Looking for twitch expert

[Giaco90]

Hello guys,
I want to start a twitch streaming account and I need someone who can explain me a few things especially regarding smm services like fake live views followers etc.
Anyone has experience with twitch?

 

[Priince1337]

Ask your questions and see if we can help.

 

[Giaco90]

Ask your questions and see if we can help.

I'm wondering if it is possible to fake success on twitch as it is on instagram.

Are smm panel's followers reliable? Do they drop?
Do live views services actually work?
Is twitch applying any kind of shadowban or penalty if you buy fake engagement like instagram?

 

[JayDee1984]

But why would you do that? I mean, you need to be really good in the game you are streaming and people will join eventually.

Or be responsive and handle your audience (depends on the game), bring something else to the table, be unique, CREATE VALUE and let time do the rest.

Which game you plan to broadcast?

 

[SocialManager]

I'm wondering if it is possible to fake success on twitch as it is on instagram.

Are smm panel's followers reliable? Do they drop?
Do live views services actually work?
Is twitch applying any kind of shadowban or penalty if you buy fake engagement like instagram?

Most followers services will drop some. You should be prepared to just spend small amounts trying different services. You don't want to buy lots fast anyways, so the investment will be small. There are better ways to get enough followers to start to build up your profile, such as follow or follow in the bot channels on Twitch. I really wouldn't recommend buying followers from SMM panels unless they allow very small amounts like 10 followers minimum purchase. If you buy 100 followers it will be obvious they are fake and they wont benefit you at the beginning. Your goal at the start is just to reach the minimum to get affiliate status, and you don't need SMM panel followers for this.

Yes, live views services work. Again, you need very small amounts and just try them out. If you have 500 fake views, it will be obvious they are fake. If you have 20 fake viewers, much better and safer.

Twitch will ban you, but I have never heard of a shadowban. I used fake engagement and got affiliate status and never got banned.

SMM panels are better for established accounts who need a boost to the next level and where it will not be so obvious its fake.

For new accounts you only need a little bit of fake engagement which you can get directly on twitch. Try searching Twitch follow for follow on Google.

 

[SocialManager]

But why would you do that? I mean, you need to be really good in the game you are streaming and people will join eventually.

Or be responsive and handle your audience (depends on the game), bring something else to the table, be unique, CREATE VALUE and let time do the rest.

Which game you plan to broadcast?

There are thousands of streamers who offer an amazing stream that will never have any success on Twitch because they are buried too far down in the rankings.

If you add in a little bit of fake engagement, it can boost you way up so that real people discover your stream.

I have watched many great streamers who have been streaming 4+ days a week for years who never get much success (Max 100 viewers).

Then news guys can come in and boost themselves up with a few fake views and suddenly those guys are pulling 200+ viewers consistently after 2 months.

You might want to wait 3 years to see if you get natural success, but most people on this site are not willing to wait to find out.

 

[JayDee1984]

There are thousands of streamers who offer an amazing stream that will never have any success on Twitch because they are buried too far down in the rankings.

If you add in a little bit of fake engagement, it can boost you way up so that real people discover your stream.

I have watched many great streamers who have been streaming 4+ days a week for years who never get much success (Max 100 viewers).

Then news guys can come in and boost themselves up with a few fake views and suddenly those guys are pulling 200+ viewers consistently after 2 months.

You might want to wait 3 years to see if you get natural success, but most people on this site are not willing to wait to find out.

Hmm, I’m not sure that your standard for great streamers are really great, I mean, if they where really great, their crowd would have grown after few years, why? Because people talk, when you are REALLY great, your community will push you forward.


I do agree that if you boost yourself with tens or hundreds of followers is fine, but if you fake more, and not worth it, you will never make it.

My two cents, good luck op.

 

[Giaco90]

After 10 years in the instagram game I got to the conclusion that 80% of the business is fake, even million followers influencers who are making tons of money are faking followers and engagment ( not all of them).

I will start my twitch journey with a big sponsor so I was wondering if the twitch "game" is similar to the instagram game where you can use smm panel's to help your "natural" growth.

Also I'm not looking to monetize the audience that much, I prefer to monetize the numbers trough sponsors.

 

[SocialManager]

Hmm, I’m not sure that your standard for great streamers are really great, I mean, if they where really great, their crowd would have grown after few years, why? Because people talk, when you are REALLY great, your community will push you forward.

You are simply not correct. There are a limited number of streams that can be watched at any single time, because the audience is limited. It is not possible that every streamer that has an objectively great stream has a growing audience, because you would need to take viewers away from someone else at some point. There are literally MILLIONS of streamers on Twitch, you can easily be competing against hundreds of others of streamers in the same category, plus those viewers you are competing for might also like other categories.

If someone is a big fan of Shroud but also thinks your stream is great, and you both stream at the same time, you are almost always going to lose out to Shroud.

 

[Giaco90]

You are simply not correct. There are a limited number of streams that can be watched at any single time, because the audience is limited. It is not possible that every streamer that has an objectively great stream has a growing audience, because you would need to take viewers away from someone else at some point. There are literally MILLIONS of streamers on Twitch, you can easily be competing against hundreds of others of streamers in the same category, plus those viewers you are competing for might also like other categories.

