What's wrong with people from 2nd/3rd tier countries ?
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English not a first language and no money. This makes it hard to bootstrap.
If I lost everything, including all my SEO knowledge I could go and write for $3/100 and get enough work pretty quickly to have 5k words a day. 7 days a week that would give me $1k/week. You can live in the UK for $250/week quite easily. Plus here you can just get benefits and hide the online money so you could take $100/week from that money + benefits and save $900-$950/week. Slaving away for 3 months like that and I'd have $12k put by.
Reduce my hours to 1/3 and I'm still making $300/week. I've then got $12k cash to invest + $200/week continuous money. I can go and grab ahrefs, write content for a site, buy pbns, make a course, sell ads. Tons of options.
Even if someone is really lazy and just works in mcdonalds they're still going to make $1500/month and if they keep their expenses down they'll have $500/month cash for things.
If you're in a country where $10/day is a lot, then that means you're going to struggle to make $10/day or $300 in an offline job. Then what's your living expenses? $200-$250/mo? Doesn't give you much to play with.
And everything is in English. This makes it even harder. Harder to get on affliate networks, harder to make sales pages, harder to do videos, harder to sell on the phone. Everything is 100x harder. We have it easy in the UK/US/CA/AU etc.
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I got what you meant, I just disagreed that people in 3rd world countries need to only aim at making $10/day.
I actually live by the idea I was talking about. Cutting out small-minded goals to try to only aim at opportunities that will maximise returns on time and investment.
But we're not talking about $1,000 per day which is is significant amount to anyone. We're talking about $100, which many people from 3rd world countries doing IM earn. It's a realistic goal even if you don't believe it is. However I would agree that $1,000 might be quite an unrealistic goal for most people.
And so the wheels keep spinning and people keep posting about not being able to earn $10/per day. But you're right, trying to think in a different way surely couldn't be a potential solution.
At least you're getting the picture now that it's simply a shift in perspective to acknowledge that others are making ten times more.
Your first thought is "there's no way I could earn that".. my first thought is "what are those guys doing to earn $1,000"?
I didn't realise it was an argument tbh, and not sure why you feel threatened by my last post that was just passing my thoughts about this.
For the record though, if you want to live whatever life you want to live and earn $0.50 a day if you want, no problem, have at it. My opinions are just that - opinions. You can completely disregard them without me losing a second of sleep.
They would be right and like I mentioned already, you should be asking them questions to try to emulate them, not starting with self-defeating judgements.
No it's all about your mindset.
It's why people in wheelchairs with crippling diseases achieve more than the children of hedge fund managers that are born with ultimate wealth. Mentality, and more specifically, the mentality of asking the right questions and overcoming the obstacles other people accept is what it's all about.
If you see the world through the lens of "reality" and "what is possible given the situation" then go for it. I prefer to look at things a different way, as I've explained above.
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Sweden, Germany and France are Tier 1.
For me Tier 2 are countries like: Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria, Mexico, Romania, Poland
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Romania and Poland are closer to being a Tier 1 country than a Tier 2.
Wrath Of God
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This is absolutely true
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Speak for yourself mate. 
This is what I mean. Different companies will have their own rules but there seems to be no consensus on what counts as Tier 2
It's crazy how some people believe that anything related to investment is the issue or reason not to progress.
I personally know few Tier 3 guys who made millions in CPA only, no jokes. One is my IRL friend. They're all from One county only.
I made my 1st bucks (high earnings) with free traffic. I invested in one software only to automate a bit and some accounts.
I've made that investment because I knew what I was doing, it was about scaling at that point.
This is from person to person, no matter of Tier's, even 2-3 could only be more motivated and do more in life, but also they can quit after 1st failure.
It is so individual and this thread OP is a nonsense.
I personally know few Tier 3 guys who made millions in CPA only, no jokes. One is my IRL friend. They're all from One county only.
I made my 1st bucks (high earnings) with free traffic. I invested in one software only to automate a bit and some accounts.
I've made that investment because I knew what I was doing, it was about scaling at that point.
This is from person to person, no matter of Tier's, even 2-3 could only be more motivated and do more in life, but also they can quit after 1st failure.
