Need Some Help Regarding My Email Marketing Journey

[MasterYocheese]

Good evening ladies and gents

I've been here around for while now, with a pen and a paper, gathering every bit of important information that may be useful for me to create a broad picture of the opportunities available to make money online, as well as its risks, of course
So finally I've decided to dive into email marketing, and focus solely on it, since it seems to be a solid mean to acquire filtered and opted-in potential customers (and to fix the bigger problem I had with IM, finding the right bulk of people to sell to duh..)
Well, My plan's ready, and I'm basically goin to [REDACTED], [...]
After I build my "machine", get people to subscribe to my email list and finally get my hands on my beautifully created list, the first thing's gonna happen is for them to receive like a "confirmation" email, just so I can create this nice first connection with them before I [REDACTED] the sh*t out of them (joking)
So here's the issue, I need an "Autoresponder"
I've checked a few over the internet, and mailchimp seem to be a viable option (since it also has some good features and the price is very reasonable for me)
Now what I don't understand is, it sais (and every other autoresponder) that a price plan covers up to 50.000 emails, which is what I believe I'll need (and I suppose they mean per month?) and 500 contacts (???)
What the hell is a contact?

Edit:
I now see that "contact" means "subscriber", so basically the way we capture people's emails and mailchimp provides 500 contacts
Basically, [Traffic] -> [Website] -> [Email Capturing / Subscribing] -> [AutoResponding] , and mailchimp does the last two
So my new question is, any ideas on how I can "capture" subscribers as cheap as possible, and make it work with mailchimp? So in the end I can autoresponder them as soon as they subscribe. I heard about Contact Form 7 for wordpress, but not sure how it works yet.

Just need your opinion
Thanks!

 

[thelaptopbucks]

Regarding landing page for grabbing leads. I suggest you find a cheap landing page builder (profit builder or free elementor) that can be used in wordpress. You can use cheap hosting for wordpress from namecheap or hostmaria

Regarding traffic....it depends if you want to send free or paid traffic to your landing page but i guess paid works for fast results and you can use facebook ads and google ads depending on your budget

 

[GringoMonkey]

A contact is a subscriber.

With mailchimp free version you can have upto 2000 contacts for free.

You can also create an automated welcome email with the free version.

To do that you just need mailchimp and your website landing page.

 

[MasterYocheese]

Thanks for your response. I've checked mailchimp and looked around the price plans, and I found this under the plans: "Plan pricing starts at up to 500 contacts. Select your list size to calculate your price. The monthly email send limit is 10 times your maximum contact count. " Does this mean you get only 500 subs and can send maximum emails up to 5000? That sucks if that's the case. Do you have any other recommendations if that's what it means?

 

[security]

I personally wouldn't use services. Especially since your just starting out. I would get a dedi/VPS with enough resources to run the software you need to start. Then just scale up as need be.

 

[MasterYocheese]

I personally wouldn't use services. Especially since your just starting out. I would get a dedi/VPS with enough resources to run the software you need to start. Then just scale up as need be.

Interesting..
Even tho dedicated server or vps seems hella expensive... You've got anything as recommendation? Something that may be cheap, simple and/or work with wordpress?
I've recently found out about mailmunch tho, seems like they've got unlimited contracts and its very cheap

 

[security]

Interesting..
Even tho dedicated server or vps seems hella expensive... You've got anything as recommendation? Something that may be cheap, simple and/or work with wordpress?
I've recently found out about mailmunch tho, seems like they've got unlimited contracts and its very cheap

Not sure what you consider expensive. You can get a decent VPS for like $50.00 a month from Azure.. i think they even give like a 30 day trial or a $200.00 credit limit for signing up. I couldn't really tell you about mailers that work using wordpress. Im sure there are some nice ones out there but im more of a desktop mailer type of person.

 

[dimitrivisser]

Not sure what you consider expensive. You can get a decent VPS for like $50.00 a month from Azure.. i think they even give like a 30 day trial or a $200.00 credit limit for signing up. I couldn't really tell you about mailers that work using wordpress. Im sure there are some nice ones out there but im more of a desktop mailer type of person.

$50 a month? A simple $5 VPS from Vultr with Mautic in combination with Amazon SES ($1 for 10k emails) or a Mailgun account (first 30k emails for free) will do.

Self hosted Mautic is free and you can have as many contacts as you want.

For 50k emails a month, less than 1700 a day every VPS is ok.

 

[security]

$50 a month? A simple $5 VPS from Vultr with Mautic in combination with Amazon SES ($1 for 10k emails) or a Mailgun account (first 30k emails for free) will do.

Self hosted Mautic is free and you can have as many contacts as you want.

For 50k emails a month, less than 1700 a day every VPS is ok.

I'm talking about mailing off of windows.

I doubt your going to be able to run anything on a $5.00 VPS. For $50.00 a month with azure you only get 1 cpu + 4 gigs of ram. For me thats barely enough. If you plan on running a few apps your going to need at least 4 gigs of ram.

 

[dimitrivisser]

I'm talking about mailing off of windows.

I doubt your going to be able to run anything on a $5.00 VPS. For $50.00 a month with azure you only get 1 cpu + 4 gigs of ram. For me thats barely enough. If you plan on running a few apps your going to need at least 4 gigs of ram.

And I am talking about marketing software on Linux. A $5 VPS is enough to run software like Mautic or Mailwizz. It is good enough for about 1000 emails an hour if you let Amazon or Mailgun do the actual delivery.

Who needs Windows? And Azure is expensive, there are other companies who will give you a complete server for $35.

