5,000 Dollar , but where to start !
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You will need a roadmap to invest this money in the right place.
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Find a regular job with a steady monthly pay to be safe
Running a business of any kind is never without risk.IM is never completely safe, you can literally lose your shit in one week due to all kinds of issues. Google updates, SM updates, people fucking you, having a product that doesn't do well etc etc
Also, you WILL LOSE MONEY in the progress due to doing research, split-testing etc which cost money if you want data.
TBH, I would focus on eCommerce as at the present time people buy more shit online than offline.
m4virus
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can we discuss that on private if you main this blackhat compaign , i have some questions ?
m4virus
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ETF ?
m4virus
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do you have some experience in local e-commerce ? PM plsFind a regular job with a steady monthly pay to be safe
IM is never completely safe, you can literally lose your shit in one week due to all kinds of issues. Google updates, SM updates, people fucking you, having a product that doesn't do well etc etc
Also, you WILL LOSE MONEY in the progress due to doing research, split-testing etc which cost money if you want data.
TBH, I would focus on eCommerce as at the present time people buy more shit online than offline.
m4virus
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good idea
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What about producing a small movie ? like primer(2005)
m4virus
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are you serious lol ?who does that
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TomTheCat
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You forgot about this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal_Activity
m4virus
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True i really forgot , that was a very cheap film
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Glad my reply was helpful that was my intent. Your appreciation reminds me of the older days here on BHW ;-)
I'm in the middle of finishing a video essay series live and ON CAMERA which covers
about 15 years as a global media entrepreneur, in post production now, so contributing
here is an off camera exercise.
I'm very curious to know what part of the world you are from and live in, and what your
'thing' is. No need to reveal it openly if it's private info. This forum remains a very diverse
community and oftentimes these things matter.
Background, motivation, specific work history. Just to have a clear perspective, and to
offer more meaningful advice.
I'll give you an American born perspective. Based on my own background, motivation,
experience & observations.
Previously you've asked for experiences in order to gain awareness on options that you
might have blindness to.
As many have indicated here, 5K is enough for a good start. Much easier to grow 5K
now then when I started. Not sure how fast you want to grow your 5K or to what ROI
you originally intended that 5K to grow with limited risk. I'll frame my insomniac rant into
the rarity of a 7 figure long term event instead of a short term Black Hat operation.
In the USA alone it's been reported that 1 in 20 Americans is a millionaire. A minority
of the US population. Most are self made. Decamillonaires (my personal favorite) are
even a smaller group.
Last time I checked there were over 1,700 US millionaires being created DAILY. Most
people don't know that. Regardless 1,700 daily is a huge number compared to any other
part of the world. Love it or hate it and with all of it's flaws the USA is a great place for creating
wealth, even during a post pandemic economy.
What most Americans don't realize is that it's FAR EASIER to get rich abroad than in their
own country if they have the right remote selling plan, plus they'll probably have more fun too.
Most millionaires are people that you wouldn't recognize, they earn in ways that don't require
limelight, only a combination of smart & often hard work. But not always so hard.
I explained in an earlier reply to you how I cracked my first barely 7 figure payoff. I'll explain
why with my background it wasn't very hard.
To be honest keeping it was harder than making it because making it actually came very
quickly after I did the online grunt work. My first big hit was literally at the time the easiest $
I earned.
It was timing and taking advantage of a situation where a person that I worked with had a
severe knowledge gap about ONLINE SELLING. That's all it was. I was the perfect middleman
in an imperfect world.
Technically I was a glorified super affiliate at the right place at the right time who knew how to
execute online.
Long before seeing that infomercial dude on that yacht with those big bOObied bikini girls.
Long before working ONLINE finding buyers for branded video conferencing systems and finding
that AOL B2B forum, my prior conditioning involved an extreme work ethic.
Most rigid law enforcement types would refer to my actions as part of the underground economy.
They would call it Hard Child Labor.