It is so individual and this thread OP is a nonsense.
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Well, id like to put in my 2 cents.
Ive seen Americans in particular do things online, and the way they do it is just superior. The level of action and professionalism is on another level. Not all of course, but there is something to it. And of course the monetary ability and willingness to invest and do things is higher.
The other thing is that first worlders will always have it a bit easier. They can use all payment processors, all websites, all programs. On many websites their accounts will last longer and be safer and perhaps be more likely to rank for a better audience.
People in first world countries wanna find customers that need articles and hire 3rd worlders to write them. People in 3rd world countries want to write articles
These are broad generalizations of course, but there you go.
Ive seen Americans in particular do things online, and the way they do it is just superior. The level of action and professionalism is on another level. Not all of course, but there is something to it. And of course the monetary ability and willingness to invest and do things is higher.
The other thing is that first worlders will always have it a bit easier. They can use all payment processors, all websites, all programs. On many websites their accounts will last longer and be safer and perhaps be more likely to rank for a better audience.
People in first world countries wanna find customers that need articles and hire 3rd worlders to write them. People in 3rd world countries want to write articles
These are broad generalizations of course, but there you go.
I, too, believe this to be the main reason:
That being said, focus on how you can, instead of why you cannot.
You have a few choices:
- Work hard (and smart) and overcome your limitations
- Be creative and overcome your limitations
- Partner with someone who has the ability to smash those limitations out of the way
- Integrity: if you say you will give 30% to your partner, do not short change him later.
- Great work ethic: If you say you deliver something, you gotta deliver.
- Self-belief: It does matter, when you go through rough phases. There will be rough phases.
Assuming you are treating BHW as your primary source, I see that you still haven't gone blue.
If you need to sell here, you need to be blue. You need $97. Why haven't you worked towards that?
Maybe that's not your intention, but let us take that as a case study.
Let us see how you can get that $97.
Option 1: Hard work
Register a Fiverr account. Look at the most popular services offered there. Pick one that you know well enough. Make your copy better than yours. Offer more than what they offer.
I don't know their commission rates, but a Google search shows it is around 20%. So, around 35 gigs @ $5 will get you more than $127.
Use that money, upgrade to blue. Look at existing services, offer a better one - preferably the one you offered on Fiverr. Open a BST by paying $30.
Option 2: Creativity
a) Sell offline or online whatever physical goods and stuff you have to raise $127. Flea markets. eBay. Classifieds. The world is thine oyster.
b) Offer someone your signature space for a year, in return for your Jr VIP membership. Show them this thread, and guarantee them you will post more such threads which spark discussion throughout the year.
Next up, ask them if they can give $30 needed for your BST thread. Offer your services in return.
Option 3: Partnership
Get a partner. Offer them 15-25% your profits for the first year, in return for sponsoring your membership and BST thread.
Important note: Do not violate any BHW rules.
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1st world's people don't care money they have backup and enough support socially and financially.
2nd and 3rd world's still they don't have enough money for living, so no way to invest in any project also they don't have any backup support from any financial source, so they afraid to invest and that keeping them poor.
2nd and 3rd world's still they don't have enough money for living, so no way to invest in any project also they don't have any backup support from any financial source, so they afraid to invest and that keeping them poor.
MgicalaEarner
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Well, many of them come to Germany to work in a factory for a very low salary. It might be true if you talk about the capital cities, but in rural areas there is lots of poverty. I was driving through Romania a few years ago and it some cities and villages they didn't have roads and they were riding on donkeys. No kidding mate
joseph15
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Yeah, definitely closer to tier 2 than tier 1. Tier 1 countries don't have that level of poverty/corruption/poor infrastructure etc.
Crimemastergogo
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My advice to OP:
Settle down, take a deep breath, say, "All is well"
Settle down, take a deep breath, say, "All is well"
YujinTan
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I feel is all boils down to individual needs, just like your comment, surely others comments likewise from you whereas some agreed with you.
Just like buying a car , you got a Merc but feel is common wanna get a roll Royce better etc
even come smoking, not all cigrattee the same and price the same, some better , some sucks
I feel is about contended .
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Described it well.