[Journey] Building an iOS & Android App Empire
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I go with the trends/demand and a lot of ideas also come from experience in the past. Then I make sure I am providing people with an app which is helpful for them.
I haven't make games yet. But if I make games I will probably use Unity and then compile for both platforms.
For other apps I am using: Flutter, Java/Kotlin (for Android) and Swift (for iOS)
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its the same for games , they suspend for no reason like you said in past 2 pages
i make games for google play and it takes me 30 days to fully make and publish a game
but apps on the other hand takes only 5-10 days max
About admob : EVEN mine got limited in 1 days wtf gugal piece of scum bags , i bought aged admob 1 year old
i make games for google play and it takes me 30 days to fully make and publish a game
but apps on the other hand takes only 5-10 days max
About admob : EVEN mine got limited in 1 days wtf gugal piece of scum bags , i bought aged admob 1 year old
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They do whatever they want , scum bags , bot flags and they press ban button
they dont care whether you have app or game
- Mar 22, 2013
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I think a good way to avoid getting limited is using mediation and do it as follows:
Send Tier 3 traffic to other ad networks (Unity, FAN, Adlovin) and Tier 1 traffic (high quality traffic) to Admob.
I really believe the same guys that are mass flagging my accounts are also the ones which get my account limited. The suspension of the app and the ad mob limit was in the same week...and all the traffic was organic.
Send Tier 3 traffic to other ad networks (Unity, FAN, Adlovin) and Tier 1 traffic (high quality traffic) to Admob.
I really believe the same guys that are mass flagging my accounts are also the ones which get my account limited. The suspension of the app and the ad mob limit was in the same week...and all the traffic was organic.
- Mar 22, 2013
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Thats weird. This happened to me once (and I have like 15 apps approved) and after sending the appeal they approved the app again. Is it a normal app or a game?
Btw. today is the day of Admob payout! Wish me luck. I guess the chances are 80% they are going to suspend the whole account just right before payout. They did it before.
D'aconia
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Wow didn't was here few days. And already so many updates. Thanks for sharing your experience.
We will certainly have to face these problems, if not in Admob, then on other Google sites and services. So just need to adapt and search additional solutions. Avoiding any complication is not a good long term strategy.
Wish you luck with the payout !
Agreed.
We will certainly have to face these problems, if not in Admob, then on other Google sites and services. So just need to adapt and search additional solutions. Avoiding any complication is not a good long term strategy.
Wish you luck with the payout !
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i sent them appeal too , it been already 50 days and they wont approve me ... if u get 4.1 violation in at the very beginning , they will never ever approve the app , but if its approved
and then u get 4.1 violation or any other and about 6-12 hrs u get approved
- Mar 22, 2013
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Update:
Admob sent me the payout and didn't suspend the account (yet). I already got the $2k in my bank account now. Looks like they already sent it yesterday. I didn't really expect this.
Just for the record:
They limited my Admob account (they say invalid traffic concerns) on 4th January. After this, they suspended three apps that I used for Admob.
And just saying: They suspended my other account (check this) which had the almost same situation. They removed an app and then suspended the Admob account (using the suspended app as the reason).
My guess is it has something to do with the account age. I made the account that I just got the payment with during 2017. I used this account for Adsense first (had around $40 in earnings to this point, but didn't get any payment because of the threshold) and then in September 2020 I signed up for Admob.
Admob sent me the payout and didn't suspend the account (yet). I already got the $2k in my bank account now. Looks like they already sent it yesterday. I didn't really expect this.
Just for the record:
They limited my Admob account (they say invalid traffic concerns) on 4th January. After this, they suspended three apps that I used for Admob.
And just saying: They suspended my other account (check this) which had the almost same situation. They removed an app and then suspended the Admob account (using the suspended app as the reason).
My guess is it has something to do with the account age. I made the account that I just got the payment with during 2017. I used this account for Adsense first (had around $40 in earnings to this point, but didn't get any payment because of the threshold) and then in September 2020 I signed up for Admob.
KomonMam
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Agreed.
I did invalid activity for one year (2018-2019) and received several payments. I didn’t know much about apps and ads, just watched some misleading youtube videos and boom. After one year they suspended my account for valid reasons obviously. My account was 2 years old(2016 ig)
Yes, It's about account age.
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It maybe... my admob account got banned that i created last year as i reach the payment threshold for valid reason, was learning the app and ads business as well rookie mistakes. However my developer account is from 2014, back then i upload an app with copyright material just to test out my coding skills and learn the app approval process and policy. It got removed in 2014(back then it was not marked as suspended but rather remove) I felt like the market was already saturated and my coding skill in android and niche ideas was not great,i was just learning. So i decide this would require alot of time and dedication to learn create and market an app by myself successfully with very low investment other than my time therefore risk is low if app generates nothing in terms of income. So i didn't continue which was a mistake as knowing what i know now if i continue my apps would probably be making a stable income or i would have already made alot of revenue from them even if i kept getting banned and start the process over.
In 2019 my skills was up to PAR so i decided to give it another go, i upload some white niche apps and also a streaming app (which am surprise playstore allows my app) however admob flag it due to streaming content not allowed and banned my account. However google was cool with it in the playstore.
