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After more than 10 years in the movie streaming business, I decided to take a break and start with something different, google is very unpredictable these days and I'm tired of ranking new sites each month so after looking few options where can I move on, i decided to start with betting.
I was born in poor family and most of my friends were poor so while everyone tried to make money with betting i invested everything in streaming sites and by now made a lot of money. With that money come new friendships with rich kids and I realize that even they like to gamble a lot but mostly for fun but i don't give some big notice on that gambling until one day when i have lunch with a very rich friend i saw that he bet online on some NBA game 2.000$. I asked him why did he do that that is a lot of money, and he just said don't worry bro im doing this every day sometimes i win sometimes i lose, mostly losing but the point is that I have more fun while watching the game, and then i said what if i build the site will you play there, so when you win you will get cash in your hands and don't need to pay taxes on that money, he said sure that i will play and i will tell to all of my friends that play even bigger money than me.
So i started working on site, first i was searching for an already made site that i can buy and just start after few days, but everyone that i contact said price like 20-30k and 5-10% on money that i will make, so i decided to create such a site on my own. I was searching for developers that can do this, here on forum and some other places, but no one had experience with betting and they just losing my time and money. After a lot of searching for developers, i found some people that already built few sites very similar to bet365 and we started working.
We build the site for around 3 months, costing me a lot of money and worst part was to found the API for games and odds. We found a lot and most of them where to slow for live betting and odds where sometimes too low sometimes to high, all in all i was starting to loose my mind until one day we found the right API, trial version was 400$ for 15 days and after testing everything worked perffect so we decided that was the right time to start.

While my friend asked me each day when that site will be ready, i decided to start with small players so i don't get ripped off in the first few days.
So i told to my poor friends i will give you 100$ bonus to play on this site not even telling them that is mine so they tested it for free. Only 1 of 8 players took of 300$ all others just went to 0 and asked me how can they deposit money to play again. Now i was confident that i will make a lot of money with rich players so i told my friend site is ready and he can tell to his friends, i give him ref link so he can get 5% on each money that his ref's loose on the site.

In about 10 days i have 15 small players and 4 big players and my revenue was around 8.000$, i told my self many times how can i be that stupid and dont start with this earlier, and then few winning tickets for around 14.000$ but no one ask for withdraw, few hours again few winning tickets for around 11.000$ and i started feeling terrible, i had money to pay them but if they continue with this winning tickets im done. I call my friend and tell him the situation and give him a proposal so i can pay his friends for this winning tickets and after that to share 50-50 all winning and loosing. And he just started laughing and told me did someone click withdraw button, i said not for now but if this continue and they click on that button im fcked up, and then lough again, he said you moron they will loose all that money that they win and ask for deposit in 10-15 hours, i know what they brain thinking they will chase at least 50k before asking for withdrawal, and when i heard that 50k i was feeling just more fcked up, he just close the call and i started praying, turned off the internet and just driving with my car more than 3 hours without going anywhere, and then call from one of the player that has more than 10k on his balance telling me hey bro can you add another 2k on my balance i lost everything, i will pay you tomorrow, i said sure no prob give me a sec and i opened my admin panel go trough player list and before i click to add money on his acc, i started checking other player balances and in that moment only happiness around me all players with 0 balance or with some 500-100$ and then i know it this is most profitable business EVER..

Now after few months im playing with their money, if there is some huge withdraw i pay them with their own money, my expenses for site are around 1k dollars for API, hosting and marketing, and im making at least 5x more money than with movie streaming.
Right now site is only for private players ( people that have invitation from people that already play) and it's not showing anything on google or some other engines. Deposits and Withdrawals are only paid in cash, i have agents that collect money and pay their players, so i can't say that im not working at all right now.

Because i already have a platform my plan for the future is to rent or sell copies of this site cheaper than other vendors, and if everything goes well one day to register license and operate online :)

Right now i also implement crypto transfers and upgrade the site each day with many new futures until start working fully automatic, before few days we also added slot games and some other casino games i need to pay 15% from my revenue each month but there is still a lot of profit.

If someone need more info feel free to ask me anything i will do my best to explain everything that i learned by now.
 
I work in the gambling industry myself. Pretty risky for you to go into the betting industry.
I could say a bunch of different things, but what seems to be the most important here based on your experience and knowledge so far will be:
When your site starts growing, you have to be very aware of matchbetting abusers.
You were maybe worried about the 50k, but if a matchbetting abuser finds a small flaw in your odds(which happens all the time in this industry, even when using the best possible odds providers), they can easily clean you for a few hundred k.

