My Journey To 20k/Month With E-M...
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I hope to learn the basics of email marketing with the help of this thread.
darshanright
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google groups is dacad old ....& now a days people not aware from this .. this is gold u have to google it for more info... & yes u have to put all list in groups...
I been interested in building a list and email marketing for a while because that is where the money really is. The only problem its not easy from building and then cleaning, using servers, keeping them out of spam, reaching your list etc...Update :
Lot of things happened, Some are good some are Bad, Lets start with the bad one :
1/- Didn't reach 10k for this month the earning was close to the privous month and that means it will take more time than i expected to reach my goals...
2/- i tried Auto-Reply for gmail and the result was really horrible they are blocked in most ESP's i mean even those small ESP's :
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But i found a solution to avoid that issue , because by default when you send emails using vocation-option (auto-reply) gmail uses it default from wish is : [email protected] and most ESPs block that so the solution is to change the from, what i did is change it to [email protected] and then the message were not blocked, the issue they were sent to spam and that made me mad, why? cause it took a lot of time and budget i bought about 500 gmail account.... i mean even sending just "hey" in subject without body without link it goes to spam...
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but hey, it is okey nothing comes easy, at the end of the day i learned something that doesn't work wish i will avoid for future test.
3/- lost some very good servers they were very good but got terminated for abuses. anyway enough talk about bad things...
The good news is that i tried an old methode that still works and i tried it yesterday and it was really nice to see it working, before we get to that let me share with you the stats of the previous month :
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as you can see the last day of the previous month i got a new sending records 3.5M a day, i will tell you the storry behind that....
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So what is the secret about sending 3.5M emails a day, the fact is that those emails were spam and i wanted them to be like that, cause i dont send spam i mean like ever...
the thing is that i tried a methode called 'REPLY' what does this mean is :
lets say i have a domaine called yaness.co.uk linked to a server with ip 116.116.116.116 and i send an email to [email protected], the email goes to spam, and if somehow the user [email protected] replied to my message with the domaine yaness.co.uk, next time i will try to send a new message to [email protected] it will go to inbox.
yep inbox, why?
because when the user replied to my message the ESPs, this case 'gmail.com' will turn the domaine yaness.co.uk as a trusted sender, and it will keep those coming emails going to inbox, but the question is how to make sure that those emails you send get a response by the users, i mean why they reply to you?? i mean why would i reply to those emails? yo knew the negerien king who want you to become a millionaire??? a girl looking to meet with you? a girl saying hey honey how are you?? i mean people will reply dont you think!! but to me i found a better way, what i did :
i created a new template with the following :
from : AdultSite
subject : Please confirm your Subscription [name]!
in the body i said hey [name] this message is to inform that you account was created and now you can receive and chat with hotchiks..... in you area, if you want to keep receiveng those emails please reply with : yes, and if you want to stop receiving those emails please reply with unsubscribe me..
and of course this just an exemple of the body i send, i mean i have a real proffesional one that is minebut just to give you the idée
so the thing worked very well and i have gathered about 37K emails from that 3.5M emails i sent, and now they are fixed inbox every mails sent
EARNED :
This month : 7860$
SPENT :
Servers : 560$
Domains : about 213$ if not mistaking
Gmail Webmails : 500$
NEXT GOAL :
i will keep working with this methode, creating new domains , then bulk spam then collect those emails and dropping inbox... i will try to spam around 5M to 10M a day all i need is to buy new servers i mean this time will be bulk like 80 100 servers yeep a lot of work to be done, and money to be made, hope this month will pass the $20k.
I have a few questions. Some are basic others not.
1 - You bought your database these means you bought all those email but they arent subscribe and you don't have permission to contact them correct? Its like getting all the emails from public websites and the internet then you cold email them trying to convert them to subscribers right?
2 - how do you convert them to subscribers? Do you just start sending an email promoting a offer? Then add the ones that bought the product to a niche list and keep resending other offers until they convert, unscribe (do your inital email have an unscribe button?), complain?
