[Journey] Building an iOS & Android App Empire
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Yepp, but it may contain stuffs that can be harmful. Google "download apk from playstore" and see what works.
Totally varies app to app. In general, you might be able to change things such as strings from the app, and permissions. It is pretty hard to change the logic. It's like reverse engineering an exe file. Some people know how to, but I am not that good. Are you that good? May be, try it.
hey, awesome journey!
greetings from austria!
do you have further updates on daily organic/paid downloads per day?
how does iap work at the moment? would it work to implement a monthly subscription for your kind of apps?
weird that tiktok did not get you approved. usually they autoapprove as it is a selfserve ad marketplace. the cpi is quite good.
do you do any organic content promotion (fb/ig/yt/tt postings)?
good luck!
- Mar 22, 2013
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Yes, you can reskin games for Android. Getting installs is the difficult part here. You might get a few here and there, but without proper marketing, they won't take off.
On the Play Store I get a lot organic 5 star reviews. On the Apple Store its quite difficult. So I bought a few for Apple just for a bit social proof.
At the moment very busy with my own projects. Maybe someday I am going to open a BST, but at the moment I didn't think about it well.
For the Apple Store: I ONLY get organic downloads. Just for one iOS app I use paid ads (the ones from apple itself) to drive in-app purchases.
For the Play Store: I am using Adwords, but just a bit. I try to rank the apps, so downloads will come organically. From my experience the traffic quality from Adwords is really low. At some point I even thought these are bots. Like they are installing the app and uninstall them right after. With organic traffic its mcuh different.
For my apps a monthly subscription wouldn't work well. I just have one app which offers a premium version and i already made around $100+ with it. I think monthly subscription is probably the best way to earn, because you are independent from any ad network like Admob. However, to monetize the app these way you really need a great working app with some real value and most of all: you need to keep improving the app and add new features otherwise people will cancel the subscription and move on to a competitor with a similar pricing or more/better features.
yes...no idea about TikTok. I made an account, but they simply didn't confirm it. And a few days later I tried to login, but nothing happened. Its weird.. maybe I will try with a different account again soon.
I have a Facebook group with 30k members, which I grew only from the app traffic. So I got users from the apps and encouraged them to join the FB group and pages. Its a great way to promote new apps and drive some installs.
About IG, not really yet. I will make some IG accounts...but it also must fit to the niche. I don't think people in my niche are looking for anything related on IG.
I had a YouTube channel and also got some installs from it, but YT deleted the channel and I couldn't login anymore. For whatever reason. Gmail account was disabled. I will make a new one soon..
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Update:
No app got deleted. Earnings are still around $100-120 per day.
I made one more Play Store account last week and I will upload two apps on there. + I am looking forward to upload two more iOS apps.
After this I willl move on and focus more on games, so I can call myself game developer on my Facebook and Tinder profile
No app got deleted. Earnings are still around $100-120 per day.
I made one more Play Store account last week and I will upload two apps on there. + I am looking forward to upload two more iOS apps.
After this I willl move on and focus more on games, so I can call myself game developer on my Facebook and Tinder profile
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100% matches rate confirmed.
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all they want is the in-game currency
- Mar 22, 2013
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Another update:
There is nothing worse than waking up to bad news. So, I woke up today and saw an email from Google Admob. They limited my account and the match rate is now 0%. Therefore earnings yesterday were $50 and today is $0.
Why did they limit the account?
They say "invalid traffic concerns" which is bullshit, because I only have organic traffic from their Play Store and for two apps I am running Adwords paid ads. I don't click on my own ads or look at them. I don't even have the apps installed on my phone, because I am using an iPhone and not an Android.
Whats weird:
They wrote the actions were issued 8th November 2020, which is simply wrong. My account was working well and didn't have any problem in November or December. And just so you guys know, everything I did was legit. No blackhat stuff. I made apps, placed ads, uploaded the apps and that's it. I didn't use any weird blackhat technique to get traffic or such.
So here is what I think is going to happen:
They will suspend my account for whatever reason and keep the money. Unfortunately, this is reality.
What will I do now?
I have to update all the apps and change the ad network. But first of all, I have to implement the other ad networks in the apps themselves and this is going to take time...and then it takes additional time to upload the update and get it approved. I think I am going to use Facebook ads for a few apps and for the other half Unity ads, just for comparison.
By this point, I want to say I never had any problem with Facebook Audience Network or Unity ads. No trouble at all.
But here is what is really pissing me off and at this point, I also get a bit angry:
I try to develop and publish new apps as much as I can. Unfortunately, dealing with Google makes it impossible. Why? Because they keep doing shit. They keep removing apps for ridiculous reasons. They keep suspending or limiting accounts. I feel like running a marathon and there is someone throwing stones at me, someone who wants to push me down. Its a huge burden, its a huge waste of time and of course: Its also a huge waste of money. Now my earnings are $0 for several days because the match rate is 0%. Furthermore, they are probably suspending the account and keep the $2k I made in December.