In fact legally speaking, some of the things that I did with my father before the age of 14 would be
viewed as clearly illegal since it involved undocumented work by a minor. I worked and got paid
before the law in my country deemed it lawful. Some might call that black hat.
Most self made millionaires have Hidden Advantages which they don't openly discuss which
gives them an edge.
Hidden Advantages come in many forms. Could be parental support from an entrepreneurial
family, networks born into or created, opportunities taken advantage of due to information not widely
known, mentors, or even haters. Hate is often a big motivating force in success.
Every time you read a success story, every time you feel inspired by the good or the positive narration
of a big financial home run, be aware that a lot of conditioning lurks in the background that you just
might not see.
If your focus remains strictly locked into the sunny side up aspect of those success stories, absent a
probe into the background or Hidden Advantages, you are setting yourself up to fail because that's
not how peak success works. This is why most entrepreneurs break or fold when confronted with
obstacles and blind spots. Risk overload.
These are the RISK of being financially self sufficient. It's unavoidable.
In a prior note in this thread someone complimented me for being "mentally strong" for getting a
loan for $5,000 from my parents at 14. The truth and the backstory is this...
A part of my father's "side hustle" involved demolition work for facilities which had heaps of scrap metal.
Anyone who knows anything about scrap metal recycling knows that lots of money exist in copper and
lead recycling. In particular STRIPPING the lead and the copper from their construction casing.
When available... since the age of about 10 during weekends and summer vacation my dad would
bring home a loaded 3/4 ton truck full of "scarp metal" for me and my brother to peel.
Salvaged from a job site. For those who don't know, there were basically 2 ways to strip copper wires
from their rubber casings and my 10 year old child labor 'side hustle" involved both of those ways.
1- Burning the rubber to melt down the casings- Horrid Smell
2- Taking a utility knife and slicing the rubber casing down to the clean copper and then
peeling the rubber casing down to the oily wrapping covering the copper. The wrapping
oily and smelled very bad. Labor intensive.
Lead was different, as it required a hammer and a crowbar, meaning hand blisters. All very labor intensive
manual work.
One weekend worth of work stripping copper and lead would net me $500 or more cash after my dad
took his cut and took the scrap metal to the scrap yard and had it weighed.
I was stoked and enjoyed the cash far more than the work. My older brother flaked out after the first
weekend and didn't want any part of that kind of work. No worries, dad wasn't a slave driver, any side
hustle opportunities that he offered were clearly Optional.
But the RUSH of that kind of cash in my hand from the ages of 10 to say 14 gave me a very early
start in earning aspiration and potential.
I think you have to really touch money to want money. Some people get possessed some people
like my brother DON'T!. It has to be in you.
I recall being at a religious event around the age of 8 or 9, all of the kids were put in a line and
asked the same question "what do you want to be when you grow up"? My reply... I want to be a millionaire.
Everyone laughed, not just the kids, I remember it like it was yesterday. Yet by the age of 23 when
I reached that milestone, of all the things to think about, I thought about that laughter on that day. Weird.
So by the time I started tuning into infomercials about the possibility of getting 'rich' with paper, real
estate, or faxes or via any kind of remote monetary projects, making telephone calls or sending emails...
I was all in because NONE of those remote income producing activities offered on the late night tele
were as labor intensive or cruddy as me peeling copper, burning copper and pounding on lead
for cash as a voluntary child laborer. My version of the unlawful child labor lemonade stand. Plus
there were no bikini girls in my backyard side hustle.
That was my personal Conditioning, or one of my Hidden Advantages, the full backstory before I
evolved into remote corp media sales and other more profitable and less labor intensive things.
What's Motivating you beyond $ usually matters
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m4virus
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Glad my reply was helpful that was my intent. Your appreciation reminds me of the older days here on BHW ;-)
I'm in the middle of finishing a video essay series live and ON CAMERA which covers
about 15 years as a global media entrepreneur, in post production now, so contributing
here is an off camera exercise.