3 - you use mutiple domains and emails so if your list starts to convert each email you send can be from wherever domain. The lead can see the email comes from a domain that doesnt have a website, the email it self can seem scammy example: [email protected] wouldn't this affect the decision to buy or follow your offers from the lead? Or to create an actual brand arround your database list?
wheeeeeeeeeee
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Definitely following this thread. Amaing things going on here. Keep up the update!
jake lionar
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it is possible to do what you just said, and by cold email them you can add in your template if they are interested to receive emails from you, if no then you give them an option to unsub, else you ask them what kind of offer they are intersted in like health promo freebies crypto giftt-cards loans tax..... but for me i tried a different way i didn't ask anything from them i startted by dropping diferents offers and add unsubscribe option if they dont want to receive futur emails from health niche for exemple then i remove them from health offers and send promo offers to them if they unsub for promo offers i try different niche when i see them not intersted in any niche i just remove them from my mailing list... and then i start biulding my own lists on every niche, i think i have explained that on previous cooments.
i only use mu domaine to redirect the user to the offer page i dont have any landing page on my domains, they only forward the user to affiliate product, hope that what you meant.
Not exactly what i meant.
Example you use mutiple domains so in the "from" (sender) you will always have a diferent domain yes you can have all of them redirect to your landing page but wouldn't that have a big effect on the conversions?
I mean even when i was like 15 years old (and that was a long time ago before i knew anything about IM) when i received unsolicitated emails i always looked at the domain (from) if it was something like [email protected] i would immediately send the email to spam. If it was something more professional like [email protected] i would search for the domain and maybe click on the link on the email but if it redirected me to another domain would instantly close the site and send the email to spam.
Now we are in 2021 lots of people receive spam and are more tech swavy then when i was 15 years old wouldn't a bigger percentage of people ignore the email when they se the domain or get redirected to another domain or send it to spam.
I know there is still lots of people that would just click on the link and buy the offer but thats got to be a very few percentage
jake lionar
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that why you need professional domaines not just some spamy domains with extension like domaine.xyz or domain.site... i choice for exemple yourhealthylife.com for health offers .... and to be honest it doesn't matter even using other domaines all that matters is inbox... since people dont see the original domain that mail come from, since most ESPs use the aliace before domaine like this :
from : Burn-Fat (admin@[domain])
in this case the user will only see the from as Burn-Fat and not the FQDN, only if he click on view message header info..
chrisuchiim
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So how are you monetizing? Affiliate marketing or inboxads thing?
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The real term is email spamming.
Not my thing. There are better ways to make money than this.
jake lionar
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thanks sadi9i
some huges lists, added capture in the start of the thread, from a russia guy, now working with india seller that sells data by niche.
Thanks MateThis is a very good thread. Keep us updated for more! This is exciting
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chrisuchiim
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so, how are you making them to buy from you since there is no much relationship? you are buying data and mailing them than building list?
Care to elaborate on these better ways?
jake lionar
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didn't get this, but no relationship mate aahahha
exactly my friend.
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I suspect because you get a response from a test email them emails are known opt-in same as the opt-in form way.
But your way gets inbox verification.
I don't think you can class your emails as spam because your only responding to replied tested emails.
Very interesting Gd luck.
This is a nice way to get verified lists as well but with inbox verification.
Ps.
Because the emails are now fully verified and niche related, I wonder if their value is worth more in selling them, from a afflicate deal .
I suspect because you get a response from a test email them emails are known opt-in same as the opt-in form way.
But your way gets inbox verification.
I don't think you can class your emails as spam because your only responding to replied tested emails.
Very interesting Gd luck.
This is a nice way to get verified lists as well but with inbox verification.
Ps.
Because the emails are now fully verified and niche related, I wonder if their value is worth more in selling them, from a afflicate deal .
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What affiliate/CPA networks you are working with?
As someone who used to send million's of emails, I wonder, how do you approach redirects? It's One of the main pain
Btw, you might be interested in the email lists that I can provide. Maybe we can discuss in private.
As someone who used to send million's of emails, I wonder, how do you approach redirects? It's One of the main pain
Btw, you might be interested in the email lists that I can provide. Maybe we can discuss in private.