If someone is a big fan of Shroud but also thinks your stream is great, and you both stream at the same time, you are almost always going to lose out to Shroud.

So are fake live viewers service working and reliable to boost your stream in the charts?

 

[SocialManager]

After 10 years in the instagram game I got to the conclusion that 80% of the business is fake, even million followers influencers who are making tons of money are faking followers and engagment ( not all of them).

I will start my twitch journey with a big sponsor so I was wondering if the twitch "game" is similar to the instagram game where you can use smm panel's to help your "natural" growth.

Also I'm not looking to monetize the audience that much, I prefer to monetize the numbers trough sponsors.

Do you actually use Twitch? Like, do you watch streams? Because it is important you understand what Twitch is.

People want you to monetize them. People want to subscribe to your channel so they have a special badge and special emotes.

I don't know what your comment is supposed to mean about starting with a big sponsor. Why would a big sponsor care if you are streaming to 20 bots?

So are fake live viewers service working and reliable to boost your stream in the charts?

Yes, of course. You can even just do it yourself open up your own stream on different browsers using proxies, your phone, tablet etc. Create different accounts, install free VPNs, open your own stream and you will boost yourself in the ranks.

But this doesn't get you hundreds or thousands of viewers, this gets you 1-10 viewers, maybe 20 viewers. 100 viewers is considered a very successful stream and you need good content to hold viewers for this.

 

[Giaco90]

Do you actually use Twitch? Like, do you watch streams? Because it is important you understand what Twitch is.

People want you to monetize them. People want to subscribe to your channel so they have a special badge and special emotes.

I don't know what your comment is supposed to mean about starting with a big sponsor. Why would a big sponsor care if you are streaming to 20 bots?

I have an huge audience on another social so they will provide me everything I need to start streaming on twitch, competitive and for fun.
I make money trough sponsors who pay me for promotion just like an influencer

 

[Priince1337]

I'm wondering if it is possible to fake success on twitch as it is on instagram.

Are smm panel's followers reliable? Do they drop?
Do live views services actually work?
Is twitch applying any kind of shadowban or penalty if you buy fake engagement like instagram?

It's definitely possible to fake success there.
You need the right tools (not some bs smm panels).

They're mainly to kickstart your account by getting viewers and therefore ranking higher on the respective games.
In the end you will still need to be a good streamer (good or entertaining). If you're not either one of those, fake views/engagement won't help you.

 

[JayDee1984]

You are simply not correct. There are a limited number of streams that can be watched at any single time, because the audience is limited. It is not possible that every streamer that has an objectively great stream has a growing audience, because you would need to take viewers away from someone else at some point. There are literally MILLIONS of streamers on Twitch, you can easily be competing against hundreds of others of streamers in the same category, plus those viewers you are competing for might also like other categories.

If someone is a big fan of Shroud but also thinks your stream is great, and you both stream at the same time, you are almost always going to lose out to Shroud.

I agree it’s a zero sum game, that’s why you should leverage YouTube, the gram and TT as well to push people to watch you streaming.

 

[JayDee1984]

It's definitely possible to fake success there.
You need the right tools (not some bs smm panels).

They're mainly to kickstart your account by getting viewers and therefore ranking higher on the respective games.
In the end you will still need to be a good streamer (good or entertaining). If you're not either one of those, fake views/engagement won't help you.

This.

 

[JayDee1984]

After 10 years in the instagram game I got to the conclusion that 80% of the business is fake, even million followers influencers who are making tons of money are faking followers and engagment ( not all of them).

I will start my twitch journey with a big sponsor so I was wondering if the twitch "game" is similar to the instagram game where you can use smm panel's to help your "natural" growth.

Also I'm not looking to monetize the audience that much, I prefer to monetize the numbers trough sponsors.

Hmmm, so you are not counting on subscribers?

 

[Giaco90]

I plan to start streaming with a super HQ quality, facecam and play some games at a good level of skill, I will try to leverage my other social media to bring viewers/followers/subs and then I will also add some smm live viewers followers go statt getting some authority.

 

[Giaco90]

Hmmm, so you are not counting on subscribers?

Not really at first, but I have 300k followers on another social, if I can add more followers on twitch I can get more brand deals and sponsors.
Subs will hopefully come later.

 

[Giaco90]

Do you actually use Twitch? Like, do you watch streams? Because it is important you understand what Twitch is.

People want you to monetize them. People want to subscribe to your channel so they have a special badge and special emotes.

I don't know what your comment is supposed to mean about starting with a big sponsor. Why would a big sponsor care if you are streaming to 20 bots?



Yes, of course. You can even just do it yourself open up your own stream on different browsers using proxies, your phone, tablet etc. Create different accounts, install free VPNs, open your own stream and you will boost yourself in the ranks.

But this doesn't get you hundreds or thousands of viewers, this gets you 1-10 viewers, maybe 20 viewers. 100 viewers is considered a very successful stream and you need good content to hold viewers for this.

I read some old post of yours talking about developing your own live viewers bot.

I have access to large number of proxies, how could I do that?

 

[Priince1337]

I read some old post of yours talking about developing your own live viewers bot.

I have access to large number of proxies, how could I do that?

It’s not that easy with twitch. You can’t just buy proxies and put them into a bot. Proxies get flagged fast and views drop. Also you need to simulate engagement.