Eventually two of my apps including the streaming app got suspended and i also notice the one that said removed from 2014 was change to suspended. So basically i had 3 strikes but my developer account was not terminated. My app got suspended because it was using old appodeal SDK which had security issues. I also have to add they gave me multiple chance to update my app before suspending them. I updated them multiple time but didn't remove the old SDK properly, by the time i figure out what was the issue it was too late google ban my streaming app and other app due to old vungle SDK which appodeal implements.
I appeal both apps and was actually successful for both appeals. They reinstated both my apps with all its ranking and reviews and i updated them. the one from 2014 that was remove for right reason i didn't appeal for that as that was just testing the process for publishing app. However i made another rookie mistake and forgot to remove some old SDK code from my streaming app therefore it got suspended again and this time they didn't accept my appeal so i have currently 2 suspended app (one from 2014 and streaming app) as the other one was properly updated.
They said i could re-upload the app with new package name when i fix the issue which i did 2 months ago and so far so good.
KomonMam
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I seee now It's all good.
Are you using admob or FAN for now?
I try to get FAN to accept my app a while back but they mention some violation with streaming so i didn't bother to upload the rest of my app to FAN even though they were all different niches. As it gave me flash back to admob whereby they will eventually accept my apps then when payment time flag it for violations they didn't mention at first. I must say admob fill rate and ECPM probably they best. Currently im using appodeal automatic accounts which links to the ad network. That way appodeal pays me direct and dont have to mess with other ad network payment system as when you live in a 3rd world country the banking system is terrible and nearly impossible to receive payment from big ad networks as they won't facilitate special request for payment due to laws etc. So i use payoneer and currently only appodeal provides payout to non US client via payoneer.
If anyone know any alternative ad network, would be greatly appreciated.
As for appodeal revenue, it is around the same for me as on admob but admob made slightly more no huge difference.
The only huge difference i notice between appodeal and admob is that the fill rate is very low on appodeal while admob is always 100%. even though they make around the same revenue(no big gap) but ECPM always better on admob around $10, while on appodeal the ECPM is $2-$3. However yesterday appodeal ECPM went to $6 for the first time lol.
Created this BHW account same time i created my google account. This and many other forums GROOM me... Wealth of information is online if you take the time out to find it and learn it.
This might be my first post as this topic was very interesting to me since i am on the same journey but i have been lurking in the shadow for years creating multiple stream of passive income.
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- Mar 22, 2013
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Update:
Earnings average: $100 through FAN + Unity daily since my last update. I guess with Admob I would have make way more money. Somehow the earnings for iOS are extremely low with FAN. Its not only that the fill rate is only 70%, but the ECPM is 3x less than on Admob.
With Android FAN is doing pretty well. 90% fill rate and decent ECPM (still lower than Google). And just saying: I already blocked the Tier 3 countries, so the average ECPM should actually be higher than on Admob, where I got a lot of traffic from countries like Indonesia, PH, Thailand and India. Now they are blocked! They can not access my beautiful apps and abuse them, because they are blocked. Very nasty.
Uploaded two more Android apps. One of them got published already. Google took like 7 days to review it. I didn't make any other new app so far, because I was busy updating my existing apps to FAN and Appodeal.
I was drinking a beer last night and I was thinking about what I would do differently if I would start from the beginning:
Depending on the niche of the apps I would:
Probably make two accounts. One safe account, where I only give access to countries, where people won't do unethical crap like mass reporting and another account, where I would just give access to everyone.
About monetization:
I would block Tier 3 countries from seeing ads. Yes, I would lose a few $, but it would keep my account safe.
Or even better: I would use mediation and send Tier 3 traffic to a different ad network. You can actually select the countries you want to show ads to. I would use Admob only for Tier 1 & 2 countries and a network like FAN, Unity, etc. for Tier 3.
Also, I would make sure I wouldn't buy keyword installs or any other kind of "invalid traffic" / bots and run ads. Basically, terminating ANY KIND of risk.
This would probably the best and safest way.
Earnings average: $100 through FAN + Unity daily since my last update. I guess with Admob I would have make way more money. Somehow the earnings for iOS are extremely low with FAN. Its not only that the fill rate is only 70%, but the ECPM is 3x less than on Admob.
With Android FAN is doing pretty well. 90% fill rate and decent ECPM (still lower than Google). And just saying: I already blocked the Tier 3 countries, so the average ECPM should actually be higher than on Admob, where I got a lot of traffic from countries like Indonesia, PH, Thailand and India. Now they are blocked! They can not access my beautiful apps and abuse them, because they are blocked. Very nasty.
Uploaded two more Android apps. One of them got published already. Google took like 7 days to review it. I didn't make any other new app so far, because I was busy updating my existing apps to FAN and Appodeal.
I was drinking a beer last night and I was thinking about what I would do differently if I would start from the beginning:
Depending on the niche of the apps I would:
Probably make two accounts. One safe account, where I only give access to countries, where people won't do unethical crap like mass reporting and another account, where I would just give access to everyone.
About monetization:
I would block Tier 3 countries from seeing ads. Yes, I would lose a few $, but it would keep my account safe.
Or even better: I would use mediation and send Tier 3 traffic to a different ad network. You can actually select the countries you want to show ads to. I would use Admob only for Tier 1 & 2 countries and a network like FAN, Unity, etc. for Tier 3.
Also, I would make sure I wouldn't buy keyword installs or any other kind of "invalid traffic" / bots and run ads. Basically, terminating ANY KIND of risk.
This would probably the best and safest way.
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