jake lionar
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i already did that, but yeah now time to learn something newIf you want machine learning and working with data I'd pick python
i already did that, but yeah now time to learn something newIf you want machine learning and working with data I'd pick python
yeah i agree, same goes for me i started with c then python now i will advance with javaYou really won't be a good programmer if you learn javascript first and you'll find it hard to unlearn all the bad habits
Go, i found that in some forums talking about it, but again im not looking to learn that for getting paid paid by some oneswitch to golang since it's way more powerful for cloud,backends and also creating bots and it's made by google and also it has the highest salary among all programming languages
yeah i agree, same goes for me i started with c then python now i will advance with java
Hey, i want to start learning a new programing language, the thing im so confused to choice wish one, what i want to end up with is being able to :
create web app front end and backend web developement
create mobile app
and desktop app
i already knew some basics of c c++ c# python php, but right now i want to advance or master one language that will allow me to do all the things listed above, i wanted to continue with python since i already knew the basics, but when searching online i found that the best option is JS, so im wondering wish one to pich and master it, any advice or help suggestion ? TY.
Thanks, i alreaddy got a good course for free, thanks to @TheVigilante,They cost around 15 bucks,
really?Thanks, i alreaddy got a good course for free, thanks to @TheVigilante,
site:drive.google.com java
Not programming it was abuot finding seo or something like that i used that to find some course and stuff !)really?
when did I share one on programming?
Thanks, i alreaddy got a good course for free, thanks to @TheVigilante,
site:drive.google.com java
Java !== JavaScript
if (desiredlang == Java)
link = https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/language/
else if (desiredlang == JavaScript)
link = https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/About_JavaScript
yeh i thought they are the same but it seems they 2 separate things...One thing though, i see you keep mentioning Java, but I think you want JavaScript.
I might be wrong, just checking.
Code:Java !== JavaScript if (desiredlang == Java) link = https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/language/ else if (desiredlang == JavaScript) link = https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/About_JavaScript
I actually started learning Python but move to JavaScript.Here's a response from a comp sci professor who teaches both javascript and python - https://blog.coursera.org/in-2019-should-you-learn-python-or-javascript-first/
He says it's fine to fiddle around with js as you learn python, as you do come across it a lot, but, his exact words are
You really won't be a good programmer if you learn javascript first and you'll find it hard to unlearn all the bad habits.
His last quote sums up exactly why js is a terrible first language. Python is ultra-powerful and one of Guido van Rossum's core goals was to move away from languages like Perl that have 50 ways of doing the 1 thing. He wanted something that would make thinking in code much easier. You really can't get a better language for your first one.
HUH?? What do you mean you won’t be a good programmer if you learn JS first? You truly have no idea what you’re talking about. It doesn’t matter which language you choose first, as long as you know how to program. Experienced javascript programmers can switch between languages in a matter of weeks. We are talking about high-level languages here, we’re not talking assembly. You can learn Javascript well and then switch to python in case that you need to. Just learn the conventions and libraries that you need for each languageHere's a response from a comp sci professor who teaches both javascript and python - https://blog.coursera.org/in-2019-should-you-learn-python-or-javascript-first/
He says it's fine to fiddle around with js as you learn python, as you do come across it a lot, but, his exact words are
You really won't be a good programmer if you learn javascript first and you'll find it hard to unlearn all the bad habits.
His last quote sums up exactly why js is a terrible first language. Python is ultra powerful and one of Guido van Rossum's core goals was to move away from languages like Perl that have 50 ways of doing the 1 thing. He wanted something that would make thinking in code much easier. You really can't get a better language for your first one.
I actually started learning Python but move to JavaScript.
I started working on a Saas company that also offers SEO consultation and the CEO of the company (who recently passed away) was a big advocate for Python.
Also, most of the practical usage would be for data analysis and task automation but, I got carried away by the comments of more experienced guys in this field.
@splishsplash Thanks a lot for stopping by and sharing your insights here!!
HUH?? What do you mean you won’t be a good programmer if you learn JS first? You truly have no idea what you’re talking about. It doesn’t matter which language you choose first, as long as you know how to program. Experienced javascript programmers can switch between languages in a matter of weeks. We are talking about high-level languages here, we’re not talking assembly. You can learn Javascript well and then switch to python in case that you need to. Just learn the conventions and libraries that you need for each language
Programming can be defined as the art of problem solving through code, AS LONG as you know how to solve problems through code, you’ll be a good programmer.For data science and task automation you'd absolutely want Python.
Unfortunately there's a LOT of bad advice out there and it can be very hard to make a decision. I've been a dev since the 90's btw, so I was writing code while a lot of guys here were still learning to crawl.
Ultimately you have to make your own decision, but the thing you need to be careful of in this industry is fanaticism. Ever since the early days it's been rampant. emacs vs vi, linux vs freebsd, freebsd vs openbsd etc. You'll find a lot of die-hard javascript fanatics that will convince you that it's the best thing since sliced bread, but I can tell you that out of all the main stream languages Python is one of the cleanest languages in terms of the actual syntax and how to write code. You can read any code in Python and you'll understand it. Other languages have a lot of quirks and special ways of doing things which that you need to learn the style of the programmer rather than the fundamental style of the language.
Python is strongly-typed. Javascript is weakly typed.
There's no procedural programming in javascript. It's just a big mix of everything. You aren't going to learn about interfaces, polymorphism or multiple inheritance. These things in javascript are more like "hacks". You use prototypes to achieve polymoprhism. I don't think you can implement interfaces, and javascript doesn't support multiple inheritance. There's a hacky way to do it with ES6, but again, do you really want to be learning "hacky ways", or learning the fundamentals in a clean way?
Python is imperative, procedural, OO and functional.
Python was designed to be what it is. Javascript is just a big evolution of addons, hacks and glues to do things. It's very powerful, but this is not the type of language you want to learn to be a software engineer in. It's a power tool for getting stuff done when you're already a strong developer.
Python has way more libs than js.
Most people and articles out there are just full of crap, then you have the die-hards in a language that will convince you it's the most amazing thing ever, but they're lacking the broader perspective to compare because they're so entrenched in their own daily programming practices and way of solving things.
You see this below. This is an example. His response is just "You truly have no idea what you're talking about". Notice how he added "truly" to give it more emphasis. The notion that a js programmer can "switch between languages" in a matter of weeks is beyond ridiculous. See if this guy really understands mutable vs immutable data. I doubt he's even heard of these terms let alone the ability to actually understand the difference.