Best Method When Using YouTube Panels?

[MrRaging]

I have a small channel where I focus on uploading gameplay of new releases and other games that aren't oversaturated on youtube already. From time to time I'll also post fix/workaround tutorial videos for common problems with popular programs that everyone is looking for fixes for but no one is solving. They're doing OK but of course I'd like them to do better. Most of these videos will rank high up in the search results for 12-24 hours before being pushed down and losing traction.

I'm leaning towards using a YT panel to give my videos a 'boost' to get them on the recommended list and higher on the youtube search results and hopefully hold them there for longer then a day. I'm seeing that most panels offer so many varieties in 'views' services, such as high retention, from ads, real active, country specific and so on.. I understand what most of them are supposed to do but I don't understand which is best for getting my videos noticed.

Lets say for example I've just uploaded a gameplay video, currently there are only 15 other videos of the game and each video has anywhere from 10-300 views on it.

- Would I be better off buying 400 high retention views, or would other view types be better?
- Would mixing them all together give better results (eg: 200 retention, 100 real active and 100 country specific)?
- Do likes and comments also affect these results? Should I buy like ~15 likes and a few comments as well or something?
- Will these panels affect being monetized down the track or will they actually help me get there faster?

Is any of this even worth while doing?

If anyone has had decent success with using YT panels to gain actual real engagement I'd love to know how you went about doing so.

Cheers!

 

[TastyTeo]

that's what we all have been searching for if someone can do this for you it would cost much

 

[jasondenzer]

The only types of views that would really work are either High retention or from CTR impressions. The rest of those views have too low of a retention to bother.

 

[RoyalCobra777]

This worked like 5 years ago. If you want to grow a whitehat niche, stay away from panels (at least from most of them).

 

[MrRaging]

This worked like 5 years ago. If you want to grow a whitehat niche, stay away from panels (at least from most of them).

Thanks for replying. So basically what you're saying is those panels just make your videos look like they're 'popular', they don't actually do anything in terms of helping them be 'popular', like getting them on youtube search, recommended etc..?

Would buying these high retention views actually help channels get monetized or can youtube tell they are fake views?

 

[RoyalCobra777]

Thanks for replying. So basically what you're saying is those panels just make your videos look like they're 'popular', they don't actually do anything in terms of helping them be 'popular', like getting them on youtube search, recommended etc..?

Would buying these high retention views actually help channels get monetized or can youtube tell they are fake views?

I got monetized by buying watch time in April last year. In my opinion, this is the only benefit of using SMM Panels for your youtube. I tested more than a dozen of providers from BHW and they made little to no difference.

 

[MrRaging]

I got monetized by buying watch time in April last year. In my opinion, this is the only benefit of using SMM Panels for your youtube. I tested more than a dozen of providers from BHW and they made little to no difference.

Thanks mate, appreciate the info! I guess they do seem way too good to be true lol

 

[hriups]

Panels don't work these days, people have been discussing how to bot with private methods on the forum recently

 

[Sinnerbh]

I got monetized by buying watch time in April last year. In my opinion, this is the only benefit of using SMM Panels for your youtube. I tested more than a dozen of providers from BHW and they made little to no difference.

How are you doing with that channel since April, after 1 year?

 

[jasondenzer]

Panels don't work these days, people have been discussing how to bot with private methods on the forum recently

Which thread?

 

[RoyalCobra777]

How are you doing with that channel since April, after 1 year?

Still monetized. I was demonetized once but reapplied and everything works fine.

 

[Sinnerbh]

Still monetized. I was demonetized once but reapplied and everything works fine.

i mean you're earning good?

 

[RoyalCobra777]

i mean you're earning good?

Neah, not even close.

 

[Ethan_Schwarz]

I wouldnt do it.. It seems attractive but it hurts more than it helps.

 

[BimTop]

Majority of YouTubers still use panels to boost their views. If they were not using them or see them as making little or no difference, you would not see all these panels anymore. They are in business because people get results with them. Of course, just buying panel views does not automatically mean your video will do well. There are many other factors involved. if you don't get those factors right, buying views would look like a waste of money as some commenters here are saying.

