Do you think coding is boring and stressful?
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AlexanderTheGreat
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I'm Alexander the Great.
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So I only hire the greatest Coders on Upwork !
theeyeinside
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Over 30 years ago the corporations and universities working together
discovered a strange thing. Computer programming cannot be taught.
It needs to be discovered.
Like Air Traffic Controllers, Computer Programmers are born. They are born with certain
circuits in their brain that enable them to program computers and do it consistently
over a long period of time.
So the corporations, being short of programmers and seeing the future that would need
even more and more programmers, changed their way of thinking.
They created pre-package, pre-designed Enterprise grade systems that could be configured
on the fly to perform "almost all" the functions required for a certain corporate
division (Human Resources, Accounting, Customer Relationships, Sales and Distribution, etc
The result was the modern ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) systems.
So to a person born with the skill, programming will always be relatively easy and not boring.
To a person that was not born with the skill, they can still learn it but it might eventually
be seen as boring and stressful.
On top of this, most programmers code "on the fly" without flow charts, without functional
specification documents, without technical specification documents and without a technical
design document, so yes it is difficult and stressful.
Sincerely,
The Eye
discovered a strange thing. Computer programming cannot be taught.
It needs to be discovered.
Like Air Traffic Controllers, Computer Programmers are born. They are born with certain
circuits in their brain that enable them to program computers and do it consistently
over a long period of time.
So the corporations, being short of programmers and seeing the future that would need
even more and more programmers, changed their way of thinking.
They created pre-package, pre-designed Enterprise grade systems that could be configured
on the fly to perform "almost all" the functions required for a certain corporate
division (Human Resources, Accounting, Customer Relationships, Sales and Distribution, etc
The result was the modern ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) systems.
So to a person born with the skill, programming will always be relatively easy and not boring.
To a person that was not born with the skill, they can still learn it but it might eventually
be seen as boring and stressful.
On top of this, most programmers code "on the fly" without flow charts, without functional
specification documents, without technical specification documents and without a technical
design document, so yes it is difficult and stressful.
Sincerely,
The Eye
ManageManga
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Absolutely not, its pretty fun and interesting. Though that depends on the perspective and from person to person
NO-CLUE-SEO
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A NATURAL CODER.
If u find coding boring it's not for u. Don't do it.
I have been coding over 20 yrs, I find it easy.
If you go and buy a course in coding, ur doing the wrong thing, it's pointless. When, I code I have a target in mind, I can see the endpoint before I start, I think the project through before I start it, I highlight the tough parts in my own mind and do a short test and see if it works on those parts first.
When everything is sorted in my own mind and I'm convinced I can complete the project, that's when I start putting the project together.
I write quick code, my fingers work before my brain has to think things out, I can see the problems on the screen, my brain doesn't even have to figure the problem, as 9 out of 10 times I have already seen the solution, and corrected it.
I don't have time to get bored through the coding process as I'm writing code as quick as I can go, because I want to get the project finished and get the end result.
This is the result of 20+yrs experience, I started in asm code years ago when memory was in short supply, so I learnt to code extra small. I code in vb6, c++, python, php, js.
To Everyone who says the new languages are the best to use, bullshit, you don't know what ur talking about, I use whatever language there is that gets the job done, old or new, it does the same thing.
So if you find coding boring, it's either not for you, or u haven't found the right target in mind to code.
Put it this way, if you had an idea that could make u a million dollars, and u knew that to write application would achieve that goal,don't u think u would do it, and quickly.
If u find coding boring it's not for u. Don't do it.
I have been coding over 20 yrs, I find it easy.
If you go and buy a course in coding, ur doing the wrong thing, it's pointless. When, I code I have a target in mind, I can see the endpoint before I start, I think the project through before I start it, I highlight the tough parts in my own mind and do a short test and see if it works on those parts first.
When everything is sorted in my own mind and I'm convinced I can complete the project, that's when I start putting the project together.
I write quick code, my fingers work before my brain has to think things out, I can see the problems on the screen, my brain doesn't even have to figure the problem, as 9 out of 10 times I have already seen the solution, and corrected it.
I don't have time to get bored through the coding process as I'm writing code as quick as I can go, because I want to get the project finished and get the end result.
This is the result of 20+yrs experience, I started in asm code years ago when memory was in short supply, so I learnt to code extra small. I code in vb6, c++, python, php, js.
To Everyone who says the new languages are the best to use, bullshit, you don't know what ur talking about, I use whatever language there is that gets the job done, old or new, it does the same thing.