I'm very curious to know what part of the world you are from and live in, and what your
'thing' is. No need to reveal it openly if it's private info. This forum remains a very diverse
community and oftentimes these things matter.
Background, motivation, specific work history. Just to have a clear perspective, and to
offer more meaningful advice.
I'll give you an American born perspective. Based on my own background, motivation,
experience & observations.
Previously you've asked for experiences in order to gain awareness on options that you
might have blindness to.
As many have indicated here, 5K is enough for a good start. Much easier to grow 5K
now then when I started. Not sure how fast you want to grow your 5K or to what ROI
you originally intended that 5K to grow with limited risk. I'll frame my insomniac rant into
the rarity of a 7 figure long term event instead of a short term Black Hat operation.
In the USA alone it's been reported that 1 in 20 Americans is a millionaire. A minority
of the US population. Most are self made. Decamillonaires (my personal favorite) are
even a smaller group.
Last time I checked there were over 1,700 US millionaires being created DAILY. Most
people don't know that. Regardless 1,700 daily is a huge number compared to any other
part of the world. Love it or hate it and with all of it's flaws the USA is a great place for creating
wealth, even during a post pandemic economy.
What most Americans don't realize is that it's FAR EASIER to get rich abroad than in their
own country if they have the right remote selling plan, plus they'll probably have more fun too.
Most millionaires are people that you wouldn't recognize, they earn in ways that don't require
limelight, only a combination of smart & often hard work. But not always so hard.
I explained in an earlier reply to you how I cracked my first barely 7 figure payoff. I'll explain
why with my background it wasn't very hard.
To be honest keeping it was harder than making it because making it actually came very
quickly after I did the online grunt work. My first big hit was literally at the time the easiest $
I earned.
It was timing and taking advantage of a situation where a person that I worked with had a
severe knowledge gap about ONLINE SELLING. That's all it was. I was the perfect middleman
in an imperfect world.
Technically I was a glorified super affiliate at the right place at the right time who knew how to
execute online.
Long before seeing that infomercial dude on that yacht with those big bOObied bikini girls.
Long before working ONLINE finding buyers for branded video conferencing systems and finding
that AOL B2B forum, my prior conditioning involved an extreme work ethic.
Most rigid law enforcement types would refer to my actions as part of the underground economy.
They would call it Hard Child Labor.
In fact legally speaking, some of the things that I did with my father before the age of 14 would be
viewed as clearly illegal since it involved undocumented work by a minor. I worked and got paid
before the law in my country deemed it lawful. Some might call that black hat.
Most self made millionaires have Hidden Advantages which they don't openly discuss which
gives them an edge.
Hidden Advantages come in many forms. Could be parental support from an entrepreneurial
family, networks born into or created, opportunities taken advantage of due to information not widely
known, mentors, or even haters. Hate is often a big motivating force in success.
Every time you read a success story, every time you feel inspired by the good or the positive narration
of a big financial home run, be aware that a lot of conditioning lurks in the background that you just
might not see.
If your focus remains strictly locked into the sunny side up aspect of those success stories, absent a
probe into the background or Hidden Advantages, you are setting yourself up to fail because that's
not how peak success works. This is why most entrepreneurs break or fold when confronted with
obstacles and blind spots. Risk overload.
These are the RISK of being financially self sufficient. It's unavoidable.
In a prior note in this thread someone complimented me for being "mentally strong" for getting a
loan for $5,000 from my parents at 14. The truth and the backstory is this...
A part of my father's "side hustle" involved demolition work for facilities which had heaps of scrap metal.
Anyone who knows anything about scrap metal recycling knows that lots of money exist in copper and
lead recycling. In particular STRIPPING the lead and the copper from their construction casing.
When available... since the age of about 10 during weekends and summer vacation my dad would
bring home a loaded 3/4 ton truck full of "scarp metal" for me and my brother to peel.
