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speedyallan77 said:
but usually placing competitors urls becomes an issue when they are doing blackhat. if not they won't be in trouble.

im only not placing mine since i dont want yt to someday know that I'm a member of some blackhat forums.


imagine u become some famous guy like a music artist. then people start digging for your roots.

then some people find that u r a member of bhw especially a place that has smms that can sell you artifical views.

that will lead to controversy and people saying that "your growth to fame wasn't organic you were botting etc"

look at how triggered American kids all say that t series is botting when they fail to realize Indians population and a sudden revolution in india with internet access to even the poor.
this caused a massive spike.
despite no evidence people still claim they bot.
but pewdiepie nah and other they will never say they bot even if they did.
they are only triggered coz they don't like Indians and that Indian channel has beaten all channels.

this is just an example, i dont want my big channels to be associated with me being in some blackhat forum especially when people start digging my roots.
i dont want to be part of that controversy
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Lets be real here both pewdiepie and tseries bot.
 
speedyallan77 said:
i dont want my big channels to be associated with me being in some blackhat forum especially when people start digging my roots.
i dont want to be part of that controversy
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So you think it's OK then to post others' URL on a black hat forum?
 
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bartosimpsonio said:
So you think it's OK then to post others' URL on a black hat forum?
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you don't seem to understand.

1. that channel is not blackhat, maybe they are but the content they do is not in violation of youtube community guidelines , and there is no risk of them getting into any trouble like a ban by placing a link here.

2. placing the link here is merely about the channel and does not show if the channel owner is here on a forum like blackhatworld.

3. if i place my link here, 2 things happen
first people know I'm in bhw, no 2 they will know that the channel owner is here on bhw and start linking me to botting and other smm methods.

4. does it reveal that the channel owner is here on bhw simply by placing the link?
no

is the channel doing something fishy to get them banned by placing a link?

no

5. are you telling me there is some issue with discussing about some random channel on bhw by placing the link, especially those doing Whitehat content?

ofcourse not


i gues you need to try and understand what im trying to say xD
 
speedyallan77 said:
you don't seem to understand.

1. that channel is not blackhat, maybe they are but the content they do is not in violation of youtube community guidelines , and there is no risk of them getting into any trouble like a ban by placing a link here.

2. placing the link here is merely about the channel and does not show if the channel owner is here on a forum like blackhatworld.

3. if i place my link here, 2 things happen
first people know I'm in bhw, no 2 they will know that the channel owner is here on bhw and start linking me to botting and other smm methods.

4. does it reveal that the channel owner is here on bhw simply by placing the link?
no

is the channel doing something fishy to get them banned by placing a link?

no

5. are you telling me there is some issue with discussing about some random channel on bhw by placing the link, especially those doing Whitehat content?

ofcourse not


i gues you need to try and understand what im trying to say xD
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I'm with @bartosimpsonio here.

1. Are you sure about that? Even the whitest whitehat channels can get wrecked.

2. So? Anyone, me included, can jump in and mass-report this dude until he gets wrecked. Whitehat or not. (Not that I would do that)

3. That can happen to the channel you shared here too, doesn't matter if he's on BHW or not.

4. No? That does not have anything to do with it.

5. Of course yes. Depends on the channel of course, if you share pewdiepie it's a different story.


There's multiple ways to destroy any channel, or money site, even if they're whitehat.

Oh well...
 
Stackz said:
I'm with @bartosimpsonio here.

1. Are you sure about that? Even the whitest whitehat channels can get wrecked.

2. So? Anyone, me included, can jump in and mass-report this dude until he gets wrecked. Whitehat or not. (Not that I would do that)

3. That can happen to the channel you shared here too, doesn't matter if he's on BHW or not.

4. No? That does not have anything to do with it.

5. Of course yes. Depends on the channel of course, if you share pewdiepie it's a different story.


There's multiple ways to destroy any channel, or money site, even if they're whitehat.

Oh well...
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1. yes I'm sure whitehat channels cannot simply get wrecked.

lol I think you don't know how yt works.
yt is not IG

Mass reporting a channel that does not violate anything cannot get it banned. lmao.

once u mass report, the channel will get reviewed. if the channel does not violate community guidelines no action will be taken.
if it does, action will be taken.

1 million reports will do nothing if the channel does not violate anything.

this channel does not violate anything.
good luck lmao
 
Divxup said:
had few views and subscribers, what the hell happened? !!!
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Mentos experiments have always been popular and anything that's popular works well when you niche it down, which is what these guys did.
The videos are actually pretty good and possess a lot of viral qualities so they definitely grew through social media sharing. No wonder it blew up after they posted 85 videos over 10 months time.
I'd hardly call this algo luck. They knew exactly what they were doing and if they kept doing it, one would eventually go viral and get the ball rolling.
 
speedyallan77 said:
1. yes I'm sure whitehat channels cannot simply get wrecked.

lol I think you don't know how yt works.
yt is not IG

Mass reporting a channel that does not violate anything cannot get it banned. lmao.

once u mass report, the channel will get reviewed. if the channel does not violate community guidelines no action will be taken.
if it does, action will be taken.

1 million reports will do nothing if the channel does not violate anything.

this channel does not violate anything.
good luck lmao
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Yeah, because everything YouTube does is manual, totally not algos f-ing up even whitehat channels. Don't think you know how YouTube works. :D And how are you so sure he's not BH/violating guidelines? Even the biggest channels get wrongful claims and so on.

