Search feed arbitrage
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Badass for mob members.
Regulars, as us, will have their Gads accs banned for using this method.
Regulars, as us, will have their Gads accs banned for using this method.
M4DM4X
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Haha that's what I thought as well
Those stories are inspiring but let's be honest these guys are from another planet making so much money without too much struggle
ibmjango
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We are not bound to use BigG to use directly, you can use other network to do same thing and can make more profit, people are still doing it but dont discuss here. i usually dont reply on this kind of threads but posting this reply as above reply can stop anyone who is thinking to go for it and stop even before trying it. so i confirm it was working and still works but need experience and right tools to manage all stuff.
Just for reference check this and see how big is market to play with and this is just publicly available networks, when you get in game, you will get access to private inventory too. Hope it help somehow.
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M4DM4X
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Thanks mate, indeed you can replicate the same strategy with other networks.
The guy I quoted the tweet from is also detailing similar method with other networks
ibmjango
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Bro i am sharing information with my own experience, as i am doing it since years myself. hope it help someone new guy who is just planning to do it. and in last i do want to mention , i am not the only guy who is doing it, in this forum there are hundreds of other people who are using exact same method in their own twist but most of time we dont have time to come back here and share here, In my experience people comeback to check other things and while searching they found topic which interest them so they post here and there. like i did today..lol.
ibmjango
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really like to connect like minded people, feel free to add me on skpe my skpe id is : ibmjango or send your through pm.
ibmjango
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friend he is talking about this link
and if you go to twitter you wont find any step by step instructions or details as people are just discussing and pointing things. its simple method which is explained several time on bhw itself.
bigmansyndrome
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Headline is clickbait. Google isn’t paying them 600m to buy ads, they just generate money by pocketing the difference. They get their clicks from everywhere and they are not the only ones. Know a few others who do this and make massive amounts of money.
The Great Combinator
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They are happy to outsource it to a few trusted partners.
Here is key phrase from Twitter from the person that posted this. This will only work when you're a trusted partner to Google. Everything these arbitrage companies do is because Google allows them. I bet you if someone from BHW tried to enter the space they would be blocked. Big Tech would support their customer that's spending millions while ignore small fish like all of us.
Here is key phrase from Twitter from the person that posted this. This will only work when you're a trusted partner to Google. Everything these arbitrage companies do is because Google allows them. I bet you if someone from BHW tried to enter the space they would be blocked. Big Tech would support their customer that's spending millions while ignore small fish like all of us.
bigmansyndrome
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plenty of feed suppliers out there... the hard part is picking the right one
nues0undz
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plenty of feed suppliers out there... the hard part is picking the right one
Can u name a few?
Pureananda
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Which one is in your choice list?plenty of feed suppliers out there... the hard part is picking the right one
bigmansyndrome
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I know the article posted by ibmdjango is interesting to read and makes you wonder how to get some of those dollars into your pocket, but it's not that simple and I actually urge you to forget about the tactics mentioned in the article, simply because it is not accessible to us. It is a strategic partnership between Google and a handful of companies in the world.
But if you want to get started with search arbitrage, here is some info that might help you.
In order to start with search arbitrage, you will need to have a healthy budget. Not only because you will need to spend a certain amount of money per day, but also because of the payment terms most of these providers have. It can take up to 45 days before you see your money. Keep that in mind.
So you will be required to buy media from sources that have been approved by the search engines. Depending on the strategy that you pick this means that you will be buying from FB, GDN, Taboola, or Google. So if you were planning to buy cheap clicks from a push network? Forget about it. It might work for a couple of days but then it is very likely that they will notify you that your traffic quality score is not good and tell you that it needs to improve within a couple of days or you are out. You will need to get better quality clicks, from people who actually do have some kind of interest in the product. Hence the approved sources like Google, FB and, Taboola.
The game is to get users to click on your search ads in order to pocket the difference but remember it's a 2 click process and even 3 for Google.
For example, your FB ad (1st click), your SERP (2nd click) will need to match the keyword in the FB ad. This means you can't advertise for one product and show an ad for a more expensive product. e.g. regular savings account in the ad and an investment/trading platform ad on your SERP.