Salvaged from a job site. For those who don't know, there were basically 2 ways to strip copper wires
from their rubber casings and my 10 year old child labor 'side hustle" involved both of those ways.
1- Burning the rubber to melt down the casings- Horrid Smell
2- Taking a utility knife and slicing the rubber casing down to the clean copper and then
peeling the rubber casing down to the oily wrapping covering the copper. The wrapping
oily and smelled very bad. Labor intensive.
Lead was different, as it required a hammer and a crowbar, meaning hand blisters. All very labor intensive
manual work.
One weekend worth of work stripping copper and lead would net me $500 or more cash after my dad
took his cut and took the scrap metal to the scrap yard and had it weighed.
I was stoked and enjoyed the cash far more than the work. My older brother flaked out after the first
weekend and didn't want any part of that kind of work. No worries, dad wasn't a slave driver, any side
hustle opportunities that he offered were clearly Optional.
But the RUSH of that kind of cash in my hand from the ages of 10 to say 14 gave me a very early
start in earning aspiration and potential.
I think you have to really touch money to want money. Some people get possessed some people
like my brother DON'T!. It has to be in you.
I recall being at a religious event around the age of 8 or 9, all of the kids were put in a line and
asked the same question "what do you want to be when you grow up"? My reply... I want to be a millionaire.
Everyone laughed, not just the kids, I remember it like it was yesterday. Yet by the age of 23 when
I reached that milestone, of all the things to think about, I thought about that laughter on that day. Weird.
So by the time I started tuning into infomercials about the possibility of getting 'rich' with paper, real
estate, or faxes or via any kind of remote monetary projects, making telephone calls or sending emails...
I was all in because NONE of those remote income producing activities offered on the late night tele
were as labor intensive or cruddy as me peeling copper, burning copper and pounding on lead
for cash as a voluntary child laborer. My version of the unlawful child labor lemonade stand. Plus
there were no bikini girls in my backyard side hustle.
That was my personal Conditioning, or one of my Hidden Advantages, the full backstory before I
evolved into remote corp media sales and other more profitable and less labor intensive things.
What's Motivating you beyond $ usually matters
I really really enjoy how you writing your replies ( you must write a book ) :-D .
experience of years in a tight article , so as begin i can only tell you that I'm from Africa , and things are so difficult in my country , as an American civilian you can reach to many sources and be in touch with to much people surrounding you , if not a direct contact , you will be hearing stories , what happen here in my side is different , nobody guide you or share their mistakes to avoid them , you will face to many changes and to many obstacle , plus the success and positive people who's trying to reach a goal facing to much hate and breaking attempts , duo to many factors ( Colonialism, plundering wealth, backwardness of the colonial peoples ) so they can always be controllable ... this is the short version of my point of view .
you doing good brother , keep it up
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I have a current very well funded med tech client project under construction with a world
class Doctor, a Parasitologist by trade, he has become a very close friend. He spends
most of his time talking about your continent and the Decade + years that he's lived there in several
countries. I don't know anyone who has better stories about life in Africa other than him. ;-)
Wears nothing but those colorful African shirts, and his shirt collection is from EVERYWHERE
in Africa. He puts my small Aloha shirt collection to shame. ;-)
Fantastic guy, old enough to remember when
Irish like him were discriminated against in the USA. Graduated Johns Hopkins and began his
career in Public Health. He's a democrat I'm not we argue mildly over politics, but it's just
fun.
His ancestors fled the Irish Potato Famine, and that's how he ended up born in Ohio.
My client was among the first Peace Corps leaders sent to Ghana by JFK, in fact he shook
the hand of JFK & his brother before his first tour. I enjoy his company because talking to
him is better than reading ANY edited or propagandized history book.
He's like a grandfather figure to me and his mind is razor sharp. I know people half his age
who can't keep up with him mentally.