So my advice to everyone here is: Try to rely on Google as less as you can. I don't want to start whining or ranting, but once you have a problem with them, you should know there is no one you can talk to. You can send an appeal, but thats it..and sometimes they don't even reply. No phone number, no email address, no person.
Whats my conclusion?
I won't use Google Admob if they suspend my account. I won't make a new one. I will stick with Unity and FAN.
There is nothing worse than waking up to bad news. So, I woke up today and saw an email from Google Admob. They limited my account and the match rate is now 0%. Therefore earnings yesterday were $50 and today is $0.
Why did they limit the account?
They say "invalid traffic concerns" which is bullshit, because I only have organic traffic from their Play Store and for two apps I am running Adwords paid ads. I don't click on my own ads or look at them. I don't even have the apps installed on my phone, because I am using an iPhone and not an Android.
Whats weird:
They wrote the actions were issued 8th November 2020, which is simply wrong. My account was working well and didn't have any problem in November or December. And just so you guys know, everything I did was legit. No blackhat stuff. I made apps, placed ads, uploaded the apps and that's it. I didn't use any weird blackhat technique to get traffic or such.
So here is what I think is going to happen:
They will suspend my account for whatever reason and keep the money. Unfortunately, this is reality.
What will I do now?
I have to update all the apps and change the ad network. But first of all, I have to implement the other ad networks in the apps themselves and this is going to take time...and then it takes additional time to upload the update and get it approved. I think I am going to use Facebook ads for a few apps and for the other half Unity ads, just for comparison.
By this point, I want to say I never had any problem with Facebook Audience Network or Unity ads. No trouble at all.
But here is what is really pissing me off and at this point, I also get a bit angry:
I try to develop and publish new apps as much as I can. Unfortunately, dealing with Google makes it impossible. Why? Because they keep doing shit. They keep removing apps for ridiculous reasons. They keep suspending or limiting accounts. I feel like running a marathon and there is someone throwing stones at me, someone who wants to push me down. Its a huge burden, its a huge waste of time and of course: Its also a huge waste of money. Now my earnings are $0 for several days because the match rate is 0%. Furthermore, they are probably suspending the account and keep the $2k I made in December.
So my advice to everyone here is: Try to rely on Google as less as you can. I don't want to start whining or ranting, but once you have a problem with them, you should know there is no one you can talk to. You can send an appeal, but thats it..and sometimes they don't even reply. No phone number, no email address, no person.
Whats my conclusion?
I won't use Google Admob if they suspend my account. I won't make a new one. I will stick with Unity and FAN.
- Mar 22, 2013
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Another update:
Two apps have been removed for the same reason like I mentioned in a few pages before.
And guess what? These apps were on two different accounts, but they have been reported by the same person. It was someone from Thailand. How do I know it? Google actually sent me the screenshots that were used to report me. They attached them. The banner ads were in Thai, so his location was in Thailand. The time the apps have been reported was almost the same. So this guy downloaded a bunch of apps, took screenshots and reported them one after another....and Google is just allowing it. These guys are taking advantage of the policies.
It just proved my point that I believed the main reason my apps got removed are competitors. I will block Thailand, Pakistan, Bangladesh and those countries now.
Two apps have been removed for the same reason like I mentioned in a few pages before.
And guess what? These apps were on two different accounts, but they have been reported by the same person. It was someone from Thailand. How do I know it? Google actually sent me the screenshots that were used to report me. They attached them. The banner ads were in Thai, so his location was in Thailand. The time the apps have been reported was almost the same. So this guy downloaded a bunch of apps, took screenshots and reported them one after another....and Google is just allowing it. These guys are taking advantage of the policies.
It just proved my point that I believed the main reason my apps got removed are competitors. I will block Thailand, Pakistan, Bangladesh and those countries now.
Not sure if that would really help, as NordVPN accounts cost 3$/yr.. But worth a shot.
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I can see from my apps there is a lot of traffic from Thailand. It could be possible this niche is hot in Thailand and there are some guys in the same niche who are reporting others. And if I would be someone who reports an app I would choose Thailand as location.
Maybe this guy even clicked on my ads so often and got my admob account limited. Its a fucking shitshow. And I dont blame this imbecile, I blame Google for taking action without giving a single fuck
Btw. I mentioned before a Thai person reported my app. It is probably the same person
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Encourage them by telling them there is a community to help each other. or promise them rewards or such things. something they want or need.
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i belive they are doing click fraud on your admob and thats why you are getting limited
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Yeah mate, I will block these countries, so they won't even find my app in their store. So far I know 2 thai people (maybe the same person) and one indian reported my app before. I will lose traffic (they have low ecpm anyway) but its worth it
