14k wasted away

[YTPro]

being legit means he's really earn what he claim he earn from his channel. I don't know why you connect it with he buying fake views for his customers

They are referring to what he's done for his client's channels buddy, not his earnings. Anyways, @pupur External views doesn't always mean buyed views. Not defending Jon in any kind of way as he still owes me more than 8.5k$ from some services my team has provided him with and is acting shady on my end as well, might open a shitlist as well if this continues for a few more days. External Views may come from promotion sources like sharing your video link to one of his bigger channels community tab. By having a look at your channel & amount of views / likes and comments they don't seems like fake traffic / views. Still, I'm Sorry this happened to you. Wish you all the best moving forward

 

[Priince1337]

being legit means he's really earn what he claim he earn from his channel. I don't know why you connect it with he buying fake views for his customers

Because this is what the thread is about. The discussion is not about whether his earnings are true or not. OP dropped 14k on him. You'd expect that for someone that claims to make thousands each month it would be easy to kickstart their client accounts. Barely any video hit more than 200 views, some even less than 50. So what's up here? He's been uploading for almost 6 months now, so you can't even say he should be patient. His money literally went dont the drain and on top of that he received botted views to make the service look "legit".

 

[whitecupg]

Let's be honest, no one searches the niche shown on the screenshot or any other niche, you are supposed to make money when YouTube randomly selects your video into suggested/recommendation. This doesn't always happen of course just need some luck, you could already tell this by the sample account shown by the seller, some videos will have 1k views while some might have 500k

and regarding views, how do you know it's fake?

 

[dddoyz]

Because this is what the thread is about. The discussion is not about whether his earnings are true or not. OP dropped 14k on him. You'd expect that for someone that claims to make thousands each month it would be easy to kickstart their client accounts. Barely any video hit more than 200 views, some even less than 50. So what's up here? He's been uploading for almost 6 months now, so you can't even say he should be patient. His money literally went dont the drain and on top of that he received botted views to make the service look "legit".

Yes, and that's why I use the quote.

I'm replying someone who ask "why would someone who claim he's earn $10,000 a month and has knowledge to double the income would mess by accepting some services work". Implying that he think Jon is a fraud and only claim his earning instead of really earn the money. and that's why I said 'he's legit' in the term of his earning.

Btw, I agree with OP about he won't be pissed if Jon upload the video on time. Despite his channel is 6 months, the upload isn't scheduled greatly. I count the channel sometimes has 7 videos upload per month, sometimes has 10 videos uploaded per month, some even only has 2 videos per month. while OP is ordering 130 videos. If the video uploaded daily, I think it can be viral and succeed.

 

[Priince1337]

Despite his channel is 6 months, the upload isn't scheduled greatly. I count the channel sometimes has 7 videos upload per month, sometimes has 10 videos uploaded per month, some even only has 2 videos per month. while OP is ordering 130 videos. If the video uploaded daily, I think it can be viral and succeed.

Yeah no joke. What is he paying for if Jon can't keep the schedule.

 

[pupur]

They are referring to what he's done for his client's channels buddy, not his earnings. Anyways, @pupur External views doesn't always mean buyed views. Not defending Jon in any kind of way as he still owes me more than 8.5k$ from some services my team has provided him with and is acting shady on my end as well, might open a shitlist as well if this continues for a few more days. External Views may come from promotion sources like sharing your video link to one of his bigger channels community tab. By having a look at your channel & amount of views / likes and comments they don't seems like fake traffic / views. Still, I'm Sorry this happened to you. Wish you all the best moving forward

True. They might be from a community board, the activity is pretty organic. They were used to manipulate me into buying, whatever their source. Sorry for the 8.5k. My Shitlist post got approved, so I encourage you to start one if he doesn't comply.

 

[YTPro]

True. They might be from a community board, the activity is pretty organic. They were used to manipulate me into buying, whatever their source. Sorry for the 8.5k. My Shitlist post got approved, so I encourage you to start one if he doesn't comply.

I don't recall him ever offering viral / guaranteed results on clients other than the videos / monetized channel, thumbnails etc tho. I also don't see a reason for you to be mad at him if you ordered his service and he just promoted your channel through his other channels. He was trying to bring you results after all. But if he advertised you to buying his service this way than you're completely right. Also It seems he hasn't been consistent with uploads etc so go for it. I searched but still am unable to find your shitlist thread. Can you link it here please? I would like to see his response to this first as I'm not a client to him but a provider.

