How reliable is OrganicPanel.Net?

[anthony1999]

There's literally a thread on BHW Marketplace for this. How good are they for ranking videos? They claim that they will send organic views and promote your video to various places. However, it's using external traffic sources so idk if that even helps.

 

[jasondenzer]

Okay so it has been 3 days since I got my free review copy. I tested this on an old-ish video of mine that got around 15k organic views. I was looking up the views/day and impressions/day report ever since I tried this package. Unfortunately, I only saw a marginal increase in viewership and impressions. Granted that this video is old and the service is not guaranteed, I was able to receive a report for which links were shared. So overall, this service did deliver as is but it may not be suited for my needs. I may buy a package again for newer videos but I wanted to test an older video just as an easier benchmark.

Though I may need to wait another week to see results so I might keep you posted for this.

They sent me a $5 review copy a while ago. This was before they offered 1k organic views. I gotta say it's likely they won't help rank a video better unless they come from CTR sources or have good retention. You can tell if a video is ranked better by looking at the average impressions per day before and after order.

 

[Omar iop]

What is truly the best way to rank a video and receive Monataztion m

 

[speedyallan77]

There's literally a thread on BHW Marketplace for this. How good are they for ranking videos? They claim that they will send organic views and promote your video to various places. However, it's using external traffic sources so idk if that even helps.

external views dont matter,it can still rank with even zero impressions/

external views i use myself from bots force yt algo to generate impressions and then i get suggested views.

however i checked this site, the package seems good, can u test and update me via pm if the result is good.
dont expect immediate results wait sometime to get ranked

 

[jasondenzer]

external views dont matter,it can still rank with even zero impressions/

external views i use myself from bots force yt algo to generate impressions and then i get suggested views.

however i checked this site, the package seems good, can u test and update me via pm if the result is good.
dont expect immediate results wait sometime to get ranked

Why would external views be helpful for the algorithm especially if botted? My guess would be those views watch almost the entire duration of the video correct?

I'll test and let you know via PM whether it's good or not. Should I test for new or older video?

 

[SupremeSauce]

Im going to try this too. Surely it cant do any harm? I don't want to buy views in case a 'mark' was put on my channel. But I can't imagine this would hurt.

 

[speedyallan77]

Why would external views be helpful for the algorithm especially if botted? My guess would be those views watch almost the entire duration of the video correct?

I'll test and let you know via PM whether it's good or not. Should I test for new or older video?

it just works.
they don't watch entire duration but high retention.

sadly people think it only works by ctr and impressions.
simply not true.
i know plenty of botters using external views then yt pushes them after that they generate ctr and impressions naturally if their content is good

 

[jasondenzer]

it just works.
they don't watch entire duration but high retention.

sadly people think it only works by ctr and impressions.
simply not true.
i know plenty of botters using external views then yt pushes them after that they generate ctr and impressions naturally if their content is good

How high retention does it have to be? My guess would be anything 40%+ is doable right? I know if it's like 100% retention, it will help the algorithm.

 

[speedyallan77]

How high retention does it have to be? My guess would be anything 40%+ is doable right? I know if it's like 100% retention, it will help the algorithm.

it's random retention between 50 to 90

 

[SupremeSauce]

it's random retention between 50 to 90

Are SMM panels good for these external views for high retention? Also, can these harm your youtube channel?

 

[speedyallan77]

Are SMM panels good for these external views for high retention? Also, can these harm your youtube channel?

idk test.
coz I have my own bots and smm which works for me.
private methods

 

[SupremeSauce]

idk test.
coz I have my own bots and smm which works for me.
private methods

You dont have to answer, but how many channels do you have and how much do you make from them? Just curious is all as you seem pretty knowledgable and active here.

 

[speedyallan77]

You dont have to answer, but how many channels do you have and how much do you make from them? Just curious is all as you seem pretty knowledgable and active here.

i run a really lot of Channels.
most of them are automated spam channels. i dont touch them


just interact once in a while. pay some people to get some work done and farm some easy money with botted videos and streams

 

[anthony1999]

idk test.
coz I have my own bots and smm which works for me.
private methods

Why don't you open up a marketplace thread and sell us ranking services that actually work? You don't have to reveal your method. We could just PM YT link and you'll give us the ranking.