 

[MasterYocheese]

I'm talking about mailing off of windows.

I doubt your going to be able to run anything on a $5.00 VPS. For $50.00 a month with azure you only get 1 cpu + 4 gigs of ram. For me thats barely enough. If you plan on running a few apps your going to need at least 4 gigs of ram.

I really believe that as a starter, for creating a simple email opt-in website, it is indeed extremely expensive. I can just get a hosting service and use mailmunch with wordpress with unlimited contracts and stuff for an overall cost of 30 euros the first month and then 10 euros for every next month for the hosting.

 

[dimitrivisser]

mailmunch

Probably you should just start and learn. Not all advice you get here is very useful. If you want to make an opt-in page on a Wordpress website you cannot use a Windows computer for mailing.

Mailmuch looks nice and cheap, but they are very vague about things like the maximum number of subscribers and the maximum number of emails you can send. Vague = they do not mention it at all.

When using something you will maybe run into problems, but it will also learn you to make a better decision.

 

[MasterYocheese]

Probably you should just start and learn. Not all advice you get here is very useful. If you want to make an opt-in page on a Wordpress website you cannot use a Windows computer for mailing.

Mailmuch looks nice and cheap, but they are very vague about things like the maximum number of subscribers and the maximum number of emails you can send. Vague = they do not mention it at all.

When using something you will maybe run into problems, but it will also learn you to make a better decision.

I've talked with mailmunch support, wanted to ask them about specifics. They seem to have unlimited subscribers, and I've seen good reviews and tutorials about their autoresponder as well.
What confuses me is that no one here seems to had any experience with it.
I believe that I have settled and decided to go with it for the email optins and autoresponder (gonna try it at least and see how it goes)
Now before I start I need to figure out a survey forms plugin that is good and free for wordpress

 

[security]

I really believe that as a starter, for creating a simple email opt-in website, it is indeed extremely expensive. I can just get a hosting service and use mailmunch with wordpress with unlimited contracts and stuff for an overall cost of 30 euros the first month and then 10 euros for every next month for the hosting.

I hear what your saying. what i said is just how i would go about it. It seems like your pretty new to this so you will hear a lot of methods, some a lot different than others. You can use entire methods you hear or you can pick and choose the best parts and how they apply to you.

I happen to mail b2b and build my lists by scraping. I also like to try to make money while I'm building my lists so i normally have to get out more than a little a day, while scrapping for more as the mail goes out.

One other thing. I like to keep my mailers and hosting separate. When mailing raw list you always have the chance that hosting or mailing server gets shut down. This is why i like to get them separate.

 

[dimitrivisser]

I've talked with mailmunch support, wanted to ask them about specifics. They seem to have unlimited subscribers, and I've seen good reviews and tutorials about their autoresponder as well.
What confuses me is that no one here seems to had any experience with it.
I believe that I have settled and decided to go with it for the email optins and autoresponder (gonna try it at least and see how it goes)
Now before I start I need to figure out a survey forms plugin that is good and free for wordpress

Their cheapest plan is $6.99 a month. You cannot really offer unlimited subscribers + unlimited emails for that. That only works till people start to use it to the max.

And the plugin should communicate with Munich ;-)

 

[security]

If you want to make an opt-in page on a Wordpress website you cannot use a Windows computer for mailing

This statement is 10,000% wrong. I will just leave it at that.

 

[MasterYocheese]

I hear what your saying. what i said is just how i would go about it. It seems like your pretty new to this so you will hear a lot of methods, some a lot different than others. You can use entire methods you hear or you can pick and choose the best parts and how they apply to you.

I happen to mail b2b and build my lists by scraping. I also like to try to make money while I'm building my lists so i normally have to get out more than a little a day, while scrapping for more as the mail goes out.

One other thing. I like to keep my mailers and hosting separate. When mailing raw list you always have the chance that hosting or mailing server gets shut down. This is why i like to get them separate.

Heyy interesting. Thank you for the heads up!
I am indeed new to this, been doin research for a while now in here, and I believe its time for some action.

 

[MasterYocheese]

Their cheapest plan is $6.99 a month. You cannot really offer unlimited subscribers + unlimited emails for that. That only works till people start to use it to the max.

And the plugin should communicate with Munich ;-)

It does seems fishy.. but at that price, I bekieve its worth a try at least, since no one here seems to had any experience with it.
Even tho I dont see any other inexpensive alternatives (also other services such as mailchimp Ive got my reasons written in the beginning)

 

[stepdub]

Thanks for your response. I've checked mailchimp and looked around the price plans, and I found this under the plans: "Plan pricing starts at up to 500 contacts. Select your list size to calculate your price. The monthly email send limit is 10 times your maximum contact count. " Does this mean you get only 500 subs and can send maximum emails up to 5000? That sucks if that's the case. Do you have any other recommendations if that's what it means?

Try Substack.

 

[dimitrivisser]

This statement is 10,000% wrong. I will just leave it at that.

Nooooo ;-)

We are here to learn.

Imagine a Wordpress website with an opt-in form. That form has to communicate with marketing software to pass on the email address of the new subscriber. The marketing software will use Amazon SES or Mailgun to send the emails.

On Linux I would install ISPconfig as webadmin software + marketing software like Mautic or Mailwizz. The VPS would be $5 a month. ISPconfig is free, Mautic is free, Mailwiz depends on if you are willing to use a copy or want an official version.

How would you do that on Windows? I know of software used for sending mailings from a Windows desktop. But the software I know would not be able to automatically receive the email addresses of new subscribers from a Wordpress website.