Reverse engineer what your competitor is doing and make some actual money, instead of asking people here how he is ranking and sharing his channel. Clearly you don't know YouTube at all either, if you have to ask here - "lolmao".

Xoxo, gossip girl
 
Divxup said:
i seen this channel like 7 months ago, https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdbCKekm6uXlWNBhr6tKwdQ/videos

had few views and subscribers, what the hell happened? !!!

also following this channel https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCmBb8IYGWxL-DmWD7L8bCzw/videos
pretty same content but not a lot of views,

it has to be some secret here, don't tell me im wrong?
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There's no BH methods used to these type of channels. Simple facts followed.

1. They buy community posts from other reputed channels and also they publish their video posts on the other channels of owned by them.
2. They created highly attracted colorful thumbnails to increase the CTR ( main purpose is Improving view velocity by increasing CTR)
YT AI read thumbnails.
3. As a result of that view velocity + high ctr videos start to suggest on all the related channels.
4. It gives huge boost to the whole channel. People have curiosity.

always have a mind to see what's going inside of this. you just click this spoiler to see what's inside of this because you don't know what's inside
. they used that trick.
 
Stackz said:
Yeah, because everything YouTube does is manual, totally not algos f-ing up even whitehat channels. Don't think you know how YouTube works. :D And how are you so sure he's not BH/violating guidelines? Even the biggest channels get wrongful claims and so on.

Reverse engineer what your competitor is doing and make some actual money, instead of asking people here how he is ranking and sharing his channel. Clearly you don't know YouTube at all either, if you have to ask here - "lolmao".

Xoxo, gossip girl
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wrongful claims are different from the reporting related issues.
a large number of users reporting a channel only moves the video up the queue of other channels waiting to be reviewed.
after the reviewer checks and the video content does not violate community guidelines, nothing happens.
the systems work like this now becoz competitors in the past used to mass report and get channels removed.
yes back in 2012,2013 u could do this.
not anymore.

this is not how yt works in 2020.
yes if u do some blackhat like hack game niche, the reviewers will instantly apply a strike to your channel.

false copyright strikes and claims are still possible.
mass false reporting no longer works unless you really violate something. u can ask any expert here in the yt Section of bhw.
they will answer your question.

"Reverse engineer what your competitor is doing and make some actual money, instead of asking people here how he is ranking and sharing his channel "

kid i already make plenty of money on yt hence i come here on this forum to help the community with guides and post replies and methods for yt.

where did i ask here how does he do it lmao?
i already know what he does.

i already have a channel in the same niche doing it fully organically bringing 50M views a month.
you don't need any blackhat for this. you can get organic blow ups.

"Clearly you don't know YouTube at all either, if you have to ask here - "lolmao"."

i know pretty well about YouTube and I'm sure better than you as you don't seem to understand basics.
if there is something in yt i dont know about i wont talk about it.
i talk on this forum what i know about.

u claimed that i cant know he does blackhat. tell me what blackhat is he doing. lol
his content is white hat. not even blackhat niche.

if it's views you are talking about blackhat , anyone can buy views.yt does not terminate a channel for buying fake views aswell unless they have evidence that the owner is buying views.
or like if the smm reveals that they buy views etc.


but it in this niche and all clickbaity niches u don't need to buy views. you can get organic blow up from algorithm over time
 
speedyallan77 said:
you don't seem to understand.

1. that channel is not blackhat, maybe they are but the content they do is not in violation of youtube community guidelines , and there is no risk of them getting into any trouble like a ban by placing a link here.

2. placing the link here is merely about the channel and does not show if the channel owner is here on a forum like blackhatworld.

3. if i place my link here, 2 things happen
first people know I'm in bhw, no 2 they will know that the channel owner is here on bhw and start linking me to botting and other smm methods.

4. does it reveal that the channel owner is here on bhw simply by placing the link?
no

is the channel doing something fishy to get them banned by placing a link?

no

5. are you telling me there is some issue with discussing about some random channel on bhw by placing the link, especially those doing Whitehat content?

ofcourse not


i gues you need to try and understand what im trying to say xD
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I'm trying to show you how you're absolutely wrong.

No it's not OK to out anyone's URLs. You won't show yours and you're ok with exposing others. It's wrong.
 
bartosimpsonio said:
I'm trying to show you how you're absolutely wrong.

No it's not OK to out anyone's URLs. You won't show yours and you're ok with exposing others. It's wrong.
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my question Is simple.
what would happen if i placed someone's url as an example. tell me that first?

xD
 
speedyallan77 said:
here's one of mine.im just curious.
now what will happened lol?
will i get banned?

https://youtube.com/user/RedLightPledge
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iu


Let me guess, it's not actually yours is it?
 
speedyallan77 said:
come on bro mass flagging can terminate me.

come on terminate it. what are you waiting for
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Yeah, I'm going to spend my precious time reporting people/channels that I don't even know if you're the owner of. /s
I could technically buy the cheapest shit SMM views and tank your shit, but it's not yours anyway, is it? Nice try.

Even if you actually are the owner, I'm not the type to do Neg-SEO type of stuff, I rank over them instead.

I'm actually making money with IM/SEO, you should try the same.

Git gud mate.


Xoxo/ Gossip girl
 
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Why does threads allways end up like this? Came here to read about methods and in the end im reading two member arguments towards each other.

Just stick to the topic. It's interesting discussing methods about a channel that has done well.
 
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