What IAC is doing is buying all the long-tail keywords for pennies and drive them to a SERP with the expensive relevant keyword. But the MOST important difference here is that they buy from Bing/Yahoo where there is less competition for certain keywords. So they buy low and show expensive ads from Google. they have far more advertisers and therefore charge higher CPC rates. They make their money like this. Normal people like you and I need to do it the other way around. Buy search ads from Google and sell ads from Yahoo or Bing which are often cheaper clicks. It's a difficult strategy and therefore the majority of the arbitrage players opt for the display and native route.
With native and display you will make money some days and others you don't. Also, keep in mind that (especially the larger feed providers) they want you to generate a minimum daily revenue otherwise you are simply not worth their time. Think $300-500 per day at the beginning and the commitment to scale quickly. It is also good to know that everything (can't stress this enough) gets measured. So if you are thinking of targeting high CPC verticals like finance you will risk getting kicked out very fast if the quality of your searches is not up to par. When the quality is good? Happy days! But they will keep a very close look at all your activity when you target specific verticals like health, finance, and education.
In terms of some companies that could possibly help you; Indian advertising giant media.net (both yahoo and google feed - but just to be clear not the highly lucrative one that IAC has ), the Israelis from codefuel (only yahoo in tier1 countries, long approval process), US-based System1 (yep the ones mentioned in the Twitter article, hard to get approved and long process), and UK based directsearchfeed.com (flexible, but more focussed on typed-in traffic) are some guys who might be able to help you.
All these companies offer solutions for typed-in traffic monetization as well (e.g.chrome extensions, website). Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
But if you want to get started with search arbitrage, here is some info that might help you.
In order to start with search arbitrage, you will need to have a healthy budget. Not only because you will need to spend a certain amount of money per day, but also because of the payment terms most of these providers have. It can take up to 45 days before you see your money. Keep that in mind.
So you will be required to buy media from sources that have been approved by the search engines. Depending on the strategy that you pick this means that you will be buying from FB, GDN, Taboola, or Google. So if you were planning to buy cheap clicks from a push network? Forget about it. It might work for a couple of days but then it is very likely that they will notify you that your traffic quality score is not good and tell you that it needs to improve within a couple of days or you are out. You will need to get better quality clicks, from people who actually do have some kind of interest in the product. Hence the approved sources like Google, FB and, Taboola.
The game is to get users to click on your search ads in order to pocket the difference but remember it's a 2 click process and even 3 for Google.
For example, your FB ad (1st click), your SERP (2nd click) will need to match the keyword in the FB ad. This means you can't advertise for one product and show an ad for a more expensive product. e.g. regular savings account in the ad and an investment/trading platform ad on your SERP.
What IAC is doing is buying all the long-tail keywords for pennies and drive them to a SERP with the expensive relevant keyword. But the MOST important difference here is that they buy from Bing/Yahoo where there is less competition for certain keywords. So they buy low and show expensive ads from Google. they have far more advertisers and therefore charge higher CPC rates. They make their money like this. Normal people like you and I need to do it the other way around. Buy search ads from Google and sell ads from Yahoo or Bing which are often cheaper clicks. It's a difficult strategy and therefore the majority of the arbitrage players opt for the display and native route.
With native and display you will make money some days and others you don't. Also, keep in mind that (especially the larger feed providers) they want you to generate a minimum daily revenue otherwise you are simply not worth their time. Think $300-500 per day at the beginning and the commitment to scale quickly. It is also good to know that everything (can't stress this enough) gets measured. So if you are thinking of targeting high CPC verticals like finance you will risk getting kicked out very fast if the quality of your searches is not up to par. When the quality is good? Happy days! But they will keep a very close look at all your activity when you target specific verticals like health, finance, and education.