 

[pupur]

I don't recall him ever offering viral / guaranteed results on clients other than the videos / monetized channel, thumbnails etc tho. I also don't see a reason for you to be mad at him if you ordered his service and he just promoted your channel through his other channels. He was trying to bring you results after all. But if he advertised you to buying his service this way than you're completely right. Also It seems he hasn't been consistent with uploads etc so go for it. I searched but still am unable to find your shitlist thread. Can you link it here please? I would like to see his response to this first as I'm not a client to him but a provider.

" As the accuser has spent several days trying to contact you and work this out for you, failure to initially respond to this conversation in 8 hours or work this out amicably via this conversation in a reasonable amount of time will result in the shit list thread going live. " It will be live after he answers I guess.

I know, I couldn't care about the number of views if the content was okay. I care because I message him very often to upload and schedule the videos, but it never happens. I just wanted the videos uploaded consistently (as I agreed with him). But he lied.

 

[YTPro]

" As the accuser has spent several days trying to contact you and work this out for you, failure to initially respond to this conversation in 8 hours or work this out amicably via this conversation in a reasonable amount of time will result in the shit list thread going live. " It will be live after he answers I guess.

I know, I couldn't care about the number of views if the content was okay. I care because I message him very often to upload and schedule the videos, but it never happens. I just wanted the videos uploaded consistently (as I agreed with him). But he lied.

Got it. Yeah, it should be live after the given timeframe by mods. 14k is a relatively high price to pay and get neglected to the point they don't take your uploading schedule seriously.

Aside from the topic: What to do you think of the videos & thumbnails quality and prices?

 

[pocketttt]

im sorry for your loss, you should shitlist him

 

[MrWhite2018]

As soon as I managed to find him on Fiverr selling services, I knew he wasn’t legit, sorry you fell into the trap!

 

[Fresh Ideas Marketing]

Oh my god ! No shitlist yet?
Then you all were comfortable with money lost and blaming him uselessly. Just open shitlist guys to prove your thing.

He was biggest BHW youtuber of 2020

 

[polecat]

It may be silly for me to write this, but, that was felt in the air.

Another thing and proof that if you see someone making thousands of dollars and at the same time trying to sell some 20, 30 times cheaper packages, ask yourself why this is so.

Why would I, if I have $10,000 a month and have enough knowledge to double that with my work, why would I mess with some packages and bring a hill of some other people and work for them?

Someone defended him on this forum with their review, honestly, I would like to hear the same people now?

Hope all of you get your money back, if I'm not wrong there was not a single channel that made at least double the amount they have invested.

I would agree with you .

 

[Fresh Ideas Marketing]

OP external views are good, you just need to check the source in detail.
They in log run if continue will make a lot for you. But, again you need to check if they are bought or real

 

[Danezz]

As soon as I managed to find him on Fiverr selling services, I knew he wasn’t legit, sorry you fell into the trap!

What fiverr services?

 

[MrWhite2018]

What fiverr services?

I’m not going to post on here, I found him there sharing his channels as “proof” offering to help build customers channels, he sent the samples on there via DM. They were the same channels he shared on here. I always do my DD before investing.

 

[Deleted member 658642]

Actually i was never his client because he never charged me.

If this is true, disregard my above posts. Good on him for helping out.

 

[MrWhite2018]

Bought wengthemeng's service for a youtube channel. It was a nightmare.
We agreed that he will post consistently on the channel. Every other day.
Even if you tell him everyday, he will not schedule the videos.
He is a manipulator and a liar. The channel sucks.
At first, i paid 4k for 30 videos. When he uploaded the last, he bought views on one of them to make me believe that the channel will grow.
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Externe means = external ( so bought views basically )
He is a thief and keeps lying to you.
Refunds are out of the question of course.
https://youtube.com/user/amjahed1This is the channel. As you can see, besides the bought views video, no other video made 2.5k views even.
If you have money, and a succesful business, dont trust random people on the internet, even if they have tons and tons of fans.
I have a succesful business irl, thought i might invest in a youtube channel, worst decision of my life.

What’s happening about this are you opening a shitlist?

 

[MrWhite2018]

Posted the shitlist also. With more info.

where is it I can’t find it?

 

[sparkle10]

oh man ,come on,you are my fellow rumanian,feeling sorry for you but next time open your eyes please,don't go like our girls at 'puf',think well before you take actions,