My Biggest Journal Yet: Going 10x on SEO

[praetserge]

Trialing a $0.08/word writer to see if there's any difference at all. Watch my complete lack of surprise when they still ignore the brief and write the wrong thing.

A few years back I had a writer from here for $0.08 per word. Expensive but his writing was awesome and he knew my topic.
I don't remember his user name but I remember he was Australian.

 

[SEOMadHatter]

How will you monetize the sites?

Covered in the OP site 1 is a rev-share CPA one of the leads last week netted around $45 I haven't checked the other yet.

Site 2 is a bog-standard digital affiliate product. I've had both paid and free traffic in the niche before and iirc the average sale should net me around $60.

A few years back I had a writer from here for $0.08 per word. Expensive but his writing was awesome and he knew my topic.
I don't remember his user name but I remember he was Australian.

I'm going back and forth over the 0.08/word rate.

As a completely arbitrary number, I'd been thinking 100k words and $2k in links to test a niche. At the 0.03/rate I'm out around $5k if a site flops. Maybe $6k if I outsource a bunch of the social stuff as well but that brings better diversity with it.

At 0.08 I'm over $10k a site which I'd like to be more comfortable with but it's more than I've ever put into a single site before. On the flip side editing crappy content is a huge time sink at the moment which I could be spending on other projects.

I'll see how it goes when this content is turned in. I might have a look around the 0.06 mark as well.

 

[praetserge]

I'm going back and forth over the 0.08/word rate.

As a completely arbitrary number, I'd been thinking 100k words and $2k in links to test a niche. At the 0.03/rate I'm out around $5k if a site flops. Maybe $6k if I outsource a bunch of the social stuff as well but that brings better diversity with it.

At 0.08 I'm over $10k a site which I'd like to be more comfortable with but it's more than I've ever put into a single site before. On the flip side editing crappy content is a huge time sink at the moment which I could be spending on other projects.

I'll see how it goes when this content is turned in. I might have a look around the 0.06 mark as well.

I totally agree that the rate is arbitrary.
It's all about the writing style and understanding the topic. Back then I ordered a lot of content from my writer and he was just shitting out the content for fun as I liked his writing style and he knew the topic (for $0.02. then I had to find somebody here for $0.08).
Most of the writers are "rubbish" sorry but it's true, they cut the corners and try to deliver as much content as possible.
Just put yourself in their shoes... to write the content similar to FT is very expensive and requires lots of research... but for the Sun... I can write myself.
I'll soon run out of content which I still have and I'm yet to find a decent writer who could come even close... can't afford to pay $0.08 per word as I need like 1 mil words of content extra.
And I need in-deapth content... not just content.

 

[carchek]

Are you scaling with a single site or a network?

Single site. I just hired a Philipinese guy to write for me. The articles are quite good and ranking in a CPC $2+ niche.

 

[SEOMadHatter]

It's been a long day. I didn't want to fall behind on my target so I wrote a bunch of content myself while having to cover some work on other projects but I also spent some time researching my writer issue.

I was reading through SEO blogs from people who are further ahead than I am and they're at the stage I want to be at - not writing the content themselves they're focusing on other areas of growth. One does this by paying like 0.12/word and another pays 0.03/word but spends more time with the hiring and training process.

The latter produces about 150 posts a month and very little of that requires editing. They were in the same boat spending 1-2 hours editing a piece of content and now it's a few minutes.

I'll be spending time editing by hand and using this time to continue to give writers feedback and see how that goes. Maybe it'll feel less frustrating if I know it's got a longer term payoff. I still want a couple more writers so I'll need to put in some work to improve the initial guidelines I give new writers as well.

I doubt it's going to be an overnight fix but it's good to know someone was facing the same problems and managed to get it to work out.

• Wrote 1k words for site 1.
• Wrote 2.2k words for site 2.
• Wrote 1.6k words for site 2.
• Spent some time coaching two of the writers. Sent them more work to see how they get on. Some of the work they turned in is looking better, that'll probably get published tomorrow.
• Got a batch of parasite content handed in and the parasite for site 1 is starting to build up some decent traffic. Put a few hours into improving things and I'll probably need to do a few more tomorrow if I can make the time. Worth it though since I know the parasites will bring in their own sales and some backlinks to help jumpstart the main site.

