IM mafia [Journey]

[seoworld983]

Run ads on neobux you will get 100s signups every day.

 

[WhiteHatCoder]

Nice journey but,
somehow I don't feel right about
exploiting people to click, upvote, reply, etc...
the whole day and to make less than a 1$/h.

I am using 2captcha which has a few thousand
Indians clicking and solving captchas,
and I know that some of my scrapping projects
aren't possible if there is no such service.
But this still makes me feel bad.

Or let's take the hardware tech industry,
so praised $hit, Steve Jobs.

Well not just him, most corporations,
Nike, LG, etc...

So one Chinese working in a factory,
assembling those tech products
in a month doesn't make enough to buy
1/2 of that product and made 1k or more during
that month.

Materials for making microprocessors are more
or less cheap, labor is cheap, so the price of one product:

20% workers
20% taxes (for small companies, corporations pay s$it with come
offshore and some under the table deals)

so profit margins are huge, and workers which made those
possible get 0 income.

Also, I am pissed off of people here on BHW
who contacted me for my services and wanted
me to make them full-blown apps and to pay
less than a single license for which they planned
to sell that product. Well, f*** that.

Thankfully there are marketplaces where I can get
decent money for my work, but this on BHW doesn't seem
to be the case. And that's less than 5% of that product
income because SaaS products are money-making.
Especially if the market for that product is uncapped.

Sorry for writing this, but really can't wrap my head
about wealthy exploiting the poor.

That was the case 1000 years ago, and that will
be the case 1000 years in the future.

There are just a few places in the world where there
is some kind of social justice and equal opportunities.
Like Germany, Sweden, and a few EU countries.

I am not against rich people, and if we want healthy
economy, there must be lower class and higher class,
because only $$$ will make entrepreneurs, visionaries
etc, and if there is no $$$ fuel no one would invest
in medicine progress, tech progress, etc...

Just don't like someone being rich by exploiting others
works and underpaying them.

Sincerely,
WHC

 

[kelturon]

Nice journey but,
somehow I don't feel right about
exploiting people to click, upvote, reply, etc...
the whole day and to make less than a 1$/h.

I am using 2captcha which has a few thousand
Indians clicking and solving captchas,
and I know that some of my scrapping projects
aren't possible if there is no such service.
But this still makes me feel bad.

Or let's take the hardware tech industry,
so praised $hit, Steve Jobs.

Well not just him, most corporations,
Nike, LG, etc...

So one Chinese working in a factory,
assembling those tech products
in a month doesn't make enough to buy
1/2 of that product and made 1k or more during
that month.

Materials for making microprocessors are more
or less cheap, labor is cheap, so the price of one product:

20% workers
20% taxes (for small companies, corporations pay s$it with come
offshore and some under the table deals)

so profit margins are huge, and workers which made those
possible get 0 income.

Also, I am pissed off of people here on BHW
who contacted me for my services and wanted
me to make them full-blown apps and to pay
less than a single license for which they planned
to sell that product. Well, f*** that.

Thankfully there are marketplaces where I can get
decent money for my work, but this on BHW doesn't seem
to be the case. And that's less than 5% of that product
income because SaaS products are money-making.
Especially if the market for that product is uncapped.

Sorry for writing this, but really can't wrap my head
about wealthy exploiting the poor.

That was the case 1000 years ago, and that will
be the case 1000 years in the future.

There are just a few places in the world where there
is some kind of social justice and equal opportunities.
Like Germany, Sweden, and a few EU countries.

I am not against rich people, and if we want healthy
economy, there must be lower class and higher class,
because only $$$ will make entrepreneurs, visionaries
etc, and if there is no $$$ fuel no one would invest
in medicine progress, tech progress, etc...

Just don't like someone being rich by exploiting others
works and underpaying them.

Sincerely,
WHC

I agree with you and understand your position.
However, if you read my thread before leaving a comment
You can see that I develop bots that work on the worker's phones
So the income is scalable and that's what I try to achieve
Even though your position about labor and prices is slightly childish in my opinion.
We are not slave lords here as were those sirs from the countries that you mentioned
People only use the platform if they find it useful.
If you travel the world you will see that situations can vary
2$ in Germany is not 2$ in Cambodia.
My question is why format the text so strange you are?
That's life

 

[olivier]

@WhiteHatCoder
what the he*k is your problem?​

Under every topic you make everyone down. This is bad, that is bad, this is not nice etc..
People are making money:
How or how ethical it is, its not of your business.