Would be fun to see your site though. Can you drop link in PM?
 
Gambling is horrible. I lost thousands but f&^ck it. Now I am going to be the one with the high odds.
 
I'm waiting for this forum to turn into "slot machine experts".
 
"you need money to make money''
how much did you spend on this project?
 
Could I get in touch with you? Idk PM me ur discord

I dont have use dicord will send you skype in pm.

I work in the gambling industry myself. Pretty risky for you to go into the betting industry.
I could say a bunch of different things, but what seems to be the most important here based on your experience and knowledge so far will be:
When your site starts growing, you have to be very aware of matchbetting abusers.
You were maybe worried about the 50k, but if a matchbetting abuser finds a small flaw in your odds(which happens all the time in this industry, even when using the best possible odds providers), they can easily clean you for a few hundred k.

Would be fun to see your site though. Can you drop link in PM?

Yes you are right, that's why im working only for local players right now, if someone bet on high amount I will have person that will accept or not, big money on some 3rd leagues or something like that will be rejected. But I will accept high amounts on slots and poker etc. For security reasons I can't show my site, and the homepage is only ( login page ) so there's nothing to be shown in public only trusted people can login.

Gambling is horrible. I lost thousands but f&^ck it. Now I am going to be the one with the high odds.

I never bet a single $ in my life so it's nice to be on the other side :)

I'm waiting for this forum to turn into "slot machine experts".

Haha after i saw code that run online "slot machines" i can bet on my life that no one can beat them.

"you need money to make money''
how much did you spend on this project?

Right now something around 23k. but still investing in many things because i can see the profit is 100% guarantee.
 
Humm, Chipicao??? Tuga???
Need to talk with u about sites, movies, ads, gambling, pm me pls
 
First of all good luck with the development of your website. I can tell you right away that you have a lot ( i mean A LOT) of work ahead with coding and bringing the features needed to run a smooth gambling website.
If you and your team will have the right skills to bring to the players a great user experience money will rain

Yes indeed it a very good market and hope you can continue with your journey and keep improving ☺️

I also have a website like the one you are trying to build, it is true when you said that other asked like 20K of price and than charge 5-10 percent of GGR ( but right now you have already invested 23 K and maybe in the next year your investment will 10x if you are willing to push your betting platform in the next level)
Example: right now you are supporting 100 players but what about the need for 50K players online and giving them the opportunity to play:
-football live betting
-tenis
-basketball
-casino lets say 600 slots from the most wanted providers
-the need of jackpots
-virtual games (dogs, horses, keno etc)

You are just a few bits from the big picture and as you grow you will understand as a developer that is needed to be sold to others to work it, so you can pursue the developer path ( money will flow in with 20 GGR, so you can continue to develop)
Clarification when you put your eggs on the service side ( you sell it as a service ) your exposure to risk is Zero , but if you go on with operating the website and accepting bets you put a risk on your side and a lot of emotions will crack your days especially in mid season when the bet trafic will climb.

my advice is keep working but put the casino to work ☺️☺️☺️

Now if anyone is interested for a cooperation lets PM
No upfront prices just % On GGR
 
After more than 10 years in the movie streaming business, I decided to take a break and start with something different, google is very unpredictable these days and I'm tired of ranking new sites each month so after looking few options where can I move on, i decided to start with betting.
I was born in poor family and most of my friends were poor so while everyone tried to make money with betting i invested everything in streaming sites and by now made a lot of money. With that money come new friendships with rich kids and I realize that even they like to gamble a lot but mostly for fun but i don't give some big notice on that gambling until one day when i have lunch with a very rich friend i saw that he bet online on some NBA game 2.000$. I asked him why did he do that that is a lot of money, and he just said don't worry bro im doing this every day sometimes i win sometimes i lose, mostly losing but the point is that I have more fun while watching the game, and then i said what if i build the site will you play there, so when you win you will get cash in your hands and don't need to pay taxes on that money, he said sure that i will play and i will tell to all of my friends that play even bigger money than me.
So i started working on site, first i was searching for an already made site that i can buy and just start after few days, but everyone that i contact said price like 20-30k and 5-10% on money that i will make, so i decided to create such a site on my own. I was searching for developers that can do this, here on forum and some other places, but no one had experience with betting and they just losing my time and money. After a lot of searching for developers, i found some people that already built few sites very similar to bet365 and we started working.
We build the site for around 3 months, costing me a lot of money and worst part was to found the API for games and odds. We found a lot and most of them where to slow for live betting and odds where sometimes too low sometimes to high, all in all i was starting to loose my mind until one day we found the right API, trial version was 400$ for 15 days and after testing everything worked perffect so we decided that was the right time to start.