Spent today: $92.70

I totally agree that the rate is arbitrary.
It's all about the writing style and understanding the topic. Back then I ordered a lot of content from my writer and he was just shitting out the content for fun as I liked his writing style and he knew the topic (for $0.02. then I had to find somebody here for $0.08).
Most of the writers are "rubbish" sorry but it's true, they cut the corners and try to deliver as much content as possible.
Just put yourself in their shoes... to write the content similar to FT is very expensive and requires lots of research... but for the Sun... I can write myself.
I'll soon run out of content which I still have and I'm yet to find a decent writer who could come even close... can't afford to pay $0.08 per word as I need like 1 mil words of content extra.
And I need in-deapth content... not just content.

I don't know if I'd call it entirely arbitrary I know I'm not writing for someone at $0.03/word so you're more likely (not guaranteed) to get someone better at 0.08. It's just a scary prospect to double the site investment.

I completely agree most writers are... well, not great. As mentioned in the OP I don't blame them. Getting paid by word means getting paid more to fluff out content, not to spend time researching. The best answer I can think is to hire full time content writers and give them time to research and write. Given what I've been reading today though maybe there's hope at the 0.03 level.

Single site. I just hired a Philipinese guy to write for me. The articles are quite good and ranking in a CPC $2+ niche.

Did you completely outsource the content? I have a friend in Manilla who speaks better English than I do

 

[theRevolt]

It's been a long day. I didn't want to fall behind on my target so I wrote a bunch of content myself while having to cover some work on other projects but I also spent some time researching my writer issue.

I was reading through SEO blogs from people who are further ahead than I am and they're at the stage I want to be at - not writing the content themselves they're focusing on other areas of growth. One does this by paying like 0.12/word and another pays 0.03/word but spends more time with the hiring and training process.

The latter produces about 150 posts a month and very little of that requires editing. They were in the same boat spending 1-2 hours editing a piece of content and now it's a few minutes.

I'll be spending time editing by hand and using this time to continue to give writers feedback and see how that goes. Maybe it'll feel less frustrating if I know it's got a longer term payoff. I still want a couple more writers so I'll need to put in some work to improve the initial guidelines I give new writers as well.

I doubt it's going to be an overnight fix but it's good to know someone was facing the same problems and managed to get it to work out.

• Wrote 1k words for site 1.
• Wrote 2.2k words for site 2.
• Wrote 1.6k words for site 2.
• Spent some time coaching two of the writers. Sent them more work to see how they get on. Some of the work they turned in is looking better, that'll probably get published tomorrow.
• Got a batch of parasite content handed in and the parasite for site 1 is starting to build up some decent traffic. Put a few hours into improving things and I'll probably need to do a few more tomorrow if I can make the time. Worth it though since I know the parasites will bring in their own sales and some backlinks to help jumpstart the main site.

Spent today: $92.70

I don't know if I'd call it entirely arbitrary I know I'm not writing for someone at $0.03/word so you're more likely (not guaranteed) to get someone better at 0.08. It's just a scary prospect to double the site investment.

I completely agree most writers are... well, not great. As mentioned in the OP I don't blame them. Getting paid by word means getting paid more to fluff out content, not to spend time researching. The best answer I can think is to hire full time content writers and give them time to research and write. Given what I've been reading today though maybe there's hope at the 0.03 level.



Did you completely outsource the content? I have a friend in Manilla who speaks better English than I do

That's why when we use our content writer and I do the math I am like wtf... But then again it is just like you said. I mean read all the samples here and the one you provided here somewhere here is spot-on: Just a bunch of fluff and not saying anything. In the end factor in your opportunity cost based on what you would accomplish during that time.

Chances are it will put you pretty close to that "arbitrary rate". In general, it is just very hard as there is no standard for this, as some just overprice and under deliver and others that are new might be awesome but afraid to charge.
The best is a compromise of finding someone that enjoys the niche and thus naturally will write better content even if he/she may otherwise not be as good as the other writer.

I know easier said than done. Best of success.

 

[sabhan]

Could you please share where do you outsource outreach work for backlinks?

 

[SEOMadHatter]

That's why when we use our content writer and I do the math I am like wtf... But then again it is just like you said. I mean read all the samples here and the one you provided here somewhere here is spot-on: Just a bunch of fluff and not saying anything. In the end factor in your opportunity cost based on what you would accomplish during that time.

