Thoughts on Covid-19?

[Preon]

https://www.prevention.com/health/a33297904/what-is-intubation/ ...Incubators are for premature babies bud.

You're really good at copy-pasting stats though

Hey, you know that by selectively choosing to add the UK Civilian death stat from WWII (because it's obviously much, much lower than the military deaths), you're doing what's known as "statistical manipulation".

Aka, showing the stats that support your point instead of the fair stats. You showed total US deaths in WWII (military and civilian) because that was about the same as reported US COVID deaths, but used British civilian deaths from WWII only, because total deaths would no doubt be much higher than UK COVID deaths, and that wouldn't support the point you're trying to make.

Nice work mate, pretty clever.

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My mistake with the intubators.

Well, the UK was involved in the war much longer than the US, over two years longer.

But, the stats still don't lie. WW2 still worked out to roughly 78,000 deaths a year in the UK. Which is easily surpassed by Covid.

I don't really get your point. Are you back to it's all fake and manipulated?

 

[Biz Idea Lab]

Seriously, who cares? I have no thoughts on Covid-19 lol. I have better things to do instead of thinking about COVID-19!!

I am surprised to see how people panics about this virus where the death rate is only 1%.

 

[nakamura]

Completely forgot about that argument that seems to crop up again and again. Ignore all other evidence. Not every country has the same broken for-profit health care system.

UK Civilian WW2 deaths = 70,000
UK Covid Deaths = 93,290

Looks like the UK has broken the record without being paid for using incubators (not intubators).

USSR WW2 deaths = 27,000,000
Russia Covid deaths = 66.214

and now?

You only pick the statistics that fit into your narrative. You are working like the mainstream media. Such a low level.

By the way: Even during WW2, there was not such a crazy lockdown as there is now. Yes, you read it right: Even during WW2 german people could go out, buy bread, go out and play games, play football, etc. same goes for people in the UK, etc.

 

[Deleted member 1333509]

My mistake with the intubators.

Well, the UK was involved in the war much longer than the US, over two years longer.

But, the stats still don't lie. WW2 still worked out to roughly 78,000 deaths a year in the UK. Which is easily surpassed by Covid.

I don't really get your point. Are you back to it's all fake and manipulated?

My point is that maybe if the UK incentivised its doctors to chalk up deaths as COVID like has happened in the US, that figure might have been inflated enough for you not to have to selectively choose only British civilian WWII deaths.

 

[Preon]

USSR WW2 deaths = 27,000,000
Russia Covid deaths = 66.214

and now?

You only pick the statistics that fit into your narrative. You are working like the mainstream media. Such a low level.

By the way: Even during WW2, there was not such a crazy lockdown as there is now. Yes, you read it right: Even during WW2 german people could go out, buy bread, go out and play games, play football, etc. same goes for people in the UK, etc.

I wouldn't trust Russian figures for anything.

You can't catch WW2 from your neighbour, can you?

 

[Deleted member 1333509]

I wouldn't trust Russian figures for anything.

Funny, holocaust deniers say the same thing about the Jews.

Pretty sure they're not Russian figures either, but recognised universally.

 

[Preon]

My point is that maybe if the UK incentivised its doctors to chalk up deaths as COVID like has happened in the US, that figure might have been inflated enough for you not to have to selectively choose only British civilian WWII deaths.

What incentive? I've never heard of this.

Boris Johnson would have liked nothing better than for Covid to disappear. That's why when it first appeared he said it wasn't a big deal, why he claimed he shook hands with multiple covid patients. He changed his tune when he nearly dies from it.

My point is not to install hysteria, but to emphasis that diminishing the seriousness of covid isn't doing anyone any favours. Its counterproductive and likely means it'll drag on far longer than it needs to.

 

[Preon]

Funny, holocaust deniers say the same thing about the Jews.

Pretty sure they're not Russian figures either, but recognised universally.

They are reported by Russia.
Are you saying doubting Russian reporting is the same as being a holocaust denier? Grow up.

 

[Deleted member 1333509]

What incentive? I've never heard of this.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...ore-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
Tldr - $13,000 for a COVID death, $39,000 if they needed intubation.

Pretty well-know fact at this point.

They are reported by Russia.
Are you saying doubting Russian reporting is the same as being a holocaust denier? Grow up.

I'm saying if you can't even trust WWII statistics because Russian people made them, you have an unfounded prejudice against one nationality.

 

[Brenms]

Funny, holocaust deniers say the same thing about the Jews.

Well, the 6M deaths thing is total bullshit. They arbitrarily came up with that number. Serious question, though. How does questioning blatant falsehoods make one and anti-semite?

 

[Preon]

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...ore-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
Tldr - $13,000 for a COVID death, $39,000 if they needed intubation.

Pretty well-know fact at this point.

For the NHS?

 

[Deleted member 1333509]

Well, the 6M deaths thing is total bullshit. They arbitrarily came up with that number. Serious question, though. How does questioning blatant falsehoods make one and anti-semite?

I don't think it does.

For the NHS?

For the NHS what?

I think the answer you were searching for was "Oh, US doctors have been incentivised to chalk up random deaths as COVID and that could have inflated the figures. I'll take that into account and rethink my perspective based on this new found information".

 

[bigcalc]

Well, the 6M deaths thing is total bullshit. They arbitrarily came up with that number. Serious question, though. How does questioning blatant falsehoods make one and anti-semite?

Denying all available historical evidence doesn't make you an anti-semite but an ignorant.

 

[Deleted member 120847]

It's a great way of knowing immediately what kind of person you are.

 

[statsers]

 

[Preon]

I don't think it does.


For the NHS what?

I think the answer you were searching for was "Oh, US doctors have been incentivised to chalk up random deaths as COVID and that could have inflated the figures. I'll take that into account and rethink my perspective based on this new found information".

So, what about the rest of the world without the same incentives? They are justing doing it for the fun of it.

 

[Preon]

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...ore-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
Tldr - $13,000 for a COVID death, $39,000 if they needed intubation.

Pretty well-know fact at this point.


I'm saying if you can't even trust WWII statistics because Russian people made them, you have an unfounded prejudice against one nationality.

I wouldn't trust a dictatorship. Its not unreasonable.

 

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[Deleted member 1333509]

So, what about the rest of the world without the same incentives? They are justing doing it for the fun of it.

So after I give a link showing that US doctors are incentivised to list deaths as COVID deaths you're onto the next thing now and just disregard that.

Nothing more genuine than someone that focuses on the points that support what they're saying and completely ignore anything that doesn't.

 

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