For Gods sake shut up and get a life

 

[WhiteHatCoder]

@WhiteHatCoder​

what the he*k is your problem?​

Under every topic you make everyone down. This is bad, that is bad, this is not nice etc..
People are making money:
How or how ethical it is, its not of your business.

For Gods sake shut up and get a life

Stealing is also making money.

I said that I need those services as well 2captcha and microworkers using as well,
but this doesn't make me feel good.

There was a thread about a guy making $500 daily who was feeling bad
because this was a porn reupload and he had a family.

If we all care just about money and there is no decency,
then we haven't made a step forward from the stone age and
slavery as a society.

The only difference is that now due to the economy people
lock their chains themselves.

 

[kelturon]

Stealing is also making money.

I said that I need those services as well 2captcha and microworkers using as well,
but this doesn't make me feel good.

There was a thread about a guy making $500 daily who was feeling bad
because this was a porn reupload and he had a family.

If we all care just about money and there is no decency,
then we haven't made a step forward from the stone age and
slavery as a society.

The only difference is that now due to the economy people
lock their chains themselves.

So as far as I understand what you do is develop bots for others to fraud social networks. Do you think society benefits from that?
However, what I do is help people who are THEMSELVES looking for online money-making opportunities. They join because THEY DO need that opportunity due to many various factors. And as I said before I do think about how to make it possible for my people to scale the income. That's why I am using the semi-automated approach for my crowd-tasking platform. it means the human is called only there where it is economically proven to be worth involving a human to participate.
I believe you just need a little bit more time to learn about what I am doing here to change your position about the social positive impact of my project.
Will it be a success or not is a different topic.

 

[WhiteHatCoder]

So as far as I understand what you do is develop bots for others to fraud social networks. Do you think society benefits from that?
However, what I do is help people who are THEMSELVES looking for online money-making opportunities. They join because THEY DO need that opportunity due to many various factors. And as I said before I do think about how to make it possible for my people to scale the income. That's why I am using the semi-automated approach for my crowd-tasking platform. it means the human is called only there where it is economically proven to be worth involving a human to participate.
I believe you just need a little bit more time to learn about what I am doing here to change your position about the social positive impact of my project.
Will it be a success or not is a different topic.

And you don't use automation?

Like your 100% POSITIVE AND GENUINE YT SCRAPPING?

AND YT COMMENTS TO REDIRECT TRAFFIC?

WHICH COMPETITION DOES TOO,

YOUR PROJECT IS I THINK OK MOSTLY,
LIKE EXTRA CASH APPS,

SO I WAS MORE TALKING ABOUT THE WORLD IN GENERAL.

SORRY FOR BUMPING YOUR THREAD,

THERE WAS MISUNDERSTANDING

 

[kelturon]

And you don't use automation?

Like your 100% POSITIVE AND GENUINE YT SCRAPPING?

AND YT COMMENTS TO REDIRECT TRAFFIC?

WHICH COMPETITION DOES TOO,

YOUR PROJECT IS I THINK OK MOSTLY,
LIKE EXTRA CASH APPS,

SO I WAS MORE TALKING ABOUT THE WORLD IN GENERAL.

SORRY FOR BUMPING YOUR THREAD,

THERE WAS MISUNDERSTANDING

You are always welcome to bump my threads bro;d

 

[kelturon]

 

[kelturon]

The referral system is working like charm. I am seeing refs of the refs coming
We have started producing a new product. In the following 1-2 weeks I will market the product and depending on how it will go we will either continue growing or I will have to think of another product.

 

[thescrrr]

Nice journey, good luck!

 

[kelturon]

all-time high workers in parallel today.



Some of them use several devices. So even more smartphones are plugged in into the system.
It's getting pretty time-consuming to manage everything.

 

[kelturon]

I have successfully created the Gmail bot that runs on the worker's devices. I have tested that this approach is doable. It is possible to find workers and automate their mobile devices. This is a win-win the workers are making money almost on autopilot I am getting cheap bots. The main problem is the data cost. However, in many countries FB is free (this is a teaser for the future twists).