While my friend asked me each day when that site will be ready, i decided to start with small players so i don't get ripped off in the first few days.
So i told to my poor friends i will give you 100$ bonus to play on this site not even telling them that is mine so they tested it for free. Only 1 of 8 players took of 300$ all others just went to 0 and asked me how can they deposit money to play again. Now i was confident that i will make a lot of money with rich players so i told my friend site is ready and he can tell to his friends, i give him ref link so he can get 5% on each money that his ref's loose on the site.

In about 10 days i have 15 small players and 4 big players and my revenue was around 8.000$, i told my self many times how can i be that stupid and dont start with this earlier, and then few winning tickets for around 14.000$ but no one ask for withdraw, few hours again few winning tickets for around 11.000$ and i started feeling terrible, i had money to pay them but if they continue with this winning tickets im done. I call my friend and tell him the situation and give him a proposal so i can pay his friends for this winning tickets and after that to share 50-50 all winning and loosing. And he just started laughing and told me did someone click withdraw button, i said not for now but if this continue and they click on that button im fcked up, and then lough again, he said you moron they will loose all that money that they win and ask for deposit in 10-15 hours, i know what they brain thinking they will chase at least 50k before asking for withdrawal, and when i heard that 50k i was feeling just more fcked up, he just close the call and i started praying, turned off the internet and just driving with my car more than 3 hours without going anywhere, and then call from one of the player that has more than 10k on his balance telling me hey bro can you add another 2k on my balance i lost everything, i will pay you tomorrow, i said sure no prob give me a sec and i opened my admin panel go trough player list and before i click to add money on his acc, i started checking other player balances and in that moment only happiness around me all players with 0 balance or with some 500-100$ and then i know it this is most profitable business EVER..

Now after few months im playing with their money, if there is some huge withdraw i pay them with their own money, my expenses for site are around 1k dollars for API, hosting and marketing, and im making at least 5x more money than with movie streaming.
Right now site is only for private players ( people that have invitation from people that already play) and it's not showing anything on google or some other engines. Deposits and Withdrawals are only paid in cash, i have agents that collect money and pay their players, so i can't say that im not working at all right now.

Because i already have a platform my plan for the future is to rent or sell copies of this site cheaper than other vendors, and if everything goes well one day to register license and operate online :)

Right now i also implement crypto transfers and upgrade the site each day with many new futures until start working fully automatic, before few days we also added slot games and some other casino games i need to pay 15% from my revenue each month but there is still a lot of profit.

If someone need more info feel free to ask me anything i will do my best to explain everything that i learned by now.
Keep up and good luck ☺️
 
First of all good luck with the development of your website. I can tell you right away that you have a lot ( i mean A LOT) of work ahead with coding and bringing the features needed to run a smooth gambling website.
If you and your team will have the right skills to bring to the players a great user experience money will rain

Yes indeed it a very good market and hope you can continue with your journey and keep improving ☺️

I also have a website like the one you are trying to build, it is true when you said that other asked like 20K of price and than charge 5-10 percent of GGR ( but right now you have already invested 23 K and maybe in the next year your investment will 10x if you are willing to push your betting platform in the next level)
Example: right now you are supporting 100 players but what about the need for 50K players online and giving them the opportunity to play:
-football live betting
-tenis
-basketball
-casino lets say 600 slots from the most wanted providers
-the need of jackpots
-virtual games (dogs, horses, keno etc)

You are just a few bits from the big picture and as you grow you will understand as a developer that is needed to be sold to others to work it, so you can pursue the developer path ( money will flow in with 20 GGR, so you can continue to develop)
Clarification when you put your eggs on the service side ( you sell it as a service ) your exposure to risk is Zero , but if you go on with operating the website and accepting bets you put a risk on your side and a lot of emotions will crack your days especially in mid season when the bet trafic will climb.

my advice is keep working but put the casino to work ☺️☺️☺️

Now if anyone is interested for a cooperation lets PM
No upfront prices just % On GGR

Any updates? I'm following...


