fixed 25% of the business income, and 50% on top of that if I took a salary (which is basically an expense of the business so it's being deducted from the first 25% so it's not really on top of that). Would love to try these 18% you are talking about :)
 
Germany is freaking expensive.

The bare minimum for health security here costs like $200 per month, even if you don't earn anything. If you are broke, social insurance will cover the costs.

But after you earn $1k monthly the cost will increase...
The same goes for employees. Me and my ex-employer paid like $900 per month together.

And if you manage to get $120k yearly profits:

$850 +- per month health insurance = $10,200 per year

Income Taxes: 50%.
 
I'm paying fixed 25% of the business income, and 50% on top of that if I took a salary (which is basically an expense of the business so it's being deducted from the first 25% so it's not really on top of that). Would love to try these 18% you are talking about :)
Now i feel sorry for myself, guys you know you can pay less ? or wtf ? whats going on here !!
 
It blows my mind really. Anything above 10% makes my head explode. Anything below 10% gives me a mild headache, unless its 0%

I dont understand how can someone live with himself paying like 50% like in some countries. No way. I quit and am going full tax evasion, or ill just be a bum and collect welfare and fuck it.

Anything above... Say 25% should be illegal. And anyone who suggests anything more than than that should be instantly executed.

But not shot. We wouldnt wanna be spending any money. We get a cage and submerge it under water for a few minutes with the thief inside. Problem solved.

Its like, the audacity of stealing half or a fourth or a fifth of someone's labor from them... Whoever comes up with that shit is clearly a danger to society and must be eliminated.

But of course, this is a losing battle. The governments will always come up with new taxes to "tax the rich" and all the "poor" will enthusiastically support these new taxes because it doesnt affect them. They can only benefit from the stolen money as some of it may trickle down to them.

But this is how governments play. They get the regulation through under false pretences, and then they start applying the new tax to more and more people, to lower and lower income people.

Theres nothing to be done...

I mean, i guess things can be done. I mean, but youd have to go full illegal, full crypto, full fake and stealth accounts and identities.

But then say you do all that, and say youve made money and yoh have a bajillion dollars worth of somecoin. Now what? You cant really buy anything because if the government cunts get a whiff of you having money, but you dont actually earn any money, theyll come in and give you the anal probe treatment and it wont be fun.

So as if it wasnt hard enough to earn your money and do it while staying outside of the system, now you need a whole new set of schemes and plans in order to legitimize your money. But them in order to do that, youre gonna have to pay some taxes. You have a friend "pretend" hire you and give you a large salary, the salary gets taxed. You start a business and you fake sales, the business costs money to operate.

Though i guess one could set up something in a 0% tax country. Would probably have to go live there. And if its a US citizen theyd have to renounce their citizenship in order to not pay taxes to the US after leaving. Well unless you feel pretty confident about your setup.. confident enough you wont get on the radar of US tax cunts, or confident enough you wont get caught doing anything illegal if you do get on their radar.

Im just laying on bed, thinking outloud. I guess anything is possible.

Well except telling people that this new millionaires tax will be a tenth of a millionaire tax and a hundredth of a millionaire tax in time. The only way to prevent it is, you take the people responsible for the millionaires tax and you impale them and set them on fire. Now this will show the next people who are entertaining the same ideas to keep it to themselves. But then about 10-20 years it sort of gets old so they try the tax again. You exterminate them again. Youre good for another decade or two hopefully.

I dont know. We're screwed. Eventually there will be no more places to run to, no escape, and we'll all be paying 90% tax. Then they increase it to 93%, but only for the super rich of course. And then for everyone. Then 95%, but only for the super rich of course. Then theyll deflate or devalue the currency or something and suddenly everyone earns enough to qualify for 95% tax, so now everyone pays it.

Its a beautiful thing man. So be compliant, pay your taxes, get your shots, and enjoy being owned bitch!
 
Germany is freaking expensive.

The bare minimum for health security here costs like $200 per month, even if you don't earn anything. If you are broke, social insurance will cover the costs.

But after you earn $1k monthly the cost will increase...
The same goes for employees. Me and my ex-employer paid like $900 per month together.