Your point of view regarding your unique set of obstacles are ALL topics that my friend and
I have discussed over wine. So I might understand your condition better than most
outsiders who may hold a limited, or inaccurate view of your continent at large and the
people.
Which leads me to this M4Virus.
You have HUGE motivating FORCES fueling your
path towards financial autonomy. That's half the battle.
The fact that you've reached your level of passive income (presumably online)
under your conditions is admirable.
At least based on the limited amount of info you've shared here about yourself
and your background.
It's a testament to your resolve and I do trust that you will make decisions which
further enrich your life and well being. As I wrote in a prior note, if you're smart
your physical location is a trivial matter. I think you're smart.
I look forward to telling my friend that you and I cyber met when I speak to him this week
to wish him a Happy New Year!
Best wishes to you for the new year and beyond
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ulus23
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Index fund. VONG, VGT, VOO etc. For managed ARKK has been doing pretty well. BTC, ETH fluctuates wildly so I don't like it as much. IDK your risk tolerance.
Or if you're in a country with a lot of affordable real estate, pick up a duplex or triplex and live there while renting. Then use that as collateral.
Don't give anyone on the internet money for investments. Most of that stuff is pyramid schemes/MLM. There was a large one here a few years ago (one of the places I heard about the site).
Or if you're in a country with a lot of affordable real estate, pick up a duplex or triplex and live there while renting. Then use that as collateral.
Don't give anyone on the internet money for investments. Most of that stuff is pyramid schemes/MLM. There was a large one here a few years ago (one of the places I heard about the site).
msyaz
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Doesn't look like hes giving away money to the needy. Looks like hes giving money for "something" in return.
Give your money to the needy .
Md Masudul Hasan
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Try with Cryptocurrency invest or bitcoin mining.
m4virus
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I have a current very well funded med tech client project under construction with a world
class Doctor, a Parasitologist by trade, he has become a very close friend. He spends
most of his time talking about your continent and the Decade + years that he's lived there in several
countries. I don't know anyone who has better stories about life in Africa other than him. ;-)
Wears nothing but those colorful African shirts, and his shirt collection is from EVERYWHERE
in Africa. He puts my small Aloha shirt collection to shame. ;-)
Fantastic guy, old enough to remember when
Irish like him were discriminated against in the USA. Graduated Johns Hopkins and began his
career in Public Health. He's a democrat I'm not we argue mildly over politics, but it's just
fun.
His ancestors fled the Irish Potato Famine, and that's how he ended up born in Ohio.
My client was among the first Peace Corps leaders sent to Ghana by JFK, in fact he shook
the hand of JFK & his brother before his first tour. I enjoy his company because talking to
him is better than reading ANY edited or propagandized history book.
He's like a grandfather figure to me and his mind is razor sharp. I know people half his age
who can't keep up with him mentally.
Your point of view regarding your unique set of obstacles are ALL topics that my friend and
I have discussed over wine. So I might understand your condition better than most
outsiders who may hold a limited, or inaccurate view of your continent at large and the
people.
Which leads me to this M4Virus.
You have HUGE motivating FORCES fueling your
path towards financial autonomy. That's half the battle.
The fact that you've reached your level of passive income (presumably online)
under your conditions is admirable.
At least based on the limited amount of info you've shared here about yourself
and your background.
It's a testament to your resolve and I do trust that you will make decisions which
further enrich your life and well being. As I wrote in a prior note, if you're smart
your physical location is a trivial matter. I think you're smart.
I look forward to telling my friend that you and I cyber met when I speak to him this week
to wish him a Happy New Year!
Best wishes to you for the new year and beyond
People like you make life colorful , and full of ambitions and motivations , i appreciate your time ,i hope one day we can meet face to face .
be safe , keep hustling, i wish you a year full of joy and happiness .
m4virus
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I'm thinking to start a real estate business , if you have some experience to share , can you pm me .
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