Chances are it will put you pretty close to that "arbitrary rate". In general, it is just very hard as there is no standard for this, as some just overprice and under deliver and others that are new might be awesome but afraid to charge.
The best is a compromise of finding someone that enjoys the niche and thus naturally will write better content even if he/she may otherwise not be as good as the other writer.

I know easier said than done. Best of success.

The arbitrary numbers were my goal of 100,000 words and $2k in links. I don't think the writer rate is entirely arbitrary as I wouldn't like to write at that price unless I had to. You could absolutely wind up with half the quality at double the price though.

Short term, the opportunity cost of this sucks. It's frustrating to lose so much time but if I find a handful of writers I like then it'll be worth it.

Could you please share where do you outsource outreach work for backlinks?

I've tried a couple of the bigger services before and there's nobody that's really stood out to me yet. I think I've mentioned before I got placed next to a link for 'fake nike' and a shit ton of the sites have no actual traffic. I liked the Hoth's marketing content and heard them on a podcast and they sounded like they knew their stuff. For $500 their guest posts are awful though. I'd probably rather have the fake nike links.

Most of my links are from a freelancer who's doing an alright-ish job. I'l need to come back in a while and go through all the links to see if there's anyone I actually like but I think I really want to get this done in-house. Cuts the price per link down and gets you more control over the quality.

 

[theRevolt]

The arbitrary numbers were my goal of 100,000 words and $2k in links. I don't think the writer rate is entirely arbitrary as I wouldn't like to write at that price unless I had to. You could absolutely wind up with half the quality at double the price though.

Short term, the opportunity cost of this sucks. It's frustrating to lose so much time but if I find a handful of writers I like then it'll be worth it.



I've tried a couple of the bigger services before and there's nobody that's really stood out to me yet. I think I've mentioned before I got placed next to a link for 'fake nike' and a shit ton of the sites have no actual traffic. I liked the Hoth's marketing content and heard them on a podcast and they sounded like they knew their stuff. For $500 their guest posts are awful though. I'd probably rather have the fake nike links.

Most of my links are from a freelancer who's doing an alright-ish job. I'l need to come back in a while and go through all the links to see if there's anyone I actually like but I think I really want to get this done in-house. Cuts the price per link down and gets you more control over the quality.

Def, the quality you are looking for requires certain language skills and thus a challenge. What I would say is that look at countries that are not US/GB/CA/AU which have English as the official language as you may actually get good content at the same/lower rate for crappy writers. I had a few before and the quality was actually really good for the price.

For guest posts etc. I think most platforms are just shit. Seeing the process for a client it is crazy tedious to find a great match that will also respond, but to be fair it is just for an infographic vs. post. However, most have pre selected sites they work with and thus you may end up with crappy links, or they obviously just cut corners on the content as well to make it worthwhile in $ terms for them.

 

[sabhan]

I can't agree more with you guys @theRevolt and @SEOMadHatter

Going in-house with backlinks work is the way to go. I am still looking for a course that teaches how to do outreach with new ways and tools. All I could find is SEO courses just giving brief overview of blogger outreach using tools like Mail Hunter/Ninja Outreach but not the complete process and latest tricks.

 

[Deleted member 657006]

You only need 1 website in good niche to make real money and bank hard.

It not qaunity it quality.

Stop racing 1 good project can bring thousands in monthly

You only do 1 at a time and you learn more to get more money next one .

Most heigh paid money on 5k/m backlinks can use x10 to master 1 niche .

Yes that 50k and yes @Meddie on here supply such users them links

If your serious earning 100k+ MONTHLY

 

[Deleted member 657006]

Day 1: Getting stuck in.

New projects are easy to be motivated about. Plus we had a good start.

Site 1 picked up a sale overnight from parasite traffic. It actually had 10 visitors between some organic (5), social (2) and parasite (3) traffic. Just a trickle but hopefully a taste of things to come.

• Wrote a 760-word page for site 1 myself. Short, but it was a dry topic and it still beats the competition.
• 1,500 words from a freelancer edited up to just over 2000 and posted to site 2.
• Wrote and published another 1,500-word article to site 2.
• Started trialing out a couple of new writers. I like to have a quick chat with them to see their writing skills when they're on the spot then I just give them work to do. Sent out 5,000 words due over the next couple of days.
• Ordered a dozen outreach links for each site. Mixed between branded links to the homepage and pointing at deep info pages. Further down the line the links will be more targetted to pages worth pushing but to get things started I just want a base level of links.
• Got a 1,000-word article from a writing service. Had to redo 90% of it and published at 1,500 words to site 2. Won't be using them again.
• Sent another 4,500 words to another writer.
• Edited and posted a 2,100-word article for site 2.