Do what you feel is right for you, but I will advise you mix things with organic set up while ensuring great CTR and retention.

 

[battlepanty]

I got monetized by buying watch time in April last year. In my opinion, this is the only benefit of using SMM Panels for your youtube. I tested more than a dozen of providers from BHW and they made little to no difference.

Hey can you PM which smm panel are you using? I am interested doing this as well

 

[MrRaging]

I wouldnt do it.. It seems attractive but it hurts more than it helps.

Can you elaborate on how it hurts exactly?

 

[azteeg]

Majority of YouTubers still use panels to boost their views. If they were not using them or see them as making little or no difference, you would not see all these panels anymore. They are in business because people get results with them. Of course, just buying panel views does not automatically mean your video will do well. There are many other factors involved. if you don't get those factors right, buying views would look like a waste of money as some commenters here are saying.

Do what you feel is right for you, but I will advise you mix things with organic set up while ensuring great CTR and retention.

And also, it all depends on the creator... if your video is actually interesting and enjoyable with the viewers. As the OG poster have said, he's video stays at least 12 - 24hrs in the search then it will all goes down eventually. So maybe, its not interesting.
Also, try using the magic of thumbnails and clickbait titles.
Panels just help your video with views, numbers, etc... no body will watch your video with 5 views or something.

 

[Gold Hat]

CTR and watchtime dont garentree anything anymore, YT algo has become alot smarter and can pickup anything sketchy

I have experimented even with microworkers, who would search for a keyword and click the video and watch it all and like and comment.

I have a video on 20% CTR and well over 50% watchtime, YT isnt willing to promote it or give it anymore impressions than any other new video

So it just shows you if microworkers dont do jack, imagine how crappy SMM panel views are.

If you read my thread i did a while back this is because YT seems to tag every user now on what niche they belong to and if there is a viewer who watches 1000 of videos of different niches - hes practicly useless.

So if you want to push a tech video out, only way possible is to get tech taged users to watch it and engage with it, and its impossible for you to find out what the YT algo has taged these people and users as, your only best bet is to make great videos and the algo with give you 10/20 impressions to push it to these people it deems right based on the tags you provide, those 20 impressions basically be the judge for youtube if they want to push the video or not.
So there no more chance you have where you can try and manipulate this algo when its 100 times smarter than you are, even if you get 100 people to search the keyword and watch it all, YT will see those viewers as being useless for that videos niche, you have to learn to place the right tags which correlate to the video and not just fill in junk tags for the sake of it, because based on those tags YT will select the best 10/20 individuals for that niche and will measure if they click it and how much they watch, theres no way around this other than making great great videos.

 

[Russ Thomas]

CTR and watchtime dont garentree anything anymore, YT algo has become alot smarter and can pickup anything sketchy

I have experimented even with microworkers, who would search for a keyword and click the video and watch it all and like and comment.

I have a video on 20% CTR and well over 50% watchtime, YT isnt willing to promote it or give it anymore impressions than any other new video

So it just shows you if microworkers dont do jack, imagine how crappy SMM panel views are.

If you read my thread i did a while back this is because YT seems to tag every user now on what niche they belong to and if there is a viewer who watches 1000 of videos of different niches - hes practicly useless.

So if you want to push a tech video out, only way possible is to get tech taged users to watch it and engage with it, and its impossible for you to find out what the YT algo has taged these people and users as, your only best bet is to make great videos and the algo with give you 10/20 impressions to push it to these people it deems right based on the tags you provide, those 20 impressions basically be the judge for youtube if they want to push the video or not.
So there no more chance you have where you can try and manipulate this algo when its 100 times smarter than you are, even if you get 100 people to search the keyword and watch it all, YT will see those viewers as being useless for that videos niche, you have to learn to place the right tags which correlate to the video and not just fill in junk tags for the sake of it, because based on those tags YT will select the best 10/20 individuals for that niche and will measure if they click it and how much they watch, theres no way around this other than making great great videos.

you freaking nailed it. the accounts must be in the same niche as your channel/video, so youtube has an idea where to suggest it to next.