Indexation issues still?

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Are there still on-going indexation issues for anyone?

I regularly post blogs, and at the moment I'd say only about 50% of them are getting indexed.

There's no reason they shouldn't be, and some haven't been indexed that are like 2+ weeks old.

I know G had a lot of indexation issues to the tail end of last year, is it still happening?
 
I think everyone is experiencing the same but at least for me those pages end up being indexed after a few months anyway
 
Yah.. kind of..

Recently launched a website and without any linking .. only the domain is indexed.

Before a month a new project again, was fully indexed (over 1k pages) again without any linkbuilding etc.. within a week.
 
Yep all my sites have pages waiting to be indexed for quite a while now its ridiculous. Most are legit whitehat sites too, not sure whats up with Google. Its annoying websites like sitelike.org can get 1 million pages indexed but I can get 100
 
"Its not bug, its a feature". Google purposely introduced such filter that keep pages in "Discovered - currently not indexed" status. So they crawled the pages, but are not adding them to the index because apparently they are not good enough, which is total bull crap.

Thanks for the input.

To me that just means

G Bosses: "We're still struggling to index things, what can we do?"
Engineer: "We'll call it something - A filter function!"
G Bosses: "Brilliant solution, let's whack it into Discovered!"

I think everyone is experiencing the same but at least for me those pages end up being indexed after a few months anyway

Months.... that's just not on.
 
Thanks for the input.

To me that just means

G Bosses: "We're still struggling to index things, what can we do?"
Engineer: "We'll call it something - A filter function!"
G Bosses: "Brilliant solution, let's whack it into Discovered!"



Months.... that's just not on.
No, they did not even admit that there is such filter, but this is my personal observation of those issues. As the hard and expensive part is crawling, the easier is to add them to the index. They do the heavy lifting by actually crawl the page, but then did not add them to the index. I think they try to fight all those spam index bazillion pages autocreated websites this way, but fucked basically everyone else in the process.
 
They are filtering doorway pages and thin content to improve SERPs. If your content quality is good, 90% of your pages should automatically get indexed.
 
They are filtering doorway pages and thin content to improve SERPs. If your content quality is good, 90% of your pages should automatically get indexed.

The quality is good, generally, all the content is above 2k words, handwritten, unique, etc.

Still facing issues.
 

Taken from here https://www.facebook.com/groups/SEOSignalsLab/posts/3010720669245375/ I found this analysis quite interesting​


Indexing Paradigm Shift​


It's too early to be absolutely certain, but it is my strong suspicion that the changes we have seen in indexing, where many sites at the lower end of the 'global importance' spectrum are not getting content indexed as quickly as previously, or in some cases, having difficulty getting it indexed at all, is not entirely a temporary situation.

You see, it comes after some years of mumblings and rumblings within Google about their issues with quantity over quality spam. And coincidentally, follows right on the heels of vague announcements about new methods of dealing with spam in a spam update.

The problem for Google was sites like Quora, and a hundred other similar sites, where masses of user-generated content could produce literally hundreds of thousands of new pages over the course of just a few hours. Yet the vast majority of the new URLs this created were most often just rehashes of the same discussions on a thousand already indexed threads and URLs from the same site.

Then there is the increasing availability of so-called AI copy writing software. Software that can create huge volumes of very low quality content at almost no cost in resources. Now, Machine-generated Content spam is, despite the bullshit by the so-called AI content software, nothing new. There was software that did much the same thing years and years ago that scraped and spun existing content into new forms according to a set of rules and instructions, and all the new software is doing is calling those rules and instructions "AI".

Google have systems to deal with this.

I just believe that they are improving and extending them. Crawl Prioritization has always existed in Google, and is largely a scaleable, self-regulating thing. Every known URL that Google wants to crawl, either to index for the first time, or to revisit to check for updates, is assigned a place in the long queue according to a priority scoring system. Ultra-high priority pages and revisits get taken care of almost at once, while at the other end, ultra-low priority URLs may wait months or even years, and possibly never get a turn at all, as higher priority items get added to the queue ahead of them.

It has always been quite typical that an 'average' website with 'average' importance and link popularity values for its size would have about 90% of its content indexed, and about 10% not indexed, at any given point in time. Sites such as Amazon and Ebay might have a far, far higher percentage of unindexed product pages simply because they change so quickly, and are often at such deep levels of the site in terms of links to follow.

However, over the past years, I have seen a steady increase in the number of regular, average-ish business sites that have been advised to blog and create fresh content every few days, have a MAJORITY of their content not be freshly indexed and reindexed.

Basically, what PageRank was going into and around the site from the few pages that earned any genuine links was being spread so thin by flowing to all the thousands of essentially pointless blog posts nobody cared about, that the strength in any one page was diluted to the point where it just wasn't seen as important.

My suspicion then is that Google have tightened this up, just a little, to help them find truly worthwhile pages even in a swamp of dross, and at the same time, make it much clearer to quantity spammers that their tactic is self-destructive.