I don't need 50k players, I'm looking only for VIP players by now I have around 30-35 people that spent an average of 500-1000$ a day, the site is almost complete with every features that i want, we only miss basketball and football players on live betting and site will be 100% done.
casino works excellently by now i pay only 7% and get around 350 games.
Last month's profit was around 60% from the money that are deposit on the site.
The best thing is that players are with big pockets and they share the site with their friends with big pockets, so each 5-10 days I get new fish in the bowl :D


Keep up and good luck ☺️

Thank you :)
 
yeah, those industry are crazy, basically because they're "legal" drugs. Dating is also crazy good. Bonne chance ;)
 
After more than 10 years in the movie streaming business, I decided to take a break and start with something different, google is very unpredictable these days and I'm tired of ranking new sites each month so after looking few options where can I move on, i decided to start with betting.
I was born in poor family and most of my friends were poor so while everyone tried to make money with betting i invested everything in streaming sites and by now made a lot of money. With that money come new friendships with rich kids and I realize that even they like to gamble a lot but mostly for fun but i don't give some big notice on that gambling until one day when i have lunch with a very rich friend i saw that he bet online on some NBA game 2.000$. I asked him why did he do that that is a lot of money, and he just said don't worry bro im doing this every day sometimes i win sometimes i lose, mostly losing but the point is that I have more fun while watching the game, and then i said what if i build the site will you play there, so when you win you will get cash in your hands and don't need to pay taxes on that money, he said sure that i will play and i will tell to all of my friends that play even bigger money than me.
So i started working on site, first i was searching for an already made site that i can buy and just start after few days, but everyone that i contact said price like 20-30k and 5-10% on money that i will make, so i decided to create such a site on my own. I was searching for developers that can do this, here on forum and some other places, but no one had experience with betting and they just losing my time and money. After a lot of searching for developers, i found some people that already built few sites very similar to bet365 and we started working.
We build the site for around 3 months, costing me a lot of money and worst part was to found the API for games and odds. We found a lot and most of them where to slow for live betting and odds where sometimes too low sometimes to high, all in all i was starting to loose my mind until one day we found the right API, trial version was 400$ for 15 days and after testing everything worked perffect so we decided that was the right time to start.

While my friend asked me each day when that site will be ready, i decided to start with small players so i don't get ripped off in the first few days.
So i told to my poor friends i will give you 100$ bonus to play on this site not even telling them that is mine so they tested it for free. Only 1 of 8 players took of 300$ all others just went to 0 and asked me how can they deposit money to play again. Now i was confident that i will make a lot of money with rich players so i told my friend site is ready and he can tell to his friends, i give him ref link so he can get 5% on each money that his ref's loose on the site.

In about 10 days i have 15 small players and 4 big players and my revenue was around 8.000$, i told my self many times how can i be that stupid and dont start with this earlier, and then few winning tickets for around 14.000$ but no one ask for withdraw, few hours again few winning tickets for around 11.000$ and i started feeling terrible, i had money to pay them but if they continue with this winning tickets im done. I call my friend and tell him the situation and give him a proposal so i can pay his friends for this winning tickets and after that to share 50-50 all winning and loosing. And he just started laughing and told me did someone click withdraw button, i said not for now but if this continue and they click on that button im fcked up, and then lough again, he said you moron they will loose all that money that they win and ask for deposit in 10-15 hours, i know what they brain thinking they will chase at least 50k before asking for withdrawal, and when i heard that 50k i was feeling just more fcked up, he just close the call and i started praying, turned off the internet and just driving with my car more than 3 hours without going anywhere, and then call from one of the player that has more than 10k on his balance telling me hey bro can you add another 2k on my balance i lost everything, i will pay you tomorrow, i said sure no prob give me a sec and i opened my admin panel go trough player list and before i click to add money on his acc, i started checking other player balances and in that moment only happiness around me all players with 0 balance or with some 500-100$ and then i know it this is most profitable business EVER..

Now after few months im playing with their money, if there is some huge withdraw i pay them with their own money, my expenses for site are around 1k dollars for API, hosting and marketing, and im making at least 5x more money than with movie streaming.
Right now site is only for private players ( people that have invitation from people that already play) and it's not showing anything on google or some other engines. Deposits and Withdrawals are only paid in cash, i have agents that collect money and pay their players, so i can't say that im not working at all right now.

Because i already have a platform my plan for the future is to rent or sell copies of this site cheaper than other vendors, and if everything goes well one day to register license and operate online :)

Right now i also implement crypto transfers and upgrade the site each day with many new futures until start working fully automatic, before few days we also added slot games and some other casino games i need to pay 15% from my revenue each month but there is still a lot of profit.