And if you manage to get $120k yearly profits:

$850 +- per month health insurance = $10,200 per year

Income Taxes: 50%.
Have some "clandestino's" friends there , you guys are just lazy (still, a good try with WW2)
Jokes aside , yeah Germany is no option for anyone who want to pay less , met lot of Germans and the main issue with them/you is the taxes
Maybe one day we can discuss this , still better than covid threads
 
It blows my mind really. Anything above 10% makes my head explode. Anything below 10% gives me a mild headache, unless its 0%

I dont understand how can someone live with himself paying like 50% like in some countries. No way. I quit and am going full tax evasion, or ill just be a bum and collect welfare and fuck it.

Anything above... Say 25% should be illegal. And anyone who suggests anything more than than that should be instantly executed.

But not shot. We wouldnt wanna be spending any money. We get a cage and submerge it under water for a few minutes with the thief inside. Problem solved.

Its like, the audacity of stealing half or a fourth or a fifth of someone's labor from them... Whoever comes up with that shit is clearly a danger to society and must be eliminated.

But of course, this is a losing battle. The governments will always come up with new taxes to "tax the rich" and all the "poor" will enthusiastically support these new taxes because it doesnt affect them. They can only benefit from the stolen money as some of it may trickle down to them.

But this is how governments play. They get the regulation through under false pretences, and then they start applying the new tax to more and more people, to lower and lower income people.

Theres nothing to be done...

I mean, i guess things can be done. I mean, but youd have to go full illegal, full crypto, full fake and stealth accounts and identities.

But then say you do all that, and say youve made money and yoh have a bajillion dollars worth of somecoin. Now what? You cant really buy anything because if the government cunts get a whiff of you having money, but you dont actually earn any money, theyll come in and give you the anal probe treatment and it wont be fun.

So as if it wasnt hard enough to earn your money and do it while staying outside of the system, now you need a whole new set of schemes and plans in order to legitimize your money. But them in order to do that, youre gonna have to pay some taxes. You have a friend "pretend" hire you and give you a large salary, the salary gets taxed. You start a business and you fake sales, the business costs money to operate.

Though i guess one could set up something in a 0% tax country. Would probably have to go live there. And if its a US citizen theyd have to renounce their citizenship in order to not pay taxes to the US after leaving. Well unless you feel pretty confident about your setup.. confident enough you wont get on the radar of US tax cunts, or confident enough you wont get caught doing anything illegal if you do get on their radar.

Im just laying on bed, thinking outloud. I guess anything is possible.

Well except telling people that this new millionaires tax will be a tenth of a millionaire tax and a hundredth of a millionaire tax in time. The only way to prevent it is, you take the people responsible for the millionaires tax and you impale them and set them on fire. Now this will show the next people who are entertaining the same ideas to keep it to themselves. But then about 10-20 years it sort of gets old so they try the tax again. You exterminate them again. Youre good for another decade or two hopefully.

I dont know. We're screwed. Eventually there will be no more places to run to, no escape, and we'll all be paying 90% tax. Then they increase it to 93%, but only for the super rich of course. And then for everyone. Then 95%, but only for the super rich of course. Then theyll deflate or devalue the currency or something and suddenly everyone earns enough to qualify for 95% tax, so now everyone pays it.

Its a beautiful thing man. So be compliant, pay your taxes, get your shots, and enjoy being owned bitch!
"0% tax country" , and " But then say you do all that, and say youve made money and yoh have a bajillion dollars worth of somecoin. Now what? You cant really buy anything because if the government cunts get a whiff of you having money, but you dont actually earn any money, theyll come in and give you the anal probe treatment and it wont be fun."
wont go into specifics but big amounts can be done , but does it worth it ?
 
"0% tax country" , and " But then say you do all that, and say youve made money and yoh have a bajillion dollars worth of somecoin. Now what? You cant really buy anything because if the government cunts get a whiff of you having money, but you dont actually earn any money, theyll come in and give you the anal probe treatment and it wont be fun."
wont go into specifics but big amounts can be done , but does it worth it ?
Just an example of one niche i "was working with" , cleaning the $$$ was the easy part , "they" "we are all" looking for that excuse to make our money legit
 
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