So, all of this means that the following is my advice on how to focus with content going forward:

First, do not publish new stuff just to publish new stuff. If a new page is not built to convert for a specific campaign (e.g. a new product line), or is not a well-thought out piece of content you are sure will attract a bunch of genuine new citations, rethink it.

You need to focus on more results from less pages going forward.

It is better to spend 2-3 months creating one, absolute killer piece of content, such as a major study, a really good survey with expert insights, or otherwise something truly special and remarkable that will gain you a bunch of high-value links and buzz, and have people searching *specifically* for that study/page, than to churn out minor posts a few times a week that gain minor links.

You need to focus on more results from less pages going forward.

Crawl Prioritization was always going to become more and more of an issue over time. That's how power laws work. The rich get richer.

Crawl Priority is a complex system, and some of it is driven by circumstances such as news events, big trends, and circumstances beyond your control. But a lot of it is stuff you can have some control over, or at least, intelligently leverage and influence.

'Importance' of a site is one of the signals for priority, and the factors that show importance are the strength and power (not volume) of links and citations. When a major or local news site mentions you, that is a sign of importance. When your granny mentions what a good boy you are, that isn't. If you go through some incredible shenanigans to get adopted so that you have a thousand 'Grannies', and they all cite what a good boy you are, that STILL isn't important. Focus on quality links, links that can't be bought, or faked, or gained by the worst of your rivals.

If you have pages that get a lot of search impressions, but almost no clicks, consider revising, updating, or else pruning them. If Google see that the pages it already has for your site just rarely perform, they don't tend to adjust the ranking of the site, but they may lower the priority of grabbing any more.

Raise your profile. Be part of communities and conversations. Not to have your contributions there filled with links, but so that you get mentioned more, that you are discussed because of who you collaborated with, assisted, or generally were there for. This shows a level of importance wider than just what you are saying about yourself.

If you are regularly adding content to your site, for promotions, products, or simply news and updates, make absolutely certain that you are gaining links and citations, signals of importance, even faster than you are adding content that dilutes what you have. Focus on earning great citations.

Another part of crawl priority is in supply and demand. Think very, very hard before writing content that effectively already exists out there from a thousand other sources. Focus on content that is hot topically, that is 'on trend', and especially where you have a unique perspective (or can hire one), that separates your content from the masses.
 
Did you try using any indexation service and see if it’s worked most cause few dollars but some work and some don’t so have a look, because natural indexation takes really long it seems
 
depends how new the site is I think, all of my sites with a decent DA are indexing without an issue but some newer sites are taking ages.
 
It's hard to give any weight to that text above, when site:findanyanswer.com returns 1,000,000 results.
 
depends how new the site is I think, all of my sites with a decent DA are indexing without an issue but some newer sites are taking ages.

Happening across a few sites

One is 10 years old with 40DA 43DR
 
Happening across a few sites

One is 10 years old with 40DA 43DR
Its hard to say, have you checked if there any manual actions, blocked ips against these sites. Social signals and internal links has usually sorted out any issues for me.
 
It's hard to give any weight to that text above, when site:findanyanswer.com returns 1,000,000 results.
If they have 10 000 000 pages, then this means just 10% are indexed.
Did you try using any indexation service and see if it’s worked most cause few dollars but some work and some don’t so have a look, because natural indexation takes really long it seems
Yeah not working as good as before - the google bot crawl the pages (this is what this services do - force the bot to crawl), but they did not get indexed.
They are filtering doorway pages and thin content to improve SERPs. If your content quality is good, 90% of your pages should automatically get indexed.
This is the purpose, but the execution is far from that. Low quality pages with OUR content that get copied are indexed, over ours. Simply because they spam index them with tons of shitty links. So just think about this - you publish a piece of good content, wait a week, two, nothing. Then someone copy this content, post it with 5k shitty links and boom its in the index. So no, its NOT about the content, really.
 
Still happening. Issues started back in December 2019 when they released an update. I think it was 16th December 2019. Since then its just a pain to get pages indexed. Mostly it will be enough to manually crawl them through GSC, but even then, sometimes they just disappear or get deindexed out of nowhere without any reason.
 
All started from 2019 summer update when they have split the index for mobile and desktop separately. And on Dec 2019 started to push it global on all niches. All I can say it is a random shit. Nothing to do with what SEO guru's say, nothing about quality of content and shits like that.
 
There might be too many URLs in the crawling queue, so some might be crawled and indexed later. Another issue would be a perceived quality issue, since Google may decide certain pages aren't worth crawling based on their URL pattern.
 
Its hard to say, have you checked if there any manual actions, blocked ips against these sites. Social signals and internal links has usually sorted out any issues for me.
No manual actions - the site is healthy and doing very well.

Just not indexing all the new pages.

Still happening. Issues started back in December 2019 when they released an update. I think it was 16th December 2019. Since then its just a pain to get pages indexed. Mostly it will be enough to manually crawl them through GSC, but even then, sometimes they just disappear or get deindexed out of nowhere without any reason.

I do always try push it through GSC, but it only works a small portion of the time - gone are the days when putting a page through GSC meant instant indexation
 
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