Spent today: $2,026.32

I would double that in a heartbeat if I had enough writers to give work to. I did consider giving some of the work to a content mill but it's sometimes quicker to write content from scratch than trying to edit some of the worse ones. Going slower to begin with and trying to find better writers is (hopefully) going to be worth it in the long run.

Today brought site 2 to almost 40,000 words with almost another 10,000 ordered. Pretty time consuming to edit through the lower quality content but hopefully, some of the new writers do well and can make up for that. It's good to get the ball rolling on the backlinks more and the sooner all the content is done the sooner I can move on to a new site which is more interesting to write about.




I've always had a theory (with absolutely nothing to back it up) that a custom theme might look better to Google. Makes you stand out as a site really trying, rather than another generic affiliate blog.

Just now I'll use generic themes like Avada but this is in the back of my mind.



Well, it remains to be seen whether I can actually manage it so here's hoping. Cheers.

Are you keeping up with seo in real world .

All keywords in today's seo need coresponding heigh backlinks of that keyword .

So if the keyword was fishing real, I'll need the best backlinks for fishing real .
We are talking real big names like
Television and top known websites backed to my website as a link .

You can only buy them no automation do them.

Where @Meddie comes in .

Seo changed heavy , your way very old even your content being so long old not needed no more old hat .

You just need proof of niche written info , can be 1 sentence or paragraph, to beat long 5k content , you need real powerful pr backlinks and social awareness of your website in your niche on web 2.0. To get on first page of google now days .

Proof writing and social awareness and powerful backlinks all needed in today's world of seo.

 

[Deleted member 657006]

Everyone must relize everyone at home now doing internet martketing.

Not easy no more .

You got children earning millions daily on games there mates using them for a back link .

As you can see the computation very heigh these days .

People like book writers and tv producers and top bods are doing websites, all well known names .


Your only chance is very heigh backlinks and getting in with youngsters in your niche for a free back link

Sorry how I see it ....

Social awernece so huge now


Seo very hard only takes one child youngster in your niche put a website out on google there be number 1 because of there social awernece very hard to beat them now days .

If your into seo need think out the box very hard all I am saying definitely need huge budget

 

[theRevolt]

Everyone must relize everyone at home now doing internet martketing.

Not easy no more .

You got children earning millions daily on games there mates using them for a back link .

As you can see the computation very heigh these days .

People like book writers and tv producers and top bods are doing websites, all well known names .


Your only chance is very heigh backlinks and getting in with youngsters in your niche for a free back link

Sorry how I see it ....

Social awernece so huge now


Seo very hard only takes one child youngster in your niche put a website out on google there be number 1 because of there social awernece very hard to beat them now days .

If your into seo need think out the box very hard all I am saying definitely need huge budget

All your posts make no sense. I know you don't speak from experience as I've seen all your posts.
You may want to check the ops other posts and see what he is really good at and that is automation and scaling,I doubt he needs general advice on oh you need backlinks and then twice tagging another member.

Either comment something useful be t not oh you need links oh you need budget lol tell me something that's not common sense.

 

[SEOMadHatter]

Decided to stop writing content myself, at least for a couple of days. I've been putting off two other projects for the last week because I wanted to hit my word count goals. This is short-term thinking because those projects can fund a whole bunch of sites.

Going to keep my focus on hiring, editing and training writers. I'll also have some work to do scaling up the parasites which are worth my time at the moment so I should be doing that more consistently.

I like writing content but it should be only when I have nothing more effective to be doing.

• Edited and published 3 x 2,000-word articles for site 2.
• Spent some time improving the writer training process and trialing out a new writer.

Site 2 has crossed the 60,000-word mark. I think it actually might be my biggest site in terms of word-count now. Certainly the record for the timeframe. It's also taken a bunch of page 2 results and a second page 1. The rankings aren't really going to be worth anything for many months but considering this niche is scary looking I'm glad to see it start well.