So if you find coding boring, it's either not for you, or u haven't found the right target in mind to code.
Put it this way, if you had an idea that could make u a million dollars, and u knew that to write application would achieve that goal,don't u think u would do it, and quickly.
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Thanks, I would say all the same as you but I have 2 years of experience, lol
How can you not love having literally no boundaries to problem solve opportunities? Looking forward to being a 20 year old programmer one day soon!
ensus
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Full-stack dev here not out of choice, i started "coding" when i was playing habbohotel when i was like 13, i created a geocities account, made a website that offered free coins and furni, shared the link on the game, just enter your user and pass
A very basic php script that stores input information, this was hard for me to understand without any prior understand on how servers worked, why there were permissions to create files and serving files, so i learned all that - simply because i wanted to scam furniture in a pixel game.
Around when i was 14 was on newgrounds constantly, was inspired to make my own flash games, so learned actionscript.... Then RuneScape had a forum called moparscape that released its client opensource, so making your own private RS server so you could have all the gold would require you to download and learn Java............ All because i wanted to have 1bn gp
I noticed around that time though, sites like rentacoder where people were offering money for shit i was doing for banter, and a 14 year old money is only coming from your grandma, so i applied for literally everyjob acting like i could do the work, this is when the market wasnt saturated, and my proposal usually got accepted after 2 or 3 replies, so when i end up with around 5 jobs for like $300 in total, i just pick the ones i actually CAN do and learn on the job.. all because i wanted the money
After school i realize ive wasted my life with no real world applicable skills apart from the side hustle web development, and i need money, so i freelanced, rented a hotdesk and just did this.... I didnt know before making this a career how fucking stressful and boring this shit really is.
I look at todays job market and the demand is insane, tech is moving too quick and it would be stupid not to keep going with it.
Long story short, i literally hate this job (web dev), it was a hobby to the ends of the product i wanted to see, it should never have been my career. Now i have 10 years of DevOps experience from major companies in tech stacks, so am technically a senior dev
money = golden handcuffs
I'm more into machine learning now and some side projects
A very basic php script that stores input information, this was hard for me to understand without any prior understand on how servers worked, why there were permissions to create files and serving files, so i learned all that - simply because i wanted to scam furniture in a pixel game.
Around when i was 14 was on newgrounds constantly, was inspired to make my own flash games, so learned actionscript.... Then RuneScape had a forum called moparscape that released its client opensource, so making your own private RS server so you could have all the gold would require you to download and learn Java............ All because i wanted to have 1bn gp
I noticed around that time though, sites like rentacoder where people were offering money for shit i was doing for banter, and a 14 year old money is only coming from your grandma, so i applied for literally everyjob acting like i could do the work, this is when the market wasnt saturated, and my proposal usually got accepted after 2 or 3 replies, so when i end up with around 5 jobs for like $300 in total, i just pick the ones i actually CAN do and learn on the job.. all because i wanted the money
After school i realize ive wasted my life with no real world applicable skills apart from the side hustle web development, and i need money, so i freelanced, rented a hotdesk and just did this.... I didnt know before making this a career how fucking stressful and boring this shit really is.
I look at todays job market and the demand is insane, tech is moving too quick and it would be stupid not to keep going with it.
Long story short, i literally hate this job (web dev), it was a hobby to the ends of the product i wanted to see, it should never have been my career. Now i have 10 years of DevOps experience from major companies in tech stacks, so am technically a senior dev
money = golden handcuffs
I'm more into machine learning now and some side projects
justalazyseo
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Of course this is all subjective opinions, but I don't think so at all.
Code is absolute - it's either right or wrong. If there is a mistake, it's because I made it. Not because computer is not feeling like it, having a bad day or something else of that sort. It forces me to challenge myself as every bug, every error is a chance for self-improvement.
Is it sometimes a lot of grinding? Yes. But in the end, I have created something. I have successfully communicated complex operation to computer and get it to do what I need it to do.
It's beautiful
Code is absolute - it's either right or wrong. If there is a mistake, it's because I made it. Not because computer is not feeling like it, having a bad day or something else of that sort. It forces me to challenge myself as every bug, every error is a chance for self-improvement.
Is it sometimes a lot of grinding? Yes. But in the end, I have created something. I have successfully communicated complex operation to computer and get it to do what I need it to do.