As for now, I am working on rolling out an Instagram bot. Again, it will work remotely on the worker's real devices. I already have one running on my own mobile phone. It can follow, like, filter people, skip business accounts, scrape, check if the person is male or female, decide to skip an account if follower/following ratio is too high. So, overall, the bot seems to be pretty smart. My main concern is regarding Instagram data costs.

 

[kelturon]

Overall my action plan is kinda like this atm:
1. Put the insta bot into production. The main product will be insta promotion aka mother/child service
2. market the product on fiverr and directly to Instagram businesses
3. Build an email autoresponder sequence for the workers to opt-in. Create a video for people telling them how they can use my bot to automate their mobile phone and make money with my website. Publish this video on a landing page with aweber email opt-in form. Promise people access to the bot and tutorial series for email opt-in. From the email follow-up sequence redirect people to my youtube channel with tutorial + website sign up form.
4. Buy pop/push ads for the worker opt-in landing page.
5. Scale the insta botnet while scaling the sales.

Let's see what this turns out to be...

 

[kelturon]

tomorrow's "to do" list

 

[kelturon]

Lately was working on a bot that can check the task reports of my workers. Those which they performed manually. Like inviting people to a Facebook group. Sometimes I have a couple of thousands of reports per day. It's impossible to check all that manually myself.

I have started with using tesseract to recognize all the text in the screenshots that they provide as reports and regex for specific patterns which signify a successful competition. However, at some point, I realized that the text is full of emojis and smiles. In fact, there are so many of those entities that it's easier to treat that text as an image, not a text. So I decided to go with OpenCV template matching to search for a specific image inside my image. However, due to screen resolution variations and whatever the hell other variations template matching algorithms performed very poorly. I was astonished and very tired of spending a couple of days on this bot with little to no success when I found the OpenCV feature matching approach. It detects specific patterns inside the image and searches for those patterns inside another image. This way it can detect stuff even if rotation or some distortion is happening.... Finally using this method + restricting my workers from using funny fonts I was able to reach some decent results. It's really cool to see the reports being efficiently checked by a robot.

This week I feel like a *** junior scientist, not an I. marketer. lol.

 

[kelturon]

So the new worker funnel is going to be as follows:
Push ad => single opt-in page with the video from the post above => my platform main page as TY page after email sign up (I know I could just send the emails to aweber via API but my platform homepage is not optimized for the angle I wanna market. On the platform page, I have my own push subscription now.

So, those users who sign up but dont turn into active workers, I'm going to send them an email sequence. Advertising my smartphone money robot and giving them value + sending them to the youtube channel.

I have already set up the opt-in page (LP), set up bemob, and conversion pixel (to track those who sign up), as I want to use push ads (targeting eng speaking T3 countries + only android 7.0+ devices.

Zeropark campaign is pending revue

As mentioned in the post above the following couple of weeks will be a moment of truth for my platform. As if I will be able to deliver the 3k $ order I think the platform will gain enough momentum for the things to really start getting big.

I hope this is a great beginning.

Fingers crossed.
Wish me luck.

 

[PPC_BOSS]

Good Luck on your journey.!

 

[dankestmemes]

So the new worker funnel is going to be as follows:
Push ad => single opt-in page with the video from the post above => my platform main page as TY page after email sign up (I know I could just send the emails to aweber via API but my platform homepage is not optimized for the angle I wanna market. On the platform page, I have my own push subscription now.

So, those users who sign up but dont turn into active workers, I'm going to send them an email sequence. Advertising my smartphone money robot and giving them value + sending them to the youtube channel.

I have already set up the opt-in page (LP), set up bemob, and conversion pixel (to track those who sign up), as I want to use push ads (targeting eng speaking T3 countries + only android 7.0+ devices.

Zeropark campaign is pending revue

As mentioned in the post above the following couple of weeks will be a moment of truth for my platform. As if I will be able to deliver the 3k $ order I think the platform will gain enough momentum for the things to really start getting big.

I hope this is a great beginning.

Fingers crossed.
Wish me luck.

Hey, how much can 1 device make under your program?

 

[kelturon]

***** hetnzer banned my server again... Absolutely for nothing. I was not doing anything against their policies.
The main abuse of their policies is the country I was born in, even I dont live there for 5 years now.
Really hate this racism ****