I've got a few more bits to finish this evening. If I can keep my eyelids open a while longer I might try and finish off the parasite work I started yesterday, the writer for that turned in a bulk of content and I'm doing some (light) editing. It's boring work but worth doing.

Def, the quality you are looking for requires certain language skills and thus a challenge. What I would say is that look at countries that are not US/GB/CA/AU which have English as the official language as you may actually get good content at the same/lower rate for crappy writers. I had a few before and the quality was actually really good for the price.

For guest posts etc. I think most platforms are just shit. Seeing the process for a client it is crazy tedious to find a great match that will also respond, but to be fair it is just for an infographic vs. post. However, most have pre selected sites they work with and thus you may end up with crappy links, or they obviously just cut corners on the content as well to make it worthwhile in $ terms for them.

Absolutely agree. One of my better writers just now is from India and I've dropped a couple of writers from the US/UK/CA recently. Just because they're native in the language doesn't mean they can actually write. I do know some who will only hire from the US for cultural reasons because that does show in the writing but I haven't decided one way or the other yet.

I completely get that they're cashing in on the move towards guest posts and edits. I expected the Hoth ones to be big margins for them. What I didn't expect is just how shitty the links would be.

I can't agree more with you guys @theRevolt and @SEOMadHatter

Going in-house with backlinks work is the way to go. I am still looking for a course that teaches how to do outreach with new ways and tools. All I could find is SEO courses just giving brief overview of blogger outreach using tools like Mail Hunter/Ninja Outreach but not the complete process and latest tricks.

I was actually thinking of running that as a separate case study comparing what it takes and what kind of results I get vs what it would have cost to use a service. I think it's going to have to wait until my time on content dies down though since that's moving the needle a lot more than links are at the moment.

I know a few people who have done it for a while I might see if I can bend their ear but maybe just looking at the outreach emails is another way to go. See the kind of things people are trying.

You only need 1 website in good niche to make real money and bank hard.

It not qaunity it guilty.

Stop racing 1 good project can bring thousands in monthly

I appreciate the advice but I prefer to do it this way for a couple of reasons:

• The sooner I start a domain the sooner the domain starts to age and links can start dripping in.
• Writers can be split between different sites and get more time within a niche to produce better content.
• It's the best way to find easy win niches with fast rankings and unexpected profit number.

I already have projects bringing in thousands monthly. Adding one site doesn't interest me nearly as much as the prospect of figuring out how to scale this model properly.

I completely admit I'm impatient and maybe I'd be further ahead in life if I just focused on one thing at a time but forget one site, I can't even do one project at a time. Just not wired that way.

Good luck, great journey so far.

Cheers

Are you keeping up with seo in real world .

All keywords in today's seo need coresponding heigh backlinks of that keyword .

So if the keyword was fishing real, I'll need the best backlinks for fishing real .
We are talking real big names like
Television and top known websites backed to my website as a link .

You can only buy them no automation do them.

Where @Meddie comes in .

Seo changed heavy , your way very old even your content being so long old not needed no more old hat .

Sorry, not entirely sure I'm following. I need backlinks and shouldn't automate them?

The post you quoted actually mentions the links that day are from outreach. I do use a lot of automation in my projects generally but I'm not building crappy GSA links if that's what you're thinking. Haven't built that kind of link in years.

Everyone must relize everyone at home now doing internet matketing.
Not easy no more .

You got children earning millions daily on games there mates using them for a link .

As you can see the computation very heigh these days .

People like book writers and tv producers and top bods are doing websites now well known names .

Your only chance is very heigh backlinks and getting in with youngsters in your niche for a free back link

Sorry how I see it ....

Maybe if I focused on one site and got a shit ton of links this would work out better. To be clear this is not a guide on how to do SEO, it's just what I see working and I think it's lower variance than spending more on links and chasing more competitive terms.

My budget for each site is roughly $3-4k in content and $2k in backlinks. I'm chasing a whole pile of longtails with that content and the backlinks are just scattered in so the domain has something to get it started.

If the sites show growth then I'll loop back at a later date to build more links and content.

 

[theRevolt]

Absolutely agree. One of my better writers just now is from India and I've dropped a couple of writers from the US/UK/CA recently. Just because they're native in the language doesn't mean they can actually write. I do know some who will only hire from the US for cultural reasons because that does show in the writing but I haven't decided one way or the other yet.