 

[speedyallan77]

Why don't you open up a marketplace thread and sell us ranking services that actually work? You don't have to reveal your method. We could just PM YT link and you'll give us the ranking.

selling those services on a public marketplace = method patch by yt.

i can make more money long term keeping it private and doing it on my own channels than selling it

but i will open a marketplace thread and sell some services that we don't use much.
but Can be used for yt.

 

[anthony1999]

selling those services on a public marketplace = method patch by yt.

i can make more money long term keeping it private and doing it on my own channels than selling it

but i will open a marketplace thread and sell some services that we don't use much.
but Can be used for yt.

What does Youtube do to patch it? I've heard about old ways to rank was to inject HR views but it was patched because those views weren't really HR. They became 1 min views instead. My guess would be the way YT patches those methods would be by making those views not count towards the algorithm correct?

 

[speedyallan77]

What does Youtube do to patch it? I've heard about old ways to rank was to inject HR views but it was patched because those views weren't really HR. They became 1 min views instead. My guess would be the way YT patches those methods would be by making those views not count towards the algorithm correct?

youtube checks the smm methods sold in public.
i think they verify the patterns of how views come on the videos from these services, the moment they see artificial pattern,they can easily ask their engineers to make an update to the platform that changes the way things work.

after that point the existing smm method won't work as yt would have made an update that patched it.

so smms will have to come up with a new method to bypass.

it's a constant battle between yt and smm panels lol.


and yes when they make an update that would also mean that the method might no longer have an effect on ranking algo

 

[anthony1999]

youtube checks the smm methods sold in public.
i think they verify the patterns of how views come on the videos from these services, the moment they see artificial pattern,they can easily ask their engineers to make an update to the platform that changes the way things work.

after that point the existing smm method won't work as yt would have made an update that patched it.

so smms will have to come up with a new method to bypass.

it's a constant battle between yt and smm panels lol.


and yes when they make an update that would also mean that the method might no longer have an effect on ranking algo

So if that's the case, then should we as BHW users who are looking for SMM methods to promote/rank a video just drop the use of this entirely? Given that YT platform is so good at patching anything we buy at BHW Marketplace?

 

[speedyallan77]

So if that's the case, then should we as BHW users who are looking for SMM methods to promote/rank a video just drop the use of this entirely? Given that YT platform is so good at patching anything we buy at BHW Marketplace?

i suggest you to keep hunting and testing multiple stuff yourself.
but when you find the working thing don't post any method publicly.
coz man any public method always dies fast.
it won't last


but on bhw u can always share hints and knowledge that way people find themselves with hints.

 

[jasondenzer]

I made an order and although I did get 1k views + social signals you promised, this did NOT help with my Youtube rankings and suggestions. YT's algorithm has several factors but one thing's certain that if a boosting service DID indeed work, I'd see more impressions per day generated. Unfortunately after a few days since ordering, the video did not rank better from Youtube's algorithm. That video when searching the title does get #1 rank but that search term is very niche and too low of a volume.

Here are the day to day impressions 3 days before delivery and 3 days after.

3 days before delivery: 94
2 days before delivery: 107
1 day before delivery: 108
Delivery day: 114
1 day after delivery: 82
2 days after delivery: 97
3 days after delivery: 115

Notice how it's just around the same amount. If those 1k views really did help, I'd be getting at least 200 impressions per day. The biggest problem here is the average view duration. I'm getting like 20-30 seconds. Like how is that gonna rank a video better? I don't understand how you claim a service is working. Did you really test this yourself to see if it did work? And what was your indicator of testing? Because 1k views + 1k social signals isn't worth the $20 ($18 discounted). I can prob get like 5k views with that retention for the same value as this.

Sorry but I have to be blunt and honest. I gave you a positive review for delivery but I would've given Neutral if there was an option as this did not promise an improvement on SEO. @GuerillaZ

EDIT: I'm not saying that it has to boost to #1 but if it had any ranking value, I would've seen MORE impressions via Suggestions/Homepage/Search.

This was my experience. It delivered but doesn't increase rank value (at least so far 3 days later).