If someone need more info feel free to ask me anything i will do my best to explain everything that i learned by now.
nice, congrats, betting is fun when winning
 
After more than 10 years in the movie streaming business, I decided to take a break and start with something different, google is very unpredictable these days and I'm tired of ranking new sites each month so after looking few options where can I move on, i decided to start with betting.
I was born in poor family and most of my friends were poor so while everyone tried to make money with betting i invested everything in streaming sites and by now made a lot of money. With that money come new friendships with rich kids and I realize that even they like to gamble a lot but mostly for fun but i don't give some big notice on that gambling until one day when i have lunch with a very rich friend i saw that he bet online on some NBA game 2.000$. I asked him why did he do that that is a lot of money, and he just said don't worry bro im doing this every day sometimes i win sometimes i lose, mostly losing but the point is that I have more fun while watching the game, and then i said what if i build the site will you play there, so when you win you will get cash in your hands and don't need to pay taxes on that money, he said sure that i will play and i will tell to all of my friends that play even bigger money than me.
So i started working on site, first i was searching for an already made site that i can buy and just start after few days, but everyone that i contact said price like 20-30k and 5-10% on money that i will make, so i decided to create such a site on my own. I was searching for developers that can do this, here on forum and some other places, but no one had experience with betting and they just losing my time and money. After a lot of searching for developers, i found some people that already built few sites very similar to bet365 and we started working.
We build the site for around 3 months, costing me a lot of money and worst part was to found the API for games and odds. We found a lot and most of them where to slow for live betting and odds where sometimes too low sometimes to high, all in all i was starting to loose my mind until one day we found the right API, trial version was 400$ for 15 days and after testing everything worked perffect so we decided that was the right time to start.

While my friend asked me each day when that site will be ready, i decided to start with small players so i don't get ripped off in the first few days.
So i told to my poor friends i will give you 100$ bonus to play on this site not even telling them that is mine so they tested it for free. Only 1 of 8 players took of 300$ all others just went to 0 and asked me how can they deposit money to play again. Now i was confident that i will make a lot of money with rich players so i told my friend site is ready and he can tell to his friends, i give him ref link so he can get 5% on each money that his ref's loose on the site.

In about 10 days i have 15 small players and 4 big players and my revenue was around 8.000$, i told my self many times how can i be that stupid and dont start with this earlier, and then few winning tickets for around 14.000$ but no one ask for withdraw, few hours again few winning tickets for around 11.000$ and i started feeling terrible, i had money to pay them but if they continue with this winning tickets im done. I call my friend and tell him the situation and give him a proposal so i can pay his friends for this winning tickets and after that to share 50-50 all winning and loosing. And he just started laughing and told me did someone click withdraw button, i said not for now but if this continue and they click on that button im fcked up, and then lough again, he said you moron they will loose all that money that they win and ask for deposit in 10-15 hours, i know what they brain thinking they will chase at least 50k before asking for withdrawal, and when i heard that 50k i was feeling just more fcked up, he just close the call and i started praying, turned off the internet and just driving with my car more than 3 hours without going anywhere, and then call from one of the player that has more than 10k on his balance telling me hey bro can you add another 2k on my balance i lost everything, i will pay you tomorrow, i said sure no prob give me a sec and i opened my admin panel go trough player list and before i click to add money on his acc, i started checking other player balances and in that moment only happiness around me all players with 0 balance or with some 500-100$ and then i know it this is most profitable business EVER..

Now after few months im playing with their money, if there is some huge withdraw i pay them with their own money, my expenses for site are around 1k dollars for API, hosting and marketing, and im making at least 5x more money than with movie streaming.
Right now site is only for private players ( people that have invitation from people that already play) and it's not showing anything on google or some other engines. Deposits and Withdrawals are only paid in cash, i have agents that collect money and pay their players, so i can't say that im not working at all right now.

Because i already have a platform my plan for the future is to rent or sell copies of this site cheaper than other vendors, and if everything goes well one day to register license and operate online :)

Right now i also implement crypto transfers and upgrade the site each day with many new futures until start working fully automatic, before few days we also added slot games and some other casino games i need to pay 15% from my revenue each month but there is still a lot of profit.

If someone need more info feel free to ask me anything i will do my best to explain everything that i learned by now.
May i Know How Much did You spend on this Project?
 
how did you convince them to gamble in a site that is not available for the public?
did someone think it was a scam and how did you deal with that?
are similar sites common?
how did the idea came to you or where did you got the inspiration from?
where can I read about sites with similar business model?
 
Hey bro cool journey,i have just sent you a pm! We come from the same paths
 
I recently started building exactly the same thing, the client was willing to spent a ton of money and he wants this finished asap. When he first said that he was b365 clone to be built i said to myself what the hell is going on. How does he even moneytize from all of that. It does not make any sense. So yeah I took the project now its almost done, I've been through hell to build something very fancy (its replica to b365). To my mind it was not worth it (for the client side), for me it was worth it alot because i learned many things.
 
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