I completely get that they're cashing in on the move towards guest posts and edits. I expected the Hoth ones to be big margins for them. What I didn't expect is just how shitty the links would be.

Yep for sure. A native speaker can actually be much worse. Look at the educational systems in those other countries and you can see why often you can hit the jackpot. Of course same trial and error, but I find the jackpot here looks better than for the other approach as you may find someone great but will also pay an arm and a leg.

Best of success.

 

[SEOMadHatter]

We're finishing today with some good news.

• Site 1 made sale #4 from organic traffic and it took 4 spots on the first page.
• Parasite traffic is growing faster than expected in these niches. It's still be months before it's making any real numbers but it's a good sign for the niches.
• I got a little taste of what decent content outsourcing can feel like (more on that).

Obviously site 1 is still on a sliver of traffic, the conversion rate has just been really good for the drips it's getting from random longtails and a little drip of parasite traffic. Still really motivating. Seeing new projects sell is way more fun than existing ones.

The work I did yesterday on improving the writer onboarding and training should have been done two weeks ago. It cleared up so much time giving writers feedback today and I've got 4 or 5 new writers trailing today so we're working on getting things going.

Today was also the first time I got over 3k words up in less than 5 minutes of work. Two submissions from the writers was already good enough to post. Actually took some time off in the afternoon and enjoyed the sun.

I put a little bit of work into figuring out a better process for producing the YouTube channels for this. It's something I really want to get started sooner rather than later but the current priority plan is looking like:

1. Written content
2. Parasite content
3. Social
4. Video content

I think the video content could actually move the needle more than the work I'm doing on social just now (which isn't much) but it'll also take a whole bunch of time. The parasite content is probably going to bring revenue the soonest and the written content is obviously the priority.

I've scaled up a bunch of the parasite side of things today and outsourced some more of it. If I get a few more writers like the content handed in today I should be able to start the YouTube channels in a week or two.

Updates:

• Published 1,700 words to site 2 from a writer. No editing at all.
• Published another 1,800 words to site 2 from a writer. Took 5 minutes to edit.
• Wrote 1,000 words for site 1. Not because I had to but I was sitting in the sun with a laptop and felt like it.
• Went over the trial with a good couple of new writers.
• Outsourced a bunch more of the parasite work. I've a little more work to do on this tomorrow but the bulk of it is now done.

Spent today:
$328.65

We're probably going to hit the 70,000 word point for site 2 tomorrow. I actually need to decide if my arbitrary stopping point is going to be 100,000 words or 100 posts. In my head it was both but the majority of the content is above 1,000 words. 100 posts means more keywords being intentionally targetted so a better test of how viable the niche is so I might keep pushing it until 100 posts - especially if I can keep my editing time down to 5 minutes a day.

I'm going to start putting some of the writing time into site 1 though. It's looking like a really good potential niche I should focus on it more.

Yep for sure. A native speaker can actually be much worse. Look at the educational systems in those other countries and you can see why often you can hit the jackpot. Of course same trial and error, but I find the jackpot here looks better than for the other approach as you may find someone great but will also pay an arm and a leg.

Best of success.

This makes a lot of sense and certainly seems to be what happened today. Two jackpot submissions from Asia and Eastern Europe while at the same time it was a UK writer who skipped the training doc I'd provided and asked some really daft questions.

It pretty much went: "Oh the word count is 2,000? Does that mean I include a photo of my breakfast?" It really was that kind of disjointed logic.

 

[ALMAESTRO010]

Good luck bro
What parasite do you use?

 

[SEOMadHatter]

Wasn't working much today but I got a little done and I think I'm making a few broader changes.

Let's start with the simple stuff today:

• 1,200 words edited and published to site 1.
• Another 1,200 words for site 1. Took a while to edit this one.
• 1,700 words published to site 2. Took less than 60 seconds to edit and publish with this writer.

Unsurprisingly, the writer who didn't read the training page and asked the daft questions turned in some pretty crap work. Writing style wasn't too bad but the content was just full of daft shit. Not worth the time to edit. Still a couple more to hand in a trial piece over the next couple of days.

Spoke a writer I've worked with on a different project. They're familiar with one or two of the niches and they can write pretty well. I suspect I'll need to go through some feedback to get them to match the kind of thing I'm doing now but if they're able to take the feedback onboard that should be another 5k words a week from them.