In terms of some companies that could possibly help you; Indian advertising giant media.net (both yahoo and google feed - but just to be clear not the highly lucrative one that IAC has
), the Israelis from codefuel (only yahoo in tier1 countries, long approval process), US-based System1 (yep the ones mentioned in the Twitter article, hard to get approved and long process), and UK based directsearchfeed.com (flexible, but more focussed on typed-in traffic) are some guys who might be able to help you.All these companies offer solutions for typed-in traffic monetization as well (e.g.chrome extensions, website). Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
ibmjango
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Most of information is true here. So anyone thinking to jump in traffic arbitrage should consider these all things before start anything in traffic arbitrage. People don't plan enough and jump in and after sometime lost their money and comeback and says this thing doesn't work.I know the article posted by ibmdjango is interesting to read and makes you wonder how to get some of those dollars into your pocket, but it's not that simple and I actually urge you to forget about the tactics mentioned in the article, simply because it is not accessible to us. It is a strategic partnership between Google and a handful of companies in the world.
But if you want to get started with search arbitrage, here is some info that might help you.
In order to start with search arbitrage, you will need to have a healthy budget. Not only because you will need to spend a certain amount of money per day, but also because of the payment terms most of these providers have. It can take up to 45 days before you see your money. Keep that in mind.
So you will be required to buy media from sources that have been approved by the search engines. Depending on the strategy that you pick this means that you will be buying from FB, GDN, Taboola, or Google. So if you were planning to buy cheap clicks from a push network? Forget about it. It might work for a couple of days but then it is very likely that they will notify you that your traffic quality score is not good and tell you that it needs to improve within a couple of days or you are out. You will need to get better quality clicks, from people who actually do have some kind of interest in the product. Hence the approved sources like Google, FB and, Taboola.
The game is to get users to click on your search ads in order to pocket the difference but remember it's a 2 click process and even 3 for Google.
For example, your FB ad (1st click), your SERP (2nd click) will need to match the keyword in the FB ad. This means you can't advertise for one product and show an ad for a more expensive product. e.g. regular savings account in the ad and an investment/trading platform ad on your SERP.
What IAC is doing is buying all the long-tail keywords for pennies and drive them to a SERP with the expensive relevant keyword. But the MOST important difference here is that they buy from Bing/Yahoo where there is less competition for certain keywords. So they buy low and show expensive ads from Google. they have far more advertisers and therefore charge higher CPC rates. They make their money like this. Normal people like you and I need to do it the other way around. Buy search ads from Google and sell ads from Yahoo or Bing which are often cheaper clicks. It's a difficult strategy and therefore the majority of the arbitrage players opt for the display and native route.
With native and display you will make money some days and others you don't. Also, keep in mind that (especially the larger feed providers) they want you to generate a minimum daily revenue otherwise you are simply not worth their time. Think $300-500 per day at the beginning and the commitment to scale quickly. It is also good to know that everything (can't stress this enough) gets measured. So if you are thinking of targeting high CPC verticals like finance you will risk getting kicked out very fast if the quality of your searches is not up to par. When the quality is good? Happy days! But they will keep a very close look at all your activity when you target specific verticals like health, finance, and education.
In terms of some companies that could possibly help you; Indian advertising giant media.net (both yahoo and google feed - but just to be clear not the highly lucrative one that IAC has
All these companies offer solutions for typed-in traffic monetization as well (e.g.chrome extensions, website). Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
First thing is , it doest matter what you are doing online, the core value is, you know your numbers.
Make sure you always keep an eye on 3 most important metrics ...
Cost, conversions and profit
So if you control them then doesn't matter what u do, you will see success.
So first thing first
Try small, if see success gradually scale up big time, initially when you are streamline any system go slow , it's not about burning money, just figure out how system is working, once you know your stuff, play big time.
But being said that I do want to say it's my experience, your could be different so make your experience and decision carefully.
Money is everywhere only if you stick to a method and focus enough to make that thing profitable for you.
webkey360
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Hi Brest: I just joined the forum and I am specifically looking to get into the search feed on native gig. I currently run content arbitrage but am new to it but I like the idea of the search feed stuff. I could use some solid advice on where to get accepted easier and good providers and all-around advice. If you could help me out that would be awesome.
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