It's beautiful
HustleTong
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I personally enjoy educating myself on Crypto and stuff as such
NO-CLUE-SEO
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Full-stack dev here not out of choice, i started "coding" when i was playing habbohotel when i was like 13, i created a geocities account, made a website that offered free coins and furni, shared the link on the game, just enter your user and pass
A very basic php script that stores input information, this was hard for me to understand without any prior understand on how servers worked, why there were permissions to create files and serving files, so i learned all that - simply because i wanted to scam furniture in a pixel game.
Around when i was 14 was on newgrounds constantly, was inspired to make my own flash games, so learned actionscript.... Then RuneScape had a forum called moparscape that released its client opensource, so making your own private RS server so you could have all the gold would require you to download and learn Java............ All because i wanted to have 1bn gp
I noticed around that time though, sites like rentacoder where people were offering money for shit i was doing for banter, and a 14 year old money is only coming from your grandma, so i applied for literally everyjob acting like i could do the work, this is when the market wasnt saturated, and my proposal usually got accepted after 2 or 3 replies, so when i end up with around 5 jobs for like $300 in total, i just pick the ones i actually CAN do and learn on the job.. all because i wanted the money
After school i realize ive wasted my life with no real world applicable skills apart from the side hustle web development, and i need money, so i freelanced, rented a hotdesk and just did this.... I didnt know before making this a career how fucking stressful and boring this shit really is.
I look at todays job market and the demand is insane, tech is moving too quick and it would be stupid not to keep going with it.
Long story short, i literally hate this job (web dev), it was a hobby to the ends of the product i wanted to see, it should never have been my career. Now i have 10 years of DevOps experience from major companies in tech stacks, so am technically a senior dev
money = golden handcuffs
I'm more into machine learning now and some side projects
money = golden handcuffs
He's right here, the more u earn, the harder it is to leave.
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After 11 years with Android coding I stopped this, not only because Google screwed Android.
Not switched to iOS, I plan to learn some Python for fun but that's all.
Why? Life is short. I don't want to die with only memories: IDE, coding, bugs
If I would go to regular job now, probably military
Not switched to iOS, I plan to learn some Python for fun but that's all.
Why? Life is short. I don't want to die with only memories: IDE, coding, bugs
If I would go to regular job now, probably military
ensus
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- Jul 25, 2018
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Me and a friend started a landscaping company 10 years ago, i was like "ah fuck this i want a nice warm office job"After 11 years with Android coding I stopped this, not only because Google screwed Android.
Not switched to iOS, I plan to learn some Python for fun but that's all.
Why? Life is short. I don't want to die with only memories: IDE, coding, bugs
If I would go to regular job now, probably military
Now i envy him
Full-stack dev here not out of choice, i started "coding" when i was playing habbohotel when i was like 13, i created a geocities account, made a website that offered free coins and furni, shared the link on the game, just enter your user and pass
A very basic php script that stores input information, this was hard for me to understand without any prior understand on how servers worked, why there were permissions to create files and serving files, so i learned all that - simply because i wanted to scam furniture in a pixel game.
Around when i was 14 was on newgrounds constantly, was inspired to make my own flash games, so learned actionscript.... Then RuneScape had a forum called moparscape that released its client opensource, so making your own private RS server so you could have all the gold would require you to download and learn Java............ All because i wanted to have 1bn gp
I noticed around that time though, sites like rentacoder where people were offering money for shit i was doing for banter, and a 14 year old money is only coming from your grandma, so i applied for literally everyjob acting like i could do the work, this is when the market wasnt saturated, and my proposal usually got accepted after 2 or 3 replies, so when i end up with around 5 jobs for like $300 in total, i just pick the ones i actually CAN do and learn on the job.. all because i wanted the money
After school i realize ive wasted my life with no real world applicable skills apart from the side hustle web development, and i need money, so i freelanced, rented a hotdesk and just did this.... I didnt know before making this a career how fucking stressful and boring this shit really is.
I look at todays job market and the demand is insane, tech is moving too quick and it would be stupid not to keep going with it.
Long story short, i literally hate this job (web dev), it was a hobby to the ends of the product i wanted to see, it should never have been my career. Now i have 10 years of DevOps experience from major companies in tech stacks, so am technically a senior dev
money = golden handcuffs
I'm more into machine learning now and some side projects
Doing coding with 13, 14 sounds amazing. First coding for me was on rainmeter, a graphical desktop design tool.
nuclearrap
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Still coding today for 12 hours, can't quit it like cocaine. A strange love-hate relationship.