That's pretty much it for the day to day. On the wider scale I'm thinking of making two changes.

Firstly, I've been using spreadsheets and post-it notes to try and keep everything in order. Content is slipping between the cracks and going up slower than it should. Much slower. I've been looking at Clickup or something as a way of trying to manage things. I'll need to see if there's an easy way to track the blog content, parasite, video and social for each keyword without having to copy and paste the same keyword in to multiple lists.

The bigger change is I'm considering starting more sites sooner than expected - for two reasons:

1. I ran a parasite test a few weeks back for a niche I wasn't sure about. 9/10 of them all took the #1 spot for their keywords. Doesn't necessarily mean a fresh domain will be able to compete some niches just love parasites but I really want to try that niche.
2. The sooner I start these sites the sooner the domains can get through the sandbox.

I don't want to work on too many sites at once because I'd get spread too thin but getting 2-3 writers per site who can actually write about that niche doesn't take more than a few minutes to manage. It won't reach 100 posts on a single site per month like that but it'll still probably grow faster.

Plus 2-3 writers building up a site over an extra month or two is likely going to make better quality content rather than 10 writers trying to do it in a single month. Haven't fully decided yet but I'm pretty sure I can handle at least 2 more sites without the workload being much of a pain if I keep trialing writers and looking for the good ones like this.

Lastly, I've been really keen to start getting into YouTube properly. With the content editing getting easier I should start getting more time available for it. I've found an example channel I think I can clone and spoke to a freelancer about getting things started for me.

Good luck bro
What parasite do you use?

Depends on the niche I tend to look and see what competitors are ranking. Right now Pinterest is killing it, the CTR is pretty shit but that doesn't matter so much when the content is easy to produce.

 

[SEOMadHatter]

Just when you thought Sunday was the day of rest.

A whole bunch of updates:

• Started sites 3 and 4.
• 1,000 words to site 1.
• 1,6000 words to site 1.
• 2,000 words to site 1.
• 1,600 words to site 2.
• 1,700 words to site 2.
• 2,100 words to site 2.
• Trialing a whole bunch of new writers. We have a couple now producing some good work.
• Moving the whole project management over to Clickup.

Spend today: $563

The New Sites

The focus is still going to be getting sites 1 and 2 to 100 posts each and doing more parasite/video. I'm starting these sites as slower burns. They won't take much of my time and I'd like to get them started sooner rather than later.

Site 3: It'll either be affiliate or reselling. The domain is a few weeks old but the content is starting from scratch. It's an expensive niche to run paid ads in and there's certainly competition for the SEO but there are a lot of longtails.

Ran a brief test with parasites a while back and a big stack of them are sitting in #1 with a more recent set slowly growing. Working on finding a writer for this one. It's a weird niche to research for so might take a bit to find someone decent.

This site is a bit of a gamble. I've made a couple of sales from the parasite traffic so far but it's not been the most profitable. I think it'll require some real testing to get it to convert and it remains to be seen whether my domain will rank.

That said this is a big niche, very social friendly and if the gamble pays off it could be a big earner. Keen to find out.

Site 4: Site 4 will be pretty boring. Digital affiliate sales on a fresh domain a few weeks old. This is a niche I know well and it'll make a decent return but I probably won't be doing social or video for it.

It can be a pain to get content for but I know one or two writers who know the topic well enough. I've got one on board and we'll aim for around 10k words a week and just let it build up in the background.


The New Writers

I currently have 3-4 writers who don't require much or any editing and 5-6 new ones starting out so I'll see how they go. I'm waiting for about 30-35,000 words so I should be able to hit the goal of 100k words a month perhaps a little easier than expected.

I'm going to take my foot off the gas a little with the hiring for the moment so I can make sure I can handle this amount then I'd probably like to expand a little more towards 150k. I like keeping writers for specific sites so they get time with the niche but between 4 sites I could probably squeeze some more in.

The New Management

I have roughly 12,000 words of money site content and roughly 75 pages of parasite content which I'd lost track off. They'll be going up this week.

The only reason I even found them is I started to move some projects over to Clickup. It's a complete mess being halfway between two systems so I'll need to give it some real time tomorrow to tidy things up but I think this will be a lot more efficient.

Plus, as a benefit, if things do go well it'll be a lot easier to get an editor/content manager working within Clickup than my excuse for project management.