Getting sue

[Dawskie]

Hello bhw,

I have question running in my mind.

Im planning to make movie-site, like listing a movie then putting a link to redirect the user to another movie site (3rd party site) e.g wootly.ch

It is still possible to get sued by doing it?

looking forward for your answer.

 

[McGrady]

Depends on where you live. You should definetly read the laws. they're somewhere.

I've tought about that :

"If i'm linking to another website that is actually hosting the movies, am I breaking the law?"

I don't have the answer but you should look it, and be careful.

 

[Xamfonos]

I think you should simply write to them and request their permission to use their contents as API. It might even get them some backlinks and PR, and they could also charge for the services while you have contents for your site. Anyways, it's a win win for both of you.

Talk to them.

 

[Dawskie]

Depends on where you live. You should definetly read the laws. they're somewhere.

I've tought about that :

"If i'm linking to another website that is actually hosting the movies, am I breaking the law?"

I don't have the answer but you should look it, and be careful.

I lived in US.

I think you should simply write to them and request their permission to use their contents as API. It might even get them some backlinks and PR, and they could also charge for the services while you have contents for your site. Anyways, it's a win win for both of you.

Talk to them.

This is the site im trying to copy

Levidia.ch

And, its deep-linking. I think its still liable in US for that kind of site since its linking to a 3rd party illegal site.. I still need to make sure

 

[RoyalCobra777]

Yep, you can be sued for basically everything. The better question is: Will you get sued?

 

[Toz]

I think you should simply write to them and request their permission to use their contents as API. It might even get them some backlinks and PR, and they could also charge for the services while you have contents for your site. Anyways, it's a win win for both of you.

Talk to them.

I think this COULD BE solid advice, IF you elaborate on who {"them"} would be.
For example, if it's a legitimate (I make no assumptions) 3rd party website who has the permissions of the actual content owners to host their content, and he's asking them (the 3rd party website), then that's one thing.
However, if it's not a legitimate (again, no assumptions) 3rd party website who fails to have the permissions of the actual content owners to host their content, and he's asking them (the 3rd party website), then that's something else.
And if he's referring to "them" as being the actual content owners if he can link to a 3rd party website (either with or without said 3rd party website having express permission from the content provider), then these can be quite different scenarios, as well (one advised and one maybe not).

I preface all that with I think, because I honestly don't know and would hate to give you a wrong answer on this one. As boring and not cool as this advice may sound, I'd say your best bet would be asking an attorney. You may be able to find one for relatively cheap, online (do your due diligence, of course), but just know that each content provider may have their own forms of ToS, so I don't know if the attorney would want a separate "ticket" for each instance, or if you can group all the content providers you plan to use, and lump them all into one single request. I don't know. But, I think to CYA (Cover Your A.....) and if it's going to be a website you're going to care about and want to maybe some day build into something greater, then starting with your best foot forward would probably be a solid approach.

Heck, if you play your cards right, the content owners may in the future let you host their movies, yourself. Of course, assuming you're website is successful by then, then surely you'd have the budget for it. You may then even check out some great hosting solutions.

I hope this helps. Good luck & May 4th.

 

[uncutu]

if you're worried about it, don't bother
youll likely just get dmca notices
worst case you end up on front page on torrentfreak.com
plenty of niches out there where you dont have to worry about mega corps sending you a certified letter in the mail saying cya in court bozo.

 

[Dawskie]

if you're worried about it, don't bother
youll likely just get dmca notices
worst case you end up on front page on torrentfreak.com
plenty of niches out there where you dont have to worry about mega corps sending you a certified letter in the mail saying cya in court bozo.

Im in US. Im worried cos im here unlike others are in 3rd world...

 

[dalama]

Based on your title I thought you were looking for advice on how to get Sue, a friendly local yoga class girl who has a geeky side

 

[leechesBleechin]

Im in US. Im worried cos im here unlike others are in 3rd world...

If you make any mistakes your fucked.

 

[kccan1013]

@Dawksie As we are both in the US, and the law is very clear here, motion pictures are copyrighted and owned by the movie studios that produce them.
They will seek you out the best they can, and in the US, Hollywood has billions of dollars, law firms with huge retainers and this is all they do look for ppl who are infringing on their copyrights, but wait they won't find me. Ugh yes they will, its Hollywood, movie studios, Disney, Apple have departments dedicated to hunting down and taking legal action against those whom infringe on their legal property. Find something else to do, steer clear of that. You seem creative find a way to do something else to make $$$. Unless you make millions and can spend $$ on a big ass law firm, steer clear from that. Copyright and case law lay a clear foundation for their rights. Which they will defend to the maximum if you do not cease and desist. Better ways to make a living then have lawyers and lawsuits in your future.
Good luck on your journey.

 

[Kamaitachi96]

Yep, you can be sued for basically everything. The better question is: Will you get sued?

It does honestly feel like its your luck of the draw sometimes. I've had friends sent cease and desist letters for using individual WORDS that companies have attempted to trademark. Normal, everyday words, too.

OP: Please be extra careful when handling media of any kind. I'm not going to give you a speech about artists being rightfully paid for their work (because they make millions), but I would like to highlight that Disney alone hires more lawyers than they do animators.

 

[Moneo]

you can try to talk people who do this.

 

[CyberHour]

Hello bhw,

I have question running in my mind.

Im planning to make movie-site, like listing a movie then putting a link to redirect the user to another movie site (3rd party site) e.g wootly.ch

It is still possible to get sued by doing it?

looking forward for your answer.

Technically.. of course you get sued... the question is...does your country copyright laws consider embeding/link sharing as copyright infringement? USA? No fcking way..

Judging from your question..I don't think that you have the technical knowledge (staying anonymous online does need some good technical knowledge is not walk in the park)

But here what most are doing..
- Always use VPS.. multi-vpn is ideal
- Always use crypto for payments (monero/zcash/beam... bitcoin if goingfor single transaction per address)
- Get offshore hosting in a country which allows embeded content... if for any reason they ask you to take down a single movie .. just do it..
- Payments from ads .. only in crypto.. use NO KYC exchange to swap them to privacy coin and move them away .
9 out of 10 .. complainers or the so called right holders are contacting the hosting providers directly with takedown request.

Finally.. Cloudflare does NOT protect your ID/IPs whatsoever , they will spit everything with the first fake complain.. unless you are not in their premium list (you know what I mean).


/cheers

 

[CyberHour]

If you make any mistakes your fucked.

True

 

[uncutu]

hmmm is this illegal niche going to get me in legal trouble? what are you really asking? if you spent a minute researching this you'll know big sites get shut down and taken to court, webmasters are extradited, fined, and sent to prison for it.

even with bulletproof hosting & registrar, i think it would be real easy to get caught.
the weakest link is your affiliate network
3-4 letter agency just emails them saying "who is affiliate #123456"
they'll flip on you in a second. they are an easy fish to fry unlike an offshore server who toss out dmca requests daily.

on one hand you'll be a small fish in a big pond of thousands of webmasters who are doing movie mirror websites. the penalty is usually termination. if you monitor players in this niche, you'll see most of them don't last longer than the 1 year lease on their domain.

most of us agree youre not really doing anything illegal. youre just linking to someone who is hosting the content. not hosting it yourself. but do you have the funds to pay a lawyer to argue that for you in the off-chance you do get sniped by some billion dollar agency lawyer

 

[Chipicao]

Im curious what if you make link generator (something like sites that generate news) taking movies from other sites in iframe and publish on your page, so your website can work like search engine for movies, website will work fully automatic. How they can sue you when google is doing the same thing

 

[alonelywriter]

I lived in US.

Yes you will get sued.

 

[Dawskie]

I appreciate your reply guys. It's hard to start in this niche, too huge risk

 

[Deleted member 658642]

Based on your title I thought you were looking for advice on how to get Sue, a friendly local yoga class girl who has a geeky side

Incorrect. A Sue is a geeky girl